Eric Bailly image 3

Eric Bailly Ivory Coast flag

2018-19 Performances


View full 2018-19 profile

5.1 Season Average Rating
Appearances
18
Clean sheets
4
Goals
0
Assists
0
Yellow cards
1
Red cards
1
Status
Not open for further replies.

Loublaze

ATLien
Joined
Aug 30, 2009
Messages
16,593
Smalling said he prefers to play with Lindelof. Most likely because he doesn’t have to play on the left.
Shows you how limited Smalling is then, i rather we play Bailly and Smalling just have to play there.
How could i know?

Either he said himself that he prefers the right like Smalling (but he has not gone out in the Public saying that). Or Mourinho wants him to play there.
It might be true that Smalling prefers to play on the right but AlexUtd you're treating it as if it's gospel truth. Smalling has not come out in public saying he prefers to play on the right or that he has a preference to play with Lindelof (Scholes said this on tv though, about Smalling preferring Lindelof based on a private conversation they had).
 

simplyared

Full Member
Joined
Nov 29, 2017
Messages
4,378
Location
somewhere ouside the UK
Must be given a run now from start. Must be allowed to settle in and he'll come good. Hope he stears clear of injuries as that seems to be a problem with him. Reminds me of Andy Cole with his physique. Both true athletes. Maybe Lukaku can take a lesson in how you should prepare yourself.
 

0le

Full Member
Joined
Dec 25, 2017
Messages
5,806
Location
UK
I haven't been able to watch United as much recently. I remember when he first arrived I was concerned with his aerial ability. Has this improved?
 

Mcking

Full Member
Joined
Jun 27, 2017
Messages
6,015
Location
Nigeria
Must be given a run now from start. Must be allowed to settle in and he'll come good. Hope he stears clear of injuries as that seems to be a problem with him. Reminds me of Andy Cole with his physique. Both true athletes. Maybe Lukaku can take a lesson in how you should prepare yourself.
He could have started against Fulham if only he didn't decide to go back to his favourite hunting ground and I don't really expect him to stay out of there anytime soon. Even he he manages to, then he'd still have Smalling and Jones in his way because he can't and won't be starting ahead of center backs that are superior to him.
 

Adnan

Talent Spotter
Joined
Oct 5, 2013
Messages
29,885
Location
England
I haven't been able to watch United as much recently. I remember when he first arrived I was concerned with his aerial ability. Has this improved?
He's been frozen out of the squad for a while now, so it's hard to say..
 

11101

Full Member
Joined
Aug 26, 2014
Messages
21,281
I haven't been able to watch United as much recently. I remember when he first arrived I was concerned with his aerial ability. Has this improved?
Truth be told he's pretty much the same as he was when he arrived. Injuries and a couple of horror shows have kept him from getting a consistent run in the team.
 

SATA

Full Member
Joined
Nov 8, 2005
Messages
15,204
Location
We all love United
He's going to be a great defender, he really has it in him. Give him time to mature, iron out his mistakes and he is going to be our Koulibaly in a couple of years, i am absolutely convinced
 
Valencia 2:1 Man Utd

Snow

Somewhere down the lane, a licky boom boom down
Joined
Jul 10, 2007
Messages
33,317
Location
Lousy Smarch weather
No doubting his ability, just hope his defensive IQ improves.
It's so bad. Every game there's a player through on goal because of a mistake from him. Just look at his defensive work for the Jones OG. What a mess that was.

I think he's comfortably the worst out of our 5 CBs although that's not saying a lot.
 

TsuWave

Full Member
Joined
Oct 12, 2013
Messages
14,229
It's so bad. Every game there's a player through on goal because of a mistake from him. Just look at his defensive work for the Jones OG. What a mess that was.
That was Jones’ man. Bailly pushed up on his to press them away from our box. Jones should have but didn’t track his properly, and to accentuate it, scored an OG
 

Snow

Somewhere down the lane, a licky boom boom down
Joined
Jul 10, 2007
Messages
33,317
Location
Lousy Smarch weather
That was Jones’ man. Bailly pushed up on his to press them away from our box. Jones should have but didn’t track his properly, and to accentuate it, scored an OG
You're just wrong. When Bailly makes a run forward he's the one closest to Batshuayi. He goes out of defense, leaving a huge gap, to press a man that's facing away from goal but he doesn't even get close because that guy was always going to pass it pack for a quick 1-2. What's even worse is the "recovery" from the pressure. His turn back is bizarre, opens up the path even more and takes him further away from his position than if he simply would stop and run back immediately like footballers train every fecking training and already do multiple times each match.

