BluesJr
Owns the moral low ground
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Literally none of this has happened.Eriks honeymoon lasted a week at United....the in-fighting and leaks have begun earlier than I thought.
Literally none of this has happened.Eriks honeymoon lasted a week at United....the in-fighting and leaks have begun earlier than I thought.
Were you expecting Disney fantasy movie? It's a football club, players leave as they have other aspirations.Eriks honeymoon lasted a week at United....the in-fighting and leaks have begun earlier than I thought.
I am not saying that they dont press, i am saying that it is strongly not required. Ronaldo does press the defenders and GK but he cant do it game in, game out. But even then, it is not a big problem for ETH as he can use the wingers and midfielders to provide more pressure. A CF's key need is to be the main finisher, so ETH will use Ronaldo in that manner.
From Cristiano Ronaldo’s departure will hurt but now Manchester United can move forward (theguardian.com)Ten Hag is a classic Ajax coach; he plays hard-pressing football. Excluding centre-backs, Ronaldo attempted fewer pressures than any other outfield player in Europe’s top five leagues last season. Those two details do not – cannot – go together. There is a fundamental disconnect that cannot be reconciled. No coach who wants to play modern football can accommodate Ronaldo. Perhaps a more reactive manager like Diego Simeone or a star-whisperer like Carlos Ancelotti could get something out of him (although you suspect Simeone’s demand for self-sacrifice would soon create issues) but no pressing coach could.
I might missed the infighting, can you fill me in on that one?Eriks honeymoon lasted a week at United....the in-fighting and leaks have begun earlier than I thought.
Call me Sir.Any bets on when people will call him "Erik ten Hack"?
After 20 minutes against BrightonAny bets on when people will call him "Erik ten Hack"?
You have missed @M4YON v. @Zaphod2319 in the transfer tweet thread for United?I might missed the infighting, can you fill me in on that one?
Yup, was it good?You have missed @M4YON v. @Zaphod2319 in the transfer tweet thread for United?
Me? Think you've confused me for someone elseYou have missed @M4YON v. @Zaphod2319 in the transfer tweet thread for United?
It takes two. I just ignored that post.You have missed @M4YON v. @Zaphod2319 in the transfer tweet thread for United?
I am expecting top 6 next year with better football. There will be surprising ups and lows. It takes time for players to play the EtH way. I expect a machine in the 2nd season with some more signings.What are your expectations going into the season? If we end up signing the 3-4 players we have been linked with, top 4 is possible. Not easy, given that our top 4 'rivals' have also strengthened so far. But not impossible.
I think he'll take at least half of the season to implement his ideas to a fair degree. We haven't played possession based football in a long time, and I expect a lot of our current players to struggle initially.
Top 4 would be incredible though since we can kick on, and sign quality players next summer.
When we arrive on tour you'd expectWhen is his next press conference? No shortage of bollocks to talk about already.
This is what you said:Makes a mockery of my comments how? Even if he brings in McClaren who knows English football, it only means that he has an assistant who knows English football and can give him advice. ETH still hasnt experienced the Premier League and doesn't know it. ETH clearly said when he met the press that after listening to people then he "would draw his own lines". So no matter how much McClaren knows English football and can give advice ETH would still need to listen. So when ETH has drawn his own line and decided that Martinez is the central defender he brings in, he clearly still haven't clued himself up on what the Premier League it's physical play is about.
You are insinuating that a man known for being ultra-prepared hasn't done his research. That he hasn't a clue what the Premiership is all about. And I'm telling you that it is precisely because he doesn't have firsthand experience that he's brought McClaren in. Not only that, he does have some idea what to expect as well. He is not some noob fresh off the boat. Here's what he said about Guardiola a couple of years ago:So a few days until the teams go on tour and the biggest concern for many fans are that the club hasnt landed any signings. I agree that it is a big problem, but dig a bit deeper, and there is a concern that is just as big. I might be blasted for this, but when looking at what players that are linked in, then I think the new manager and his lack of Premier League experience is a bigger concern.
