Erik Ten Hag appreciation thread

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1. Won two trophies after 6 years trophy drought
2. Beating City in FA was amazing moment
3. Got rid most of deadwood
4. Fully promoted Mainoo and Garnacho
5. Left more or less good squad (especially regarding age) to next manager
6. He never disrespected club in any way.
7. Seemed as a nice guy.

Thank you, Erik.
 
2b. That FA cup quarter final come back against Liverpool with Amad late goal.
 
9. stood up to Ronaldo and Sancho. The former maybe was right but had a SAF feel to it as in “nobody bigger than the club” I’ll respect him for stamping his foot and applying his authority which is what we wanted and probably still need, the two trophies also as well. But we all know it was time to go.
 
I appreciate the first few months of him taking over leading up to the league cup because of the hope it garnered. Seemed like he was actually building something, and was getting results. The rest of his tenure was a dumpster fire.
 
I think history will be kind to him. Clearly the right time to go and we are utterly fecking dreadful at present, but two trophies in two years is massively important (it would be our eighth year without a trophy right now).

The FA Cup win last season will certainly go down as one of the best matches in our club's history.

We also have a lot of decent young players that can make the step up with the next manager; Mainoo, Garnacho, Hojlund and others.
 
Samid said:
Now list all the records he broke so that we can truly appreciate yesterday's decision.
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I listed things which (i think) he did good. I am not saying that he was success but he wasn't complete disaster and he doesn't deserve "hate". He tried, did some things good and at the end, he failed. Of course that he did many things wrong. Who wants to point at that is free to make a thread about it.
 
Since the league cup win, it has been pretty dreadful and the league form as well as the performances in Europe have been the worst in the last decade.

However, FA cup run last season, particularly the Liverpool game (the winning goal was prob the best moment I have had at OT in a long time) and beating City in the final will live long in the memory.

Cheerio Erik!
 
I think he's going to have a chip on his shoulder over his sacking in a similar way to Van Gaal, despite not having a leg to stand on.

But anyway, thanks for trying Erik. Call it stubbornness, call it arrogance, call it delusion, but there's no denying that he kept going right until the very end. He even did the Leicester pre-match press conference in the London Stadium after the West Ham game.
 
First 6 months were pretty good after the Brentford match. Looked promising and set us up for what I thought was going to be a great future.

Loved his early attitude and routing out the bad apples - just a shame it didn't extend to other players fully.

Mostly agreed with his signings but he never seemed to settle on a good system, aside from the midfield three in his first six months and the box midfield at the end of last year.
 
Tiber said:
Are standards really this low now?
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It's probably not really standards, I think it's @Robbie Boy who regularly talks about it but Utd fans develop a weird attachment to managers.

Maybe something to do with most of us growing up with one great manager for our entire childhood.
 
Yeah, ultimately not good enough - couldn't quite get his ideas across and really grappled with the quality of the EPL. Giving him all those power over signings didn't help him or the club either.

Alas, I quite liked him and wanted him to succeed here, but it didn't work out. He should have been let go after the FA Cup win (at the very latest! - he was lucky to even survive that long but I guess the club went through a partial sale and a huge executive makeover which bought him some more time).

Dealt with some difficult on/off field issues as well during his tenure but that's part of the parcel of football I guess. Happy that Ineos finally pulled the trigger and haven't just allowed this season to go to waste (even i they should've done this at the end of last year).
 
I appreciate what he tried to do in raising the technical levels of the squad. Ultimately it failed because he didn't address the physical side of it well enough.

Won 2 cups and got rid of a bunch of overpaid gowls. Sadly he's also left behind quite a few overpaid aging players + whatever Antony is supposed to be.
 
crossy1686 said:
Can't bring myself to say anything positive other than a couple of good cup wins so thanks for that I guess.
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same feeling, happy for the cup wins, and some big wins against City & Liverpool, but that's about it really, I also appreciate him making Mainoo a mainstay with Garna.
 
Squad wise and culture wise, we're in a better position than we were when he joined us. Results wise, it's about the same or a little worse which is ultimately what matters. Thank you Erik.
 
Although he will be looked back on a massive failure, he still won more trophies in 2 years than Artera has in 6 during what we are led to believe is some sort of Arsenal golden era.
 
Nice guy, wish it would have worked out.

He will be successful elsewhere imo, just not the right sort of personality for a job like this.
 