Jones did track properly. He was ahead of Batshuayi and honestly should have gotten a free kick. He goes down like that because he's tugged and he expects to get it but clumsily tackles the ball instead which is his fault because you should play to the whistle.
 

Ekeke

Full Member
Joined
Aug 1, 2006
Messages
53,240
Location
Hope, We Lose
That was Jones’ man. Bailly pushed up on his to press them away from our box. Jones should have but didn’t track his properly, and to accentuate it, scored an OG
What? It was on the half way line. Parejo was just inside our half when a pass comes into him, in behind our midfield with Fred running back to try to get to him. Bailly sees the pass going into him and Bailly runs a good 10 yards towards him. Parejo simply passes the ball back and Bailly is no longer in the defensive line



Valencia is then playing the striker onside for no reason as theres no Valencia player near him that requires Valencia dropping deep and Jones is left on his own to try and deal with the player bursting through





Jones actually does well to get goalside of Batshuayi and hold him off after Batshuayi got a goalside run on him thanks to Valencia playing him onside

Yes obviously Jones makes a mess of dealing with it, big mistake from him there but his teammates let him down putting him in that situation in the first place. Theres also the keeper rushing out when Jones had it covered. But Jones should still clear that out of play
 

Sylar

Full Member
Joined
May 15, 2007
Messages
40,384
I have no issue with Bailly going forward, but the issue is the lack of communication all over. If Bailly goes forward then the other should cover. Valencia (player) being as deep as he is and not tucked in makes absolutely no sense. You either get in line or push forward. The player out wide (on their left) is not the immediate danger.
And then Jones passing back (into the middle of the goal without looking just added to the comedy).

Bailly is rash and needs a leader next to him. If Bailly is pushing up he needs to let Jones know (and that needs to be part of the overall plan). If hes just doing it when he feels like it its daft.
 

arthurka

Full Member
Joined
Jan 20, 2010
Messages
18,715
Location
Rectum
Our defensive shape is as bad as our attacking. Wonder what we are training everyday ?
This has little to do with the players more to do with our setup.
 

TsuWave

Full Member
Joined
Oct 12, 2013
Messages
14,229
@Snow @Ekeke

initially i didn't think he was wrong in pressing early, but fair enough, i went to rewatch it and he was closest to Batshuayi because Jones was on the other dude on the left (for some reason young gave him acres) then valencia is on no man's land too. It was an all around mess and I don't think he should be pinpointed as sole culprit.

Our defensive shape is as bad as our attacking. Wonder what we are training everyday ?
This has little to do with the players more to do with our setup.
agreed
 

A-man

Full Member
Joined
Nov 25, 2017
Messages
6,357
It was an all around mess and I don't think he should be pinpointed as sole culprit.
It was a mess, and this is my biggest issue with Bailly. It is a mess and still he decides to make it even more difficult by leaving his position and take a chance to put pressure on a player 50 meters away from goal. It must be really hard to be the other CB when he makes decisions like that.
 

Alabaster Codify7

New Member
Joined
Mar 11, 2015
Messages
6,553
Location
Wales
I reallllly want him to break through as I really like him. But I'm just not sure if its gonna happen. Maybe if he was partnered every week with a world class,composed,intelligent CB
 

Snow

Somewhere down the lane, a licky boom boom down
Joined
Jul 10, 2007
Messages
33,317
Location
Lousy Smarch weather
@Snow @Ekeke

initially i didn't think he was wrong in pressing early, but fair enough, i went to rewatch it and he was closest to Batshuayi because Jones was on the other dude on the left (for some reason young gave him acres) then valencia is on no man's land too. It was an all around mess and I don't think he should be pinpointed as sole culprit.
I didn't point him out as a sole culprit for the goal, after all Jones had recovered the position and could well have cleared the ball despite the small foul. I just pointed it out as something we see every match from Bailly and it's a really poor trait for a defender to have. It reminds me a bit of David Luiz who's got a lot of good qualities as a footballer but as a CB in a back 4 line he's got this same kind of inclination to do something stupid which gives the opposition a great chance to score.

