Tom Van Persie
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Feel very mixed, I think most reasonable fans would agree that EtH has done a good job so far. The majority of things have gone as likely to be planned, or even better. One result doesn't change that, and even if we did have a disappointing season, there is a vision, a mission and an idea to be relied on.
However, it saddens me how light some are taking this result. Obviously those screaming for him to be sacked are overreacting, however if he was sacked, it wouldn't be a disgrace either.
Losing 4-0 to Brentford, packing 6 vs City, losing 7-0 to Liverpool should be a sackable offense, and maybe would be close to that if we had ambitious owners and a board. Some are really normalising it, and it should never be at this club if we had ambitious owners and leadership. I rate EtH as high as any, but seeing how some of the fan base our downplaying this disgrace and rationalising it, really makes me see how far this club has fallen in terms of standards. The fact that EtH himself is so very keen on standards from my experience and knowledge is what makes me have trust in him.
Do this at clubs at Real Madrid, Bayern, Barcelona and you can't even talk "about bouncing back", because there will be no guarantee that you are there the next day.
Feel very mixed, I think most reasonable fans would agree that EtH has done a good job so far. The majority of things have gone as likely to be planned, or even better. One result doesn't change that, and even if we did have a disappointing season, there is a vision, a mission and an idea to be relied on.
However, it saddens me how light some are taking this result. Obviously those screaming for him to be sacked are overreacting, however if he was sacked, it wouldn't be a disgrace either.
Losing 4-0 to Brentford, packing 6 vs City, losing 7-0 to Liverpool should be a sackable offense, and maybe would be close to that if we had ambitious owners and a board. Some are really normalising it, and it should never be at this club if we had ambitious owners and leadership. I rate EtH as high as any, but seeing how some of the fan base our downplaying this disgrace and rationalising it, really makes me see how far this club has fallen in terms of standards. The fact that EtH himself is so very keen on standards from my experience and knowledge is what makes me have trust in him.
Do this at clubs at Real Madrid, Bayern, Barcelona and you can't even talk "about bouncing back", because there will be no guarantee that you are there the next day.
Feel very mixed, I think most reasonable fans would agree that EtH has done a good job so far. The majority of things have gone as likely to be planned, or even better. One result doesn't change that, and even if we did have a disappointing season, there is a vision, a mission and an idea to be relied on.
However, it saddens me how light some are taking this result. Obviously those screaming for him to be sacked are overreacting, however if he was sacked, it wouldn't be a disgrace either.
Losing 4-0 to Brentford, packing 6 vs City, losing 7-0 to Liverpool should be a sackable offense, and maybe would be close to that if we had ambitious owners and a board. Some are really normalising it, and it should never be at this club if we had ambitious owners and leadership. I rate EtH as high as any, but seeing how some of the fan base our downplaying this disgrace and rationalising it, really makes me see how far this club has fallen in terms of standards. The fact that EtH himself is so very keen on standards from my experience and knowledge is what makes me have trust in him.
Do this at clubs at Real Madrid, Bayern, Barcelona and you can't even talk "about bouncing back", because there will be no guarantee that you are there the next day.
A freak result can happen, 3 trashings within just over half a year, from which 2 to rivals is completely different to Klopp having one trashing after winning them the CL and PL.We are not in the same league as Bayern.
Haven't been for a long time.
Freak results happen. Liverpool shipped 7 to villa 18 months ago.
United definitely have an away form problem.
A freak result can happen, 3 trashings within just over half a year, from which 2 to rivals is completely different to Klopp having one trashing after winning them the CL and PL.
But I don't want it to look like I want EtH sacked, far from it actually, was his biggest advocate whilst at Ajax and he's my favourite manager of the past 10 years. This just can't keep happening in my opinion, and is an absolute disgrace.
Some United fans seem to have no pride in the club, I do.
You seem to have poor comprehension skills, find me one place where I suggested that.@ no pride in the club
I ask again what is your angle here?
You saying you not saying you want him sacked, but are hinting we should be because we are showing no pride for 3 hammering. What is it you exactly want from the fans?
Most are buzzing on a huge turnaround this season from possibly the worse season we've had since Moyes season.
If you want to focus just on one of games and miss the rest in-between that is on you, or do you want fans to be calling for his head to show pride?
You seem to have poor comprehension skills, find me one place where I suggested that.
I am however suggesting that if you describe that result as just a loss, or just 3 points, you have a very different sense of pride or maybe none at all when it comes to this club.
Seeing Weghorst start game after game after game has small elements of doubt creep into my mind about the manager.
That's more on Bruno than on Ten Hag, I think, if we are honest.Seeing Weghorst start game after game after game has small elements of doubt creep into my mind about the manager.
Stubborn loyalty.Seeing Weghorst start game after game after game has small elements of doubt creep into my mind about the manager.
Seeing Weghorst start game after game after game has small elements of doubt creep into my mind about the manager.
Maybe he should play one of the high profile stikers the owners bought him in Jan.Seeing Weghorst start game after game after game has small elements of doubt creep into my mind about the manager.
Maybe he should play one of the high profile stikers the owners bought him in Jan.
Maybe he should play one of the high profile stikers the owners bought him in Jan.
We're carrying 2 toothless players in our attack. Weghorst and Antony have zero direct threat to the opposition goal in the form of goals or assists. It's all on Rashford
All of the above are a better option, regardless.And who would you play instead to change that? Sancho, Elanga, Pellistri? Garnacho who's had probably one good start for us? And Rashford as a striker, yeah? Cause that's worked so well for us.
And who would you play instead to change that? Sancho, Elanga, Pellistri? Garnacho who's had probably one good start for us? And Rashford as a striker, yeah? Cause that's worked so well for us.
Garnacho and Sancho both benched to play a striker out of position.
He’s shocking, yet people on here were applauding ETH for picking the same XI after our most shambolic performance in history.WW better not be out in the 2nd half. Donkey.
Not a big fan of Weghorst, but starting the same 11 as against Liverpool is excellent management. They all fecked up, and now they all have a chance to redeem themselves. Dropping one player would send a wrong message.
Wout works hard but he really does not belong to this club. I would prefer to see Elanga to have a go rather than striker who can’t score anything.Sancho is not even an option at this point. He's completely useless. As bad as Weghorst is, he contributes immeasurably more than Sancho.
This isnt Too Fast 2 Furious: Ride Together Die Together.
What if the manager does believe this 11 are most likely to win the game?This isnt Too Fast 2 Furious: Ride Together Die Together.
The manager should and have to play the team he feels is most likely to win.
Garnacho cant buy a start, yet Wout keeps his spot in the First XI despite having been subbed off at either HT or early in the 2nd half multiple times due to performance. He has yet again had a poor first half and will likely get subbed off again at HT.
If he feels Wout in particular is the best option, then that is the managers decision. I am all for allowing players to redeem themselves, but the knockout stages of the European competition is not the arena for a feelgood story.