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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
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Sorry Steve but how have you missed that Jones guy?
I'm sick of seeing Smalling's technique. That's enough.
So fouls and injuries are better? Not to mention terrible positioning
You're describing Smalling there too.
Because apart from heading (lool), he is generally a pro-active and on the front foot defender.
It's easy on they eye and a good trait to have.
It's just the injuries and lack of learning from experience/guidance making his development very flat.
Bailly cant make a pass either. Total myth of a player.
Too early to give up on Bailly. Hopefully, they can work out his shortcomings. Darmian, Rojo and Jones can go away. Always hoped Jones would live up to his potential, maybe even as a DM.
Jones actually could be a decent DM.
But Ole sees him as a CB.
But Ole sees him as a CB.
It's been 3 years. Too early my ass.
Because Jones at least looks like he knows what he's doing. He just can't seem to do it anymore.
Bailly looks like some random athletic person transported onto a football pitch and trying to figure things out.
Jones has made so many brain dead howlers over the years I'm not sure how you evaluated he knows what he is doing. He's no better than Bailly just with longer resume of feck ups and constant let downs. Rojo and Jones should be the first two out of the door if we have an ounce of reasoning left.
Jones makes a feck-up once every three or four games. Bailly regularly has three or four in the same game.
I see Jones as the first player that should be kicked out of OT.
I’d get rid of Rojo, Bailly and then Jones in that order. None are good enough, but Jones has contributed a lot more than the other two during the rare periods when he’s not injured.
Yeah that might have happened in MadDogg’s parallel universe. Compare Bailly’s to Jones high profile howlers over the years it’s laughable.
So what about "Hi I’m Phil Jones and Chris Smalling". One is playing bad for last 10 years and other gets injured and playing bad.
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If we're planning on giving every player as long as we've given Jones and Smalling to come good, we'll never win anything again.
Bailly is a crushing disappointment. He will have 20-30 mins spells where he looks incredible, smooth on the ball, reading the game, dominating his opponent with ease. Easily has the highest top level of any of our options, then just when you are thinking he is getting it, he will invariably go through a disastrous spell, playing like someone out of his depth. He also has the lowest bottom level.
Give him a comic book cloud above his head and he would be most entertaining player to watch in galaxy.
Feel the same, still quite young too. I think he needs to be at the right club to develop him where he's got good pros around him. When Ibra was here, he seemed to really look up to him.
Unless he learns how to time his leap and actually header the ball between now and August, then I don't think it's too early to bin him off. I can't remember seeing a centre back who was so poor in the air. It's one of the primary attributes you need to have.
I have little faith he is going to make significant improvement in that area, enough to warrant starting for us. He's great at those last ditch slide tackles, and he's generally a good defender when the ball is on the ground, but that's not enough.
I have little faith he is going to make significant improvement in that area, enough to warrant starting for us. He's great at those last ditch slide tackles, and he's generally a good defender when the ball is on the ground, but that's not enough.
That's actually a very good desxrdescri of him. His fluctuation is far too great from very good to awful and far too often it happens.
He's too limited to be a top CB and that's been plain to see for 3 years. He can't head the ball and will make a mistake due to positioning or lack of concentration costi us a goal in around 1 in 5 games he plays. He's the type of defender Arsenal have been plagued by in the last 10 years - good on the ball but not actually good defenders.
That's an exaggeration.
It probably is a bit of an exaggeration, but there's no doubt Bailly is significantly more rash and mistake-prone than Jones.
Rash maybe but mistake prone? I honestly remember much more howlers from Jones and they mainly were high profile ones.
He has the extra assets to be top centre back but doesn’t have the basic ones to be one. Can’t believe we spent £30m on him, Fosu Mensah is almost similar type of defender with same weakness & assets but cost nothing.
Got a good feeling about Bailly this season, with the right players around him I reckon there's still a chance for him to grow into a top CB. That's if he isn't sold to Lyon.
Let's hope if he stays that he can remain fit. He's a good player despite being rash.
Would love to ship him out. Nothing he can do that Tuanzebe cant. How many CB's do we have. Lindelof, Smailling, Bailly, Jones, Tuanzebe, Rojo and all of them are bang average. Sign the guy from Spurs and keep Lindelof, Smalling and Tuanzebe.
Is he injured yet?
Any news about him getting sold? Saw him being linked with Lyon, but thats about it.
We should be able to get a reasonable fee for him because of his age, but I dont think we'll recoup everything. If we're buying a new CB we need to clear space, he and Rojo should be the first ones out
We should be able to get a reasonable fee for him because of his age, but I dont think we'll recoup everything. If we're buying a new CB we need to clear space, he and Rojo should be the first ones out
No way, it should be Jones and Rojo. Both have been too long at the club and should be moved on.
Bailly’s contract expires next summer, so he should definitely be the first one out - if anyone wants him.
He should be one of the last out. His problem is injuries, but we keep Jones around and Bailly is twice the defender he is. If he can get a consistent run and settle down he has as much ability as any of them.
. So we extend Jones and Rojo and bailly should be the first one out?All 3 should go if the club is intent on winning trophies
Rather build him up and his market again and sell him for high fee to someone like Arsenal in the future if we have a chance to have some top CB. It's ridiculous to show him the door right now and make Smalling as Third choice again.
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He should be the second one out, Rojo first. Jones is a better defender. And that says it all, really. Bailly has never really been in Ole's plans, rightfully so, so my guess is thats he's going to be sold as long as there are new signings coming in. Giving him a new contract would be idiotic.
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