4. Lisandro Martinez. A 1.75 m tall or should i say short central defender. This is for me the biggest clue that ETH hasn't done his research about what the Premier League is. ... Yes, the big clubs in the Eredivisie can get away with it, as they are much more dominant and all clubs there play the dutch way, but in the Premier League most teams have a physical element of their game and they use it. Consider that Lindeløf is 1.87 m tall and struggles in the arial duels, do anyone actually think that Martinez would thrive in the Premier League. Please let him go to Arsenal.
SourceOnly once in his career has Pep made a mistake – in his first year at Manchester City when he completely underestimated the power and speed of the Premier League," Ten Hag told Voetbal International.
"He realised that you can't play the kind of football he loves without having a couple of physically strong athletes – and so he brought them in.
It is evidence enough that he is trying to sign a 1.75 m tall central defender. Maybe I didn't put any more evidence than that, but please name any class central defender in the Premier League that has been lower than 1.80 m. I don't think there are many of them, if there are anyone at all. Just in those numbers there is evidence enoughYour post (both this one and the original one) is full of assumptions and holes not backed by evidence.
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Fabio Cannavaro 1.76 and he would do nicely if he was 24, It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dogIt is evidence enough that he is trying to sign a 1.75 m tall central defender. Maybe I didn't put any more evidence than that, but please name any class central defender in the Premier League that has been lower than 1.80 m. I don't think there are many of them, if there are anyone at all. Just in those numbers there is evidence enough
He might be as prepared as he could and Steve McClaren is around, but still he hasn't experienced the Premier League himself. And even if he knows that Guardiola underestimatet it, it doesn't mean that ETH knows excactly how physical brutal the league can be. Guardiola is known for being extremely methodical and prepared, I'm quite sure he had researched the Premier League in detail, he also brought in Arteta because he had played in the Premier League and knew the league. Still Guardiola underestimated how physical it was. Can you be sure that ETH doesn't do the same thing?
ETH can be as methodical he can be, as detailed as he can be. But when Guardiola underestimated the physicality of the league it only shows that even if a manager/head coach redearch the league down to the finest details he still has to manage/coach in the league and experience it to really understand how extremely phyiscal it is. ETH hasn't done that yet. So yeah it was overboard to say that he didn't research the league, he probably has done tons of research, but the thing is central defenders shorter than 1.80 m (maybe even 1.83) will struggle in this league. So even if he has researched the league in mesmerizing detail, he won't have 100% knowledge before actually coaching in the league, and ETH lacks the experince.
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Would be pretty fecking weird if notThe clouds are moving faster than some of our players.
@The Stain copied over from the Malacia thread.Tweet
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Nicola Milenkovic 1.95m seems to be in the 15m rangeIt is not even up to Ten Hag to spot opportunities on the transfermarket. What is our scouting department up to? Why aren't they finding us some 1.90m defenders with good build up ability?
Our own eccentric Pep Guardiola is my idolHe’s so wonderfully awkward.
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I'm gonna start ending all my sentences with "henh" the way EtH does.
:vomit:Our own eccentric Pep Guardiola is my idol
Have to admit, this bit concerns me a little. If the brief is to find players familiar with ETH's methods so we can be up and running as quickly as possible, then fine. But if it's to find only a certain profile of player, then it is concerning.It is not even up to Ten Hag to spot opportunities on the transfermarket. What is our scouting department up to? Why aren't they finding us some 1.90m defenders with good build up ability?
I can't post media links currently but if you look at @UtdFaithfuls on Twitter, there's a recent training video where the players are doing a passing drill and in the background Erik can be heard saying "too many mistakes". If someone can link it so everyone else can see.
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the big attention to detail that he keeps saying over and over again is which foot they are playing the ball to for the guys who are playing that negative setting of the ball.....if you keep playing to the wrong foot, it doesn't help with the speed of play but also can result in poor setting of the ballTweet
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