Harsh on him to be sacked. Deserved perhaps, but 54 and in his biggest job to date. Sacked, in spite of his two trophy wins, after two and a bit seasons.

Tough for him to take.

Anyway, now he's out of the job, his harshest critics will start to reassess his reign for a cheap shot at United. Especially if Amorim fails.

A bit like how McTominay is Europe's greatest midfielder or Sancho 'tearing it up' despite recently being dropped.
 
It's obvious I wanted him to work out, beyond all reason and rationale. It didn't work and I wish him all the best.

I probably have some bias toward backing a manager because I've been very defensive of all of our coaches bar Ole. I will probably do the same with the next guy.

I grew up with the SAF reign and it might have affected how I view the game and the anchoring probably won't change much. No hard feelings toward @crossy1686 @TsuWave @Valencia Shin Crosses @stevoc and the many other posters I would debated with on that.
 
VP89 said:
It's obvious I wanted him to work out, beyond all reason and rationale. It didn't work and I wish him all the best.

I probably have some bias toward backing a manager because I've been very defensive of all of our coaches bar Ole. I will probably do the same with the next guy.

I grew up with the SAF reign and it might have affected how I view the game and the anchoring probably won't change much. No hard feelings toward @crossy1686 @TsuWave @Valencia Shin Crosses @stevoc and the many other posters I would debated with on that.
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No hard feelings mate. I enjoyed our debates for the most part. We all want what's best for the club and that manifests itself in different ways for different people.
 
Fa cup final was great. The win over Liverpool in the cup was a classic. I like that he promoted Mainoo and Garnacho. Not much else stands out.
 
Judas said:
The FA cup final was great. Maybe in time I'll remember more highlights, but its a real struggle to be appreciative of much he achieved here.
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I think he'll be remembered less favourably than LVG but around the same level. At least LVG was a fun person.
 
OverratedOpinion said:
It's probably not really standards, I think it's @Robbie Boy who regularly talks about it but Utd fans develop a weird attachment to managers.

Maybe something to do with most of us growing up with one great manager for our entire childhood.
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I think this could be a clean slate tbh. Well I'm hoping anyway. No matter what biases people had with managers before, it's time we all accepted that every single post-Fergie manager was a failure and the new man needs to do much better.
 
Samid said:
Now list all the records he broke so that we can truly appreciate yesterday's decision.
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Plenty of the ETH bashing threads you can move on to.
 
crossy1686 said:
I think he'll be remembered less favourably than LVG but around the same level. At least LVG was a fun person.
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Speaking for myself, I don't think anything will beat LVG for how boring the games were.
 
The FA cup QF win V Liverpool and Final win over City will live long in the memory , thank you ETH for that.

There were some good days but no real progress on building a team that can challenge for a title again and that is one thing we all crave.
 
Andycoleno9 said:
I listed things which (i think) he did good. I am not saying that he was success but he wasn't complete disaster and he doesn't deserve "hate". He tried, did some things good and at the end, he failed. Of course that he did many things wrong. Who wants to point at that is free to make a thread about it.
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It's a nice thread mate, a lot of people on here are only able to function in absolutes and any positivity or compliments should be crushed immediately. Ten Hag was ultimately a failure but also did quite a few good things, it's absolutely fine to celebrate them.

On top of your list, I appreciated the way he navigated the Ronaldo situation and I thought he was very dignified throughout the whole takeover process which must have been a nightmare to work through. I also believe he handled the Sancho situation well, being particularly conscious of his mental health and trying to support him as much as he could (at first). One of the images that will remain for me from his tenure is when Sancho returned from that "break" in the Netherlands and scored or assisted on his return, Ten Hag's joy on the sidelines was very genuine and heartfelt and I really enjoyed that.
 
The first season was relatively decent. Nothing amazing, and pretty comparable to Ole's second place season. Last season was very poor but the FA Cup win was a brilliant day, and it's genuinely sad that so many on here downplay it because of their hatred for the bloke. We should have parted ways over the summer, and keeping him on worked out really bad for both parties.

Ultimately, he was too stubborn and his tactics, last season especially, were absolutely mind boggling. It's a shame how badly most of his tenure went as he looked a genuinely exciting appointment at the time.
 
I didn't care for his football. But the disastrous signings he made makes him the worst United manager post SAF for me. Even the two cups we won under him won't make a difference.
 
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