The thing about defending is that you don't really need the best individual players to defend well. You just need your players to form a cohesive link. This season United has a lot of broken link in its defense. I've started to wonder if Mourinho was right about the type of football he was playing last season because the team hasn't shown that it's capable of defending well when it's focusing on attacking more, it's not particularily good at keeping the ball.
 

Canagel

Full Member
Joined
May 26, 2016
Messages
13,888
Our defensive shape is as bad as our attacking. Wonder what we are training everyday ?
This has little to do with the players more to do with our setup.
Yep. There's zero organization in the defensive phase. You don't need four world class defenders to have a good defence. rui faria was the brain behind our organization. .he left this summer and took the defence with him . Jose has been left exposed. at both ends of the pitch there's no cohesion
 
Last edited:

arthurka

Full Member
Joined
Jan 20, 2010
Messages
18,715
Location
Rectum
Yep. There's zero organization in the defensive phase. You don't need four world class defenders to have a good defence. rui faria was the brain behind our organization. .he left this summer and took the defence with him . Jose has been left exposed. at both ends of the pitch there's no cohesion
Exactly, Jose seems to have forgotten how to defend and attack..
 

TsuWave

Full Member
Joined
Oct 12, 2013
Messages
14,229
I've started to wonder if Mourinho was right about the type of football he was playing last season because the team hasn't shown that it's capable of defending well when it's focusing on attacking more, it's not particularily good at keeping the ball.
if only managers had the responsibility of coaching. besides, we are not exactly playing swashbuckling attacking football
 

UNITED ACADEMY

New Member
Joined
Aug 14, 2018
Messages
13,127
Supports
Erik ten Hag
He got great pace & tackle, he got the tools but problem is he’s just a defender with zero IQ defending. I thought he should have done better for the Jones’s own goal and that wasn’t the first or even third time I watched him being clueless not knowing where he needs to be and what he needs to do, I have seen it too many times. His positioning, awareness and man marking are just poor.
 

Ekeke

Full Member
Joined
Aug 1, 2006
Messages
53,240
Location
Hope, We Lose
Was decent, the deflected goal is the downside of the style of defender he is lunging in from distance because he wasnt initially in the best of positions. Other than that his contributions were mostly good and he worked hard
 

Irrational.

Full Member
Joined
Aug 10, 2011
Messages
32,902
Location
LVG's notebook
He's too hotheaded and rash for my liking, and sometimes he puts the team under unnecessary pressure. Has a way to go before he can be considered a first team defender for us.
 

Stadjer

Full Member
Joined
Apr 5, 2013
Messages
7,463
Location
The Netherlands
I think he did alright.. wasnt perfect but for someone who came in last moment it was okay. It did scare me when he landed hard, i thought he would go off injured but he stayed on so that saved us from a Phil Jones appearance which is a better contribution to todays match than the likes of Lingard and Lukaku had.
 

Nico87

Full Member
Joined
Aug 8, 2018
Messages
883
Location
Manchester
When we find him the right partner I still believe he can be a top player, I thought the last minute move for Godin could have been a brilliant transfer had he actually been attainable, not just because of him actually being a top centre half but Bailly spending a season or two next to a world class defender who's skill set is based around intelligence would compliment him perfectly and do wonders for him as a footballing education.
 

A-man

Full Member
Joined
Nov 25, 2017
Messages
6,357
Think he played well but made some poor decisions sometimes when he took off to put pressure further up the pitch.
 

haram

New Member
Joined
May 28, 2017
Messages
12,921
Played well, cant really fault most of the players for effort.
 

André Dominguez

Full Member
Joined
Aug 7, 2017
Messages
6,348
Location
Lisbon
Supports
Benfica, Académica
Great match yesterday. Was all over the place trying to compensate the (lack of) midfield protection.
 

Adam-Utd

Part of first caf team to complete Destiny raid
Joined
Sep 10, 2010
Messages
39,954
Thought he had a great game, showed some real composure at times.

He's a modern CB who's at his best when the balls on the floor.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.