Erik ten Hag - Ajax Manager

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He seems to be a winner. I like my impressions of him.

I watched the highlights of the Benfica games to see how they went out after being so good in the CL up to that point

Didn’t help that the GK was like 74 years old and looked absolutely shite. Can only imagine he was 3rd choice and had to play
 

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But you've changed from agreeing with someone that said "There is nothing wrong with this set of players" to "With the right manager, won't be playing so badly".
We're not playing well but imo that's because Rangnick has put across some hard truths to the squad and they have downed tools.
Their effort levels are abysmal.
To say there is nothing wrong with this squad or to agree with that statement is just bizarre imo.
I didn’t change my opinion at all. You just didn’t even understand it before starting an argument. I feel sorry for your logic.
What we are saying is that these players have the qualities but Ralf are unable to get the best of them. We think a right manager will do much much better than where we are now, the 8th in the table. Do you understand the logic behind now?
 

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If he can turn bang average players like Tadic and Haller around that's got to give some hope when it comes to our lot
 

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For me, both ETH and Potter could transform our play and the philosophy to catch up with the lost years. But ETH probably could create a structure and style from youth to the first team successfully.
What he said just shows that he has that sharp eyes on individual qualities and help adapt it to a system. The potential appointment of ETH is probably the only excitement we can look forward in the next couple of weeks.
 

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If he can turn bang average players like Tadic and Haller around that's got to give some hope when it comes to our lot
I guess many of us including myself think the transfer of Tardic and Haller were odd for Ajax at that time. They apparently work out well. Not sure how much ETH play a role in the decisions. If our club can do transfer like they have done, we will be in good shape then. Need to tie him up early and assemble his team to work with us asap.
 

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I haven't seen Poch's side dominate possession against top sides consistently. When he was in PL, his spurs side used to hardly dominate big sides but instead got dominated consistently by other top 4 or top 6 sides.

Also the football his side play especially since 2018 has been underwhelming. Would rather risk with ETH and give him the backing. Poch will be a meh choice
I can guarantee you dont have the possession stats to back this assertion. You made this up
 

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There is nothing wrong with the present set of players. Ole won top 4 with them the last two seasons.

They will do well under Ten Hag. Ralf has been a poor manager.
Ralf has been unfortunate. His striking options have been majorly depleted. We keep drawing games and have no real focal point up front and little quality in the forward line. Cavani’s and Greenwood’s unavailability have hurt us massively. Ronaldo is past his best and often been injured too, Martial gone and Rashford rubbish. With that, you may win any given game, but you will struggle to win any consistently as is needed to build momentum, confidence and points.
 

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I can guarantee you dont have the possession stats to back this assertion. You made this up
You can't make up eye test. If I say I don't find his football attractive, what is there to make it up. His football since 2018 has been dour, that is my opinion. Nothing to make it up. His record against other Big 6 sides in PL especially away is poor, Nothing to make it up. His football against Pep's city has always been about sitting back and trying to hit on the breaks, again what is their to make it up.

This is not to say Pochettino's team play bad football, but feel we can do better.
 

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You can't make up eye test. If I say I don't find his football attractive, what is there to make it up. His football since 2018 has been dour, that is my opinion. Nothing to make it up. His record against other Big 6 sides in PL especially away is poor, Nothing to make it up. His football against Pep's city has always been about sitting back and trying to hit on the breaks, again what is their to make it up.

This is not to say Pochettino's team play bad football, but feel we can do better.
You can write a novel about how you dislike his football but I'm specifically addressing the made up facts about Pochs possession stats against the top 4-6
 

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If he brings Alvarez, Timber and Antony I’m gonna cry.
 
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You can write a novel about how you dislike his football but I'm specifically addressing the made up facts about Pochs possession stats against the top 4-6
You can keep on replying to me with your baseless point but his side doesn't always/consistently dominate big teams in big games. He is more of a pragmatic coach (and nothing wrong with that).
 

