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We've had 30 years of the Premier league and not once has it been won by an English manager. Will it ever? They all can't be that poor can they?

In the 1980s you had the likes of Joe Fagen, Tony Barton, Brian Clough and Bob Paisley winning European cups, infact it was won by an English manager in six consecutive seasons.

Bobby Robson and Terry Venables both Managed Barcelona. Could you imagine an English manager ever being appointed now? Sadly I can't see one of the big clubs appointing an english manager again.
 

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Think about how stupid you must be to post this on a United forum and completely forget SAF. Please take the bait. Please take the bait
 

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Could you imagine an English manager ever being appointed now? Sadly I can't see one of the big clubs appointing an english manager again.
Liverpool will and it will be very funny.
 

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Unfortunately the money killed this aspect for them.

The risks are too much so no one will take the risk to appoint an English manager and so they have languished.
Don't see it changing soon, their prospects look grim.
 

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When one is good enough, one will be appointed. Graeme Potter the pick of the bunch right now. He has the potential to coach a top 6/7 club if he continues his trajectory. At some point the right talent and right circumstances will emerge.
 

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Eddie Howe is managing Newcastle and someone will take a punt on Potter sooner or later.
 

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The sheer number of English managers trying to copy Pep seems like it will help, even if they don't end up coaching that similarly.

Am I wrong to say that Hodgson and Allardyce are the best English managers since Bobby Robson? Neither had a possession friendly style that suited big teams, so got few opportunities. Whoever emerges from the current crop should get more opportunities at big clubs and for the national team.
 

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English managers should start going over to Germany and learning a thing or two about high pressing football, as that's the way the game is heading. Capello has been giving the same advice to Italian managers.
 

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No. An English manager will never win the EPL. Unless there's a complete reset and English football runs out of money.

Even before the introduction of the Premier League, Dalglish (Scottish) and Graham (Scottish) dominated 5 out of 6 seasons in the old First Division.

An English manager has never won the EPL and there hasn't been an English winner of the top league in England for 30 years, which must be some sort of a record.

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14 x Scottish (Dalglish and Ferguson)

4 x Italy (Mancini, Ancelotti, Conte and Ranieri)

4 x Spain (Guardiola)

3 x French (Wenger)

3 x Portuguese (Mourinho)

1 x Chile (Pellegrini)

1 x Germany (Klopp)
 
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That’s a crazy stat, and one I wasn’t actually aware of.

I imagine you’d be hard pushed to find another national league with a stat like that.
 

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Feels like we have this thread once a month. You could at least spice it up a bit with a confrontational title.

English managers should start going over to Germany and learning a thing or two about high pressing football, as that's the way the game is heading. Capello has been giving the same advice to Italian managers.
That would require German clubs to be willing to hire English coaches. People always seem to forget in these threads that you usually have to speak the local language of the club you want to join.
 

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Looks like Potter is the best English manager, he has done very good job at Brighton.

Also English coaches should work outside UK to equip themselves better, McClaren said he was surprised by how detail oriented ETH was and he was a rookie coach if I'm not wrong.

Only Potter is worth taking risk, others are just not good enough.
 

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Potter and Howe seem the best of the current crop. Potter the likeliest of those two to win a title, wouldn't shock me if City/Liverpool went for him when Pep/Klopp leaves.
 

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EPL would have to run out of money for English clubs to give a chance to english managers.

EPL clubs have so much money that they just throw money at experienced continental managers(cause it's the safer option), rather than take the risk and give the chance to a young english manager.
 

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EPL would have to run out of money for English clubs to give a chance to english managers.

EPL clubs have so much money that they just throw money at experienced continental managers(cause it's the safer option), rather than take the risk and give the chance to a young english manager.
 

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Lampard had the biggest chance any English manager is going to get for the foreseeable, and he balls'd it up. Blame him.
 

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People complaining that English managers don't get a "chance" is quite funny.
You get a chance if you're good enough or not. And let's be honest, just like most English players, the managers are overrated, expensive trash anyway. I'm sorry it sounds harsh, but that's the only reason they don't get a go at it, they're just piss poor.
You can't say "they don't get chances" when none of them actually did anything notable for 30 years.
 
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Potter is the big hope isn’t he. And he learnt his trade away from England.
early days yet but Rooney shows potential at least at that level. Be interesting to see how he develops
 

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The league has the most money and operates in a language that everyone is kind of able to speak, it is a massively attractive destination for the best managers all over the world.
That's why, as they have to compete with the best from everywhere, the competition for English managers is extra tough.
Combine that with the fact that English managers have just not been that great (not surprisingly since the country's ideology has been based on individualism since the 80s .."there's no such thing as society") it's not hard to see why they would have had a hard time being relevant.
 

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Lampard had the biggest chance any English manager is going to get for the foreseeable, and he balls'd it up. Blame him.
At Chelsea even pep and klopp wouldn't survive their respective first seasons for city and liverpool under roman. Lampard is still learning. It's too soon for him. He will get another opportunity in big club in few years time.

You should never forget lampard for saving Everton from their relegation. Nobody gave him a chance with their fixture when he took over.

He won two matches to make them safe against united and chelsea. He also should have earned a draw from Liverpool and city too. He didn't do that badly in all his short managerial career in my opinion.
 

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At Chelsea even pep and klopp wouldn't survive their respective first seasons for city and liverpool under roman. Lampard is still learning. It's too soon for him. He will get another opportunity in big club in few years time.

You should never forget lampard for saving Everton from their relegation. Nobody gave him a chance with their fixture when he took over.

He won two matches to make them safe against united and chelsea. He also should have earned a draw from Liverpool and city too. He didn't do that badly in all his short managerial career in my opinion.
That's laughably wrong and a case of blatantly moving the goal posts. Now we're supposed to applaud the guy for not fecking relegating Everton? :lol: