Eric Ramsay joins the first team coaching set up

Adnan

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Have you guys seen Chelsea's stats on set pieces from last year? Not much better than us. They only let one less goal from set pieces and similarly scored one more goal from set pieces. If we wanted a step improvement - how is Ramsey it? There are other teams with clearly much better stats.

We do need a great defensive coach. With Maguire, Varane, and Shaw we have best 3 out of 4 on the defense line. AWB needs a lot of improvement but he's not horrible. A great coach can turn that into gold or keep lukewarm. And I am not talking just about set pieces either. Who is overall responsible for our defense? McKenna?
Chelsea's set piece coach is Anthony Barry.
 

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Surely not, no way, a defensive coach?
Wait is he really a "defensive" coach or are we picturing him like tat because we simply want him to be?:-) For now I will take the "fresh" and "new ideas"..
 

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How do players usually take up to listening to someone who's younger/same age as them and isn't playing the game at any level?
 

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How do players usually take up to listening to someone who's younger/same age as them and isn't playing the game at any level?
Not sure about usually but it does work if the concerned individual is competent. See Mourinho.
 

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How do players usually take up to listening to someone who's younger/same age as them and isn't playing the game at any level?
If you are professional then you should listen to them without caring the age because these professionals are being paid. And also he's only coach not manager. If there are players don't listen, it's manager job to sort it out and also the captain of the team can help.
 

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Credit where credit is due. Lovely strong arms and looking like a fantastic addition to our set-up so far. Two goals from set pieces in one game, hoping that's a sign of things to come! That'll do monkey, that'll do :drool:
 

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Wasn't really fond of, by looking at his CV. But if those two goals is a sign of what yet to come, he's as good as signing world class player this Summer.
Those two goals are insane headers.
 
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Seriously his arms are very chiselled, good things lie ahead.
 

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You just wait until we play the like of Burnley and Chris Woods Scores two corners, it'll be sad when the cafe explode on him :wenger:
 

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Wasn't really fond of, by looking at his CV. But if those two goals is a sign of what yet to come, he's as good as signing world class player this Summer.
Those two goals are insane headers.
Is it his working experience that is a bit off for you? Other than that the paper credentials: PhD, Pro badge and the polyglot stuff look good from a glance?
 

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Is it his working experience that is a bit off for you? Other than that the paper credentials: PhD, Pro badge and the polyglot stuff look good from a glance?
Pep and SAF didn't have PhD. Even fecking Gary Neville could get pro badge. At the top level, pro world usually care more about what you've done.
 
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Set pieces were our major major weakness last season.

It's good to see we're taking steps to try and fix that problem.
 

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Pep and SAF didn't have PhD. Even fecking Gary Neville could get pro badge. At the top level, pro world usually care more about what you've done.
I can understand your point about the lack of experience. We just have to wait and see.
 

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I can understand your point about the lack of experience. We just have to wait and see.
True. It's not like we can do anything, anyway :D . As long as the team shows good result, who cares about coaches credentials.
 

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Surely Ramsay can do no harm. Looking at how bad we were defensively last year and let alone how poor we are when attacking set pieces for as long as i can remember. We conceded and gave far too many points away last year from winning positions in the late stages of games where we should of won. Concentration and focus was non-existent . Maguire is the only United defender last year who would throw himself at the ball. Poor old Lindelof doesnt know how to jump.

Lets hope he also brings some imagination to our attacking set pieces as well. Let's get creative and try something new. I am fed up with watching our corners or free kicks being floated into areas where we dont have anyone attacking, or even worse, not beating the first man !
 

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For anyone with an Athletic sub there's a great article by Tom Worville highlighting the importance of a set piece coach and how Ramsay has already improved our set pieces.

https://theathletic.co.uk/2784842/2021/08/23/set-pieces-importance-premier-league/

Looking at Manchester United’s transfer business this summer, their cheapest new signing might, in fact, be their most impactful.

No, not Tom Heaton, but Eric Ramsay, the club’s new individual development and set-piece coach, who joined from Chelsea back in July. Coaches earn nowhere near as much as players, but Ramsay’s work on the training ground could provide the most value over the course of the season.

The need for a specific set-piece coach is fairly obvious. United scored just nine goals from non-penalty set pieces in the Premier League last season, which puts them joint-11th with Burnley. Manchester City, Liverpool and Chelsea — their likely rivals for the title — all scored 13 goals from these situations, joint-fourth in the Premier League.

The other reason for requiring a set-piece coach for United is that the repeatability of them winning 11 penalties as they did last season is questionable, especially with VAR reviews being tightened up this season. Even if United can keep up their unmatched average of around 10 penalty goals a season in the last three seasons, the number of opportunities to score from corners, free kicks and throw-ins will remain roughly the same.

Hiring a set-piece coach and dedicating training time to practising these situations is one very cost-effective strategy of making more from these situations. And the financial investment of hiring a specialist coach is logical. The cost of a goal in the Premier League is in the millions; a set-piece coach will be on wages far, far below that.
 

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Sack him

I mean seriously we've got more of a chance of scoring if the officials give a goal kick
 

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Tbh we need to get Luke off corners for a while and get Slabhead to change into an England shirt before every corner.
Shaw takes them for England though, put them both in an England shirt
 

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I don't know if it's intentional or not but every corner seems directed towards Maguire. We have Cristiano, McTominay and Varane. We should try something different for a change.

11 corners today and not one was close.
 

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I wouldn't be surprised if West ham were purposefully giving away corner kicks. We looked million miles from scoring from any of them and they had quite a few attacking opportunities from the counter. Ole referred to it as well in post match. We should really just take a short one and not bring the CBs up at this stage.
 

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I don't know if it's intentional or not but every corner seems directed towards Maguire. We have Cristiano, McTominay and Varane. We should try something different for a change.

11 corners today and not one was close.
I did say that in the match thread too. We have very good headers in Varane, Ronaldo, McTominay and Pogba.
 

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I feel the balls into the box from Shaw we’re decent we just got beat in the air every time. Maguire, Varane, Ronaldo, Pogba, McTominay is a good selection of players we need to be better.
 

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We are so shit at corners West Ham were kicking the ball out to give us one.
 

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To be fair we look better at defending set pieces now, but yeah we're still hopeless at scoring from them.
 

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I don't know if it's intentional or not but every corner seems directed towards Maguire. We have Cristiano, McTominay and Varane. We should try something different for a change.

11 corners today and not one was close.
Completely agree. Our corner kicks are so fecking predictable to read. You just know it’s going to be aimed for Maguire all the time despite us having 2-3 other players that are dangerous in the air inside the box. Plus not sure how many times we’ve scored from a corner in the last two seasons?

Having said that, our defending from set-pieces this season has been much, much better so at least some huge improvement in that department tbf.