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I didn’t change my opinion at all. You just didn’t even understand it before starting an argument. I feel sorry for your logic.
What we are saying is that these players have the qualities but Ralf are unable to get the best of them. We think a right manager will do much much better than where we are now, the 8th in the table. Do you understand the logic behind now?
You're starting to look silly now. You are just making things up. I replied to your comment agreeing with a statement that said "There is nothing wrong with the players".
They are completely at fault. The majority of pundits and fans are saying the players are the problem. So they were unprofessional and unmotivated Mourinho, Solskjaer and Rangnick but don't worry, they'll be title challengers under the next one? Ridiculous.
 

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You can keep on replying to me with your baseless point but his side doesn't always/consistently dominate big teams in big games. He is more of a pragmatic coach (and nothing wrong with that).
He's actually a more attack minded coach who places an emphasis on a high line, high pressing and quick transitions to attacking positions. You can go along with the theme of revisionism when it comes to Poch on here though
 

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He's actually a more attack minded coach who places an emphasis on a high line, high pressing and quick transitions to attacking positions. You can go along with the theme of revisionism when it comes to Poch on here though
https://medium.com/@georgelw/erik-ten-hag-d12d8f16f5b2

Interesting article about Ten Hag and a comparison between the top sites in Europe - both domestic stats and between them in Europe this season. According to the article Ajax has higher possession stats in both cases than PSG; the latter has just around 55% in the CL while Ajax has higher possession stats than even City with around 62%.

" In terms of possession, you’d probably expect City to be higher, but you can see Ajax are up there with the big hitters. Poch’s PSG however have only had slightly higher average possession than United. It’s not the be-all and end-all, but it is a sign of a comfortable, dominant side on the ball."
 

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We need fresh players in defence, attack and midfield. If there is at least one that tries hard in those positions and they havent been affected by these shower of shite we that have now, ETH might stand a chance. He cant come in, play the same midfield and defence and expect not to lose a game. Their heads are fecked. Mentaly broken.
Yeah that number of players needed for the first XI let alone squad depth seems to grow every week
 

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If he can turn bang average players like Tadic and Haller around that's got to give some hope when it comes to our lot
Those players werent world class but still decent and most importantly they didnt live in a huge club bubble that were in a mess that led to their mentality being changed for the worse.
 

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Yeah that number of players needed for the first XI let alone squad depth seems to grow every week
The cultural reboot with these players have failed terribly. Now we have a culture of toxic positivity where the players know they can get away by not giving their all and believe they have nothing to play for and think thats okay because what matters is for them not to get abused by the fans. Living in a sunshine and rainbows, avoiding criticism. God save ETH.
 

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The cultural reboot with these players have failed terribly. Now we have a culture of toxic positivity where the players know they can get away by not giving their all and believe they have nothing to play for.
Yeah there is so much poison running through that dressing room it's untrue, like you say these players know full well they are going to get away with lacklustre performances until the end of this season because Ralf is only interim boss
 

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They are soft with everyone in comparison to what you can see on the continent. Also the way they share their opinion is soft, english media isn't particularly confrontational which is not necessarily the case on the continent. Think about it this way, media on the continent are as direct as fans are.
People talk as if an Ajax coach largely gets a free pass. Ajax coaches are roasted by fans and media if they do not both win trophies and play 'the right way' (the Ajax style). They don't demand CL success of course, but there are probably few environments that are as hard on a manager.

Obviously, the global coverage isn't there, and so on and so forth. But still.
Then you only know about poch, what the haters on here tells you. His side plays attractive football and as mentioned only pep has more passing than him this season.
From what I've read, though, PSG fans aren't happy at all with the football on display. So not that attractive right now.
 

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People talk as if an Ajax coach largely gets a free pass. Ajax coaches are roasted by fans and media if they do not both win trophies and play 'the right way' (the Ajax style). They don't demand CL success of course, but there are probably few environments that are as hard on a manager.

