I want to see defensive stability. Think if that happens it will help with the attacking as well. If you are confident of not conceding you are not as cautious going forward.What I want next season is to see progress. I want to see a style of play implemented with a good tactical and technical setup. I don’t expect trophies and instant success from ETH.
Exhausted at this stage and out of posts. Klopp had a chance to coach the players at his disposal. He got a tune out of them but they weren't good enough. He showed what his football was gonna look like though.Those situations again are not comparable because Klopp didn’t have a pre season or a transfer window. The moment he did Liverpool made top 4 comfortably. Just like we should.
What a great player.
Was talking to someone the other day and the conversation turned to Mata. The feeling was that he could be a great back up for a ETH side even now compared to other players. He still has a good football brain and with technical players coached in the way Ajax seem to be he wouldn't need to be fast etc. The ball would do the work and it was the quick passes and 1-2s in tight space that create the flow rather than a player who is lightening fast.A prime Mata would have been a joy to behold under Ten Hag. I'm so mad that we wasted him under rubbish/has-been coaches.
Holding people to their opinions from a year ago isnt going to sway today's opinions. Not only is it not the same squad it's also possible people have changed their stance and are no longer as high on the players staying or never even were. For example for a wide range of reasons very few hold the same opinions about Ronaldo, Rashford, Greenwood they did from a year ago, and honestly why should they?If you go into any thread from last summer the consensus was that we had a really good squad. We’ve had a shit season but a competent manager should easily make top 4, there is more than enough quality there.
Agree that everyone shouldn’t have to have the same opinions, but I’m offering a bit of perspective. We might not think the squad is as good as we used to think it was but to go from that to thinking it’s complete and utter dogshit is pretty extreme. I’m quite certain the common opinion of players like Maguire, Fred, Shaw, Bruno etc. will be very different next season.Holding people to their opinions from a year ago isnt going to sway today's opinions. Not only is it not the same squad it's also possible people have changed their stance and are no longer as high on the players staying or never even were. For example for a wide range of reasons very few hold the same opinions about Ronaldo, Rashford, Greenwood they did from a year ago, and why should they?
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Yeeeey, thank you.
What a great player.
I really like Juan Mata as a person, he seems like he’s a great human being. He’s had some nice days in a United shirt for sure. Outstanding free kick taker, unselfish, technical. However, prime Mata was not as great as we remember. Even tough he’s 34 now, he really hasn’t played much the last 4 seasons. The game started to pass him by fairly early in his career. I think it was a combination of the came changing to be much more physical, speed-based. He really is the definition of a luxury player because he’s basically a zero as a defender, even in his prime. You’re constantly playing 11v10, and his contributions in possession weren’t impactful enough to make up for his defensive shortcomings.A prime Mata would have been a joy to behold under Ten Hag. I'm so mad that we wasted him under rubbish/has-been coaches.
I mean, would anyone actually be surprised? If anything he's probably closer to a new bumper contract than an exit.What is metro, is it reliable?
Its from the GOSSIP section of Metro.What is metro, is it reliable?
None of these players are guaranteed improvements. They especially have tendencies that have to be adapted. It's not a like for like equation where every talent scales higher. Bruno alone could spend the first few months adapting his ADD long ball fetish to more patient build. I don't even see ETH as his ideal manager. He obviously wants a lot of creative freedom.Agree that everyone shouldn’t have to have the same opinions, but I’m offering a bit of perspective. We might not think the squad is as good as we used to think it was but to go from that to thinking it’s complete and utter dogshit is pretty extreme. I’m quite certain the common opinion of players like Maguire, Fred, Shaw, Bruno etc. will be very different next season.
We found our leaker boys. Mata The Leaker.
Mata stopped writing on his blog in October 2019 to concentrate on writing headlines for the tabloids obvs.If Mata leaves the club, I would love to hear his take on the shitbirds that populated the dressing room this season.
He is probably too nice to point fingers, but it would be amazing to hear from him what actually happened.
Agree fully.I really like Juan Mata as a person, he seems like he’s a great human being. He’s had some nice days in a United shirt for sure. Outstanding free kick taker, unselfish, technical. However, prime Mata was not as great as we remember. Even tough he’s 34 now, he really hasn’t played much the last 4 seasons. The game started to pass him by fairly early in his career. I think it was a combination of the came changing to be much more physical, speed-based. He really is the definition of a luxury player because he’s basically a zero as a defender, even in his prime. You’re constantly playing 11v10, and his contributions in possession weren’t impactful enough to make up for his defensive shortcomings.
I can’t help but think Mata represents what United have become post SAF. He just was never good enough to be a top player on a title winning side. Maybe that is harsh, but it feels true.
Nothing surprising about any of this, given Ten Hag's football philosophy is well known. Let's see if the club can deliver the 'energy' neeed to play his style.
Yeah, he is one of the few players we have with the intelligence and integrity to give such an account. On the other hand, and for the same reasons, he probably would not be the one to do it.If Mata leaves the club, I would love to hear his take on the shitbirds that populated the dressing room this season.
He is probably too nice to point fingers, but it would be amazing to hear from him what actually happened.
Hopefully the days of mediocre players getting contract extensions are finally over.FFS....i certainly hope ETH doesn't give Wan Bissaka a contract extension
If you think McTominay is bad in midfield then just wait until you see him in defense.The Reddit breakdown on ten hag pages back raised some interesting points.
He likes to change players positions. Of the current squad McTominay is the most likely.
Maybe he can learn specific instructions and the system will protect him.If you think McTominay is bad in midfield then just wait until you see him in defense.
He looks shite in Scotland's defense compared to the other Scottish defenders. That's how bad he is.
You will be able to see the team play his style in the first preseason game, and for certain on match day 1. They might not play it particularly smoothly, commandingly or consistently, but it will be visible.How long do we think it will take ten Hag to get his ideas across and we start to see his style of play come to life?
So what you’re trying to say is we should place any expectations on our new manager? Yeh good luck with that…Can already tell who’ll be lapping up the leaks on here next season.
“But it’s the manager’s job to motivate”
“We finished 2nd under Ole with the same group of players”
Even after everything we’ve seen over the past few years, a decent chunk of the fanbase still fall into the same traps. It’s incredible.
It’s really no wonder the players are desperate to keep this going. £150k every week with no accountability. Board needs to stand with ETH when times are tough next season or else we’re fecked.
You don't know for certain those players will be different next season. Harry Maguire is certaintly no guarantee. Even Bruno might not be suited. The only one I see is Fred who could play in a Ten Hag system. And maybe Luke Shaw. You are really overhyping some of these players. Just being realistic here. Got to remember this team will have acquired the lowest premier league points in the clubs history. I know we had a decent previous 2 seasons but it isn't just the manager/coaching which was the reason we are fighting for 6th place. Ole certaintly had to go but you can't just blame him and the coaches soley for it.Agree that everyone shouldn’t have to have the same opinions, but I’m offering a bit of perspective. We might not think the squad is as good as we used to think it was but to go from that to thinking it’s complete and utter dogshit is pretty extreme. I’m quite certain the common opinion of players like Maguire, Fred, Shaw, Bruno etc. will be very different next season.
Like we did in rangnicks first game you mean? Pressed like he wanted but then suddenly fell of the cliff as the games went on… hopefully it’s different this time though and I’m confident it will be.You will be able to see the team play his style in the first preseason game, and for certain on match day 1. They might not play it particularly smoothly, commandingly or consistently, but it will be visible.
I’m waiting for the first leaks to come out about how the players are already unhappy with ten Hag after he orders them to come back for pre season 2 weeks earlier so he can implement his style and ideas quicker.Im waiting for the players to let him down or not be able to play the way he wants and then for some the idiotic fans to turn on him.
You know its bound to happen.