England World Cup Discussion

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Kane was garbage by the way. Slow, clumsy and his incessant attempts to gain free kicks and complaining are getting right on my fecking nerves.
 
No chance.

Argentina would be the first side England have played who on paper are at least as good if not better than them. They've been limping along so far but they've got quality and depth, it would be a proper 50/50 game.

People might as well start planning their world cup final parties if Switzerland win tonight.
I tend to agree but it’s more the occasion, the emotion and the accumulation of fatigue that will be the issue with Argentina, less so the quality. The atmosphere will be super charged.

I still think France or Spain will win the tournament regardless.
 
Kane was garbage by the way. Slow, clumsy and his incessant attempts to gain free kicks and complaining are getting right on my fecking nerves.

It's probably harsh because he's scored loads for England but his general performances at tournaments for England are never particularly very good.

He always fades badly as it goes on.
 
No chance.

Argentina would be the first side England have played who on paper are at least as good if not better than them. They've been limping along so far but they've got quality and depth, it would be a proper 50/50 game.

People might as well start planning their world cup final parties if Switzerland win tonight.

Agreed entirely here, we'll be comfortable favourites over Switzerland, and in my lifetimes, forget this generation, Iceland aside.... that's more or less never been the issue, sure we've continually made it look brutally hard, but they pretty much always get over the line in those games in the knockouts (ignore dodgy group games). I think you can go back before my lifetime too... it's always bigger nations or 50/50 games we stumble.

But we made Odegaard look closer to his peak than he had any right to today... so I'm assuming Enzo and Macallister will probably dictate the game more ... therefore it's a case of Jude and Kane outperforming Messi and whoever he's with, because both defensives are a bit suspect to say the least. But I'm hardly scared of Argentina.... I'm thankful to avoid one of Spain or France instead of having to go through both, one off, in a final? Who knows, maybe it's our time, even as the clear underdog to either. It's like the Tennis big 4 and the other 3 hoping to get Murray in the semi's or some shit.
 
On the bright side, England advanced without any meaningful contribution from Kane tonight. That will have to change if they go any further.
 
I tend to agree but it’s more the occasion, the emotion and the accumulation of fatigue that will be the issue with Argentina, less so the quality. The atmosphere will be super charged.

I still think France or Spain will win the tournament regardless.

If they win comfortably tonight I'd have them as slight favourites against England. If they go to extra time again then I fancy England to do it.

Argentina need to wrap it up in 90.
 
France haven't conceded since the group stages.

This England backline will concede 2-3 against elite attack. Would've happened today but for VAR overrule.

Yeh despite Haaland being a complete non entity all game England look very vulnerable at the back.
 
On the bright side, England advanced without any meaningful contribution from Kane tonight. That will have to change if they go any further.

Bench Kane, bolster the midfield and just let Jude takeover!
 
Based on that performance in that heat I think Brazil would have won …but doesn’t matter now.

I think the only issues we'd have had with Brazil is the fact it's the name Brazil and we've historically really struggled against them, and they'd have probably dealt with the heat better.

Other than that I think England are just a better side than Brazil and I think we'd have beaten them. Probably in a better style than tonight vs Norway.
 
I think Argentinas defense has been incredibly shaky and I could see Saka and Bellingham causing some real trouble.
Swiss will be a physical and tiring slog.

Either way hope England go all the way
They’d be some real Simeone style s**thousery from them, and if FIFA throw in another dodgy ref to officiate it, then it could be a massive disadvantage for us. I hope I’m wrong.
 
No chance.

Argentina would be the first side England have played who on paper are at least as good if not better than them. They've been limping along so far but they've got quality and depth, it would be a proper 50/50 game.

People might as well start planning their world cup final parties if Switzerland win tonight.
We better hope Switzerland best Argentina. England has never beaten a team in the knockout stages who were considered equal or better than them.
 
They’d be some real Simeone style s**thousery from them, and if FIFA throw in another dodgy ref to officiate it, then it could be a massive disadvantage for us. I hope I’m wrong.

But who will be the favoured ones???
 
I think the only issues we'd have had with Brazil is the fact it's the name Brazil and we've historically really struggled against them, and they'd have probably dealt with the heat better.

Other than that I think England are just a better side than Brazil and I think we'd have beaten them. Probably in a better style than tonight vs Norway.
Agree England are a better side than Brazil, just think Brazil would have had an edge in that heat.
 
Enjoying it while it lasts because there's no chance anyone but France is winning this.
The other semi definitely feels like the unofficial final but I'd love to at least get the chance to get revenge and send Argentina home
 
I think the only issues we'd have had with Brazil is the fact it's the name Brazil and we've historically really struggled against them, and they'd have probably dealt with the heat better.

Other than that I think England are just a better side than Brazil and I think we'd have beaten them. Probably in a better style than tonight vs Norway.
Brazil kind of reminds me of the Liverpool of international football. Massively Respected by the media for their past but quite often fail to get past the second round in latter tournaments.
 
France licking their lips. A cake walk to the trophy after witnessing England, Argentina and Spain performances.
 
Agree England are a better side than Brazil, just think Brazil would have had an edge in that heat.
Not if they played Casemiro. Him, and most of the team, to be fair, looked so slow in the majority of their games.
 
Agreed entirely here, we'll be comfortable favourites over Switzerland, and in my lifetimes, forget this generation, Iceland aside.... that's more or less never been the issue, sure we've continually made it look brutally hard, but they pretty much always get over the line in those games in the knockouts (ignore dodgy group games). I think you can go back before my lifetime too... it's always bigger nations or 50/50 games we stumble.

But we made Odegaard look closer to his peak than he had any right to today... so I'm assuming Enzo and Macallister will probably dictate the game more ... therefore it's a case of Jude and Kane outperforming Messi and whoever he's with, because both defensives are a bit suspect to say the least. But I'm hardly scared of Argentina.... I'm thankful to avoid one of Spain or France instead of having to go through both, one off, in a final? Who knows, maybe it's our time, even as the clear underdog to either. It's like the Tennis big 4 and the other 3 hoping to get Murray in the semi's or some shit.
Not sure, but if we’re using tennis as an analogy to our chances, then I’d say we’re more like Henman than Murray against these big three.
 
France licking their lips. A cake walk to the trophy after witnessing England, Argentina and Spain performances.
Actually think complacency and the fact they've not got out of 2nd gear all tournament might work against them.
 
If Argentina do get through(which is likely), we are done. This team looks shot
Argentina haven't looked much better and are old, don't let the Messi magic fool you.

This is a very beatable Argentina side, I expect the Swiss to push them just as everyone else has in the knockouts
 
Messi can't do it every game. He's 39
 
Argentina haven't looked much better and are old, don't let the Messi magic fool.

This is a very beatable Argentina side, I expect the Swiss to push them just as everyone else has in the knockouts

Argentina have looked tired this tournament too.

They have, but Messi. Even at his twilight I can't see our defenders being switched on enough.
 
I tend to agree but it’s more the occasion, the emotion and the accumulation of fatigue that will be the issue with Argentina, less so the quality. The atmosphere will be super charged.

I still think France or Spain will win the tournament regardless.
I think Tuchel is just mad enough to pull this off.
 
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