Obviously, the global coverage isn't there, and so on and so forth. But still.

From what I've read, though, PSG fans aren't happy at all with the football on display. So not that attractive right now.
Psg fans are the same fans that complained with tuchel, emery and other previous managers that got sacked. Yet most of these managers wet on to do well at other clubs, despite the negativity they got by psg fans. They are only happy when they get champion league and that is the standard of managing one of the toughest job in football. Most fans of a top club will love it if they are walking the league, reaching the semi finals and playing possession based football. But psg fans are a different breed. I think they only fantasize of pep but then again, pep hasn't won a champion league with Manchester city yet. So, I don't know what their ideal manager is.
 

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He's probably not sure now. Hell why would we want to come and work with these bunch of cowards you call players.
 

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Psg fans are the same fans that complained with tuchel, emery and other previous managers that got sacked. Yet most of these managers wet on to do well at other clubs, despite the negativity they got by psg fans. They are only happy when they get champion league and that is the standard of managing one of the toughest job in football. Most fans of a top club will love it if they are walking the league, reaching the semi finals and playing possession based football. But psg fans are a different breed. I think they only fantasize of pep but then again, pep hasn't won a champion league with Manchester city yet. So, I don't know what their ideal manager is.
Tuchel gave them more goals than Poch.
 

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This is the same person who wrote Ten Hag FC Utrecht review
Number 3 :lol: This will not end well if true.

I am really interested in how he approaches things and I hope fans are patient but a part of me fears the worst.
 

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The bit about retraining players into different positions is interesting. Wonder how someone like McTominay would actually fare as a CB.
 

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One of the comments from his old post. He seems like what we need. Our board is hopeless so we could really use a control freak.


 

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This is the same person who wrote Ten Hag FC Utrecht review
Oh dear, if only he survives for even an year then. No chance our humble peasants will work hard in training multiple times a day for a week forget one season. And no chance our board gives ten hag the full power to oust anyone. We ain’t never gonna see his football. It will be ole ball after few months into the 2nd season before we sack him and these players survive again at this club which won’t surprise me because this lot can survive even a nuclear apocalypse. We are doomed till eternity.
 

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Good read. The part about his provincial accent is hilarious. There's a Feyenoord supporter on this forum who said Hag speaks like Forest Gump haha.
really? :lol: Forest doesn’t say non sense actually. Just hope no one keeps shouting, “run! Forest~“
 

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This is the same person who wrote Ten Hag FC Utrecht review
He’s going to monitor what the players eat and even check the consistency of their poo? He’ll quit the first Monday after Luke Shaw’s post-full-English-shite blocks up the Carrington bogs
 

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Some of our players will probably create an issue when he demands a lot out of them. So when you results start to go awry we can expect a lot of those typical articles about his methods. Important the club make it absolutely clear that his way is the only way so the squirmy ones can get out.

Assuming he joins of course. United is a tough job but I still feel that with a little competence and ruthlessness from both manager and executives, we can build something good withon 3 years (not league winning but functional and unbroken). But it needs a few people having a spine and taking some.big calls.
 

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https://medium.com/@georgelw/erik-ten-hag-d12d8f16f5b2

Interesting article about Ten Hag and a comparison between the top sites in Europe - both domestic stats and between them in Europe this season. According to the article Ajax has higher possession stats in both cases than PSG; the latter has just around 55% in the CL while Ajax has higher possession stats than even City with around 62%.

" In terms of possession, you’d probably expect City to be higher, but you can see Ajax are up there with the big hitters. Poch’s PSG however have only had slightly higher average possession than United. It’s not the be-all and end-all, but it is a sign of a comfortable, dominant side on the ball."
The possession obsession shared by Dutch managers has never translated well in the PL in all honesty. LVG bored us to death with it for instance. Ten Hag will have to achieve something non of his compratiots has on these shores