Yeah, Yeah, I like this guy.
Erik ten Hag - Manchester United manager
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
What’s really noticeable is how many options and players we have forward on every attack. It’s like a line of 5 players against their back line.
To be fair minute 1 to 90 is a training session.
That would be madness. We sell our only actual striker and replace him with a winger?
Also, counting on Martial is the definition of insanity. Doing the same thing all over again, expecting a different result. It's been what 6,7 years now? Maybe Phil Jones will eventually come good, as well.
I really don’t know what his ceiling is, not a clue. He kind of strikes me as another Will Keane or Wilson. The fact he’s not on tour should say something about his chances of playing for the first team next season though.
Hahaha wow! That’s a badass coach right there. The players aren’t going to have it easy any more. That much is obvious. Gotta earn that big money.
That’s quality!
I bet these are the old habits ETH is referring to. ETH would probably always expect de gea to pass to the full back or someone in the backline in order to retain possession. De Gea just resorted to old habits of lumping it (which often come straight back at us). We’ve conceded so many goals from unforced errors by our defence/GK.
Old habit is hard to die. De Gea must have some sort of PTSD.
He's no magician and it's clear that we have a lot of players who aren't good enough technically for the football he's trying to play.
He has massively improved our fitness levels and our off the ball movement though and it's a joy to behold after years of zombie football.
He has massively improved our fitness levels and our off the ball movement though and it's a joy to behold after years of zombie football.
So relatable.
I'm really impressed with what I've seen so far, but I think some are getting a bit carried away. He's got us passing quicker and got some actual running off the ball happening with the forwards. We are pressing in a reasonable way but we will still potentially be found out by better teams.
That's why I'm not getting carried away, because Erik has managed to get across probably the simplest pattern of play he had in his armoury. What I understand he was able to do with his Ajax team was to be able to adopt 3 or 4 different formations within a game to keep the opponents guessing and vary his approach.
We might be lucky and it may take a while before a team figures us out, or it could be the first week if we are unlucky. Either way it's important to keep in perspective any early defeats or setbacks. Right now I'll settle for good spells of play, good interactions and levels of intensity and effort from the team. If those can continue and grow then we will get somewhere.
My only other concern is the fragility of mindset of some of these players who have shown promise under Erik but been very inconsistent before....eg Martial, Rashford etc. I hope they can maintain that in adversity as well as when receiving praise.
That's why I'm not getting carried away, because Erik has managed to get across probably the simplest pattern of play he had in his armoury. What I understand he was able to do with his Ajax team was to be able to adopt 3 or 4 different formations within a game to keep the opponents guessing and vary his approach.
We might be lucky and it may take a while before a team figures us out, or it could be the first week if we are unlucky. Either way it's important to keep in perspective any early defeats or setbacks. Right now I'll settle for good spells of play, good interactions and levels of intensity and effort from the team. If those can continue and grow then we will get somewhere.
My only other concern is the fragility of mindset of some of these players who have shown promise under Erik but been very inconsistent before....eg Martial, Rashford etc. I hope they can maintain that in adversity as well as when receiving praise.
I heard Charlie too.
It's Charlie, seen the video really slowed down.
I agree with a lot of what you said, but this where ETH has to turn boys into men. He needs to find leaders among what he has. If he doesn't, he will need to bring in some in the next few windows.
All I know so far, that even though he has been implenting what should be the basics of football in passing, its taken us how many managers to do it? LVG, had the team passing the ball with no venom.
Even if expectations aren't met among most here, he needs the time and some money to get the key players to push forward.
I dont know much about Martinez, but I'm hoping he is has leadership capabilities. It only takes 2 or 3 imposing characters to keep a tight ship when things aren't going our way.
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Yesss, we’re here to play football
Or FrenchWas definitely Charlie.
I see he has no problem communicating in English!
I cant hear David at all. Sounds like Charlie.
Could be Charlie as he moves ahead and wasn’t available for pass when the ball was played back.
Some of you must need hearing aids. It's clearly Charlie.
Classic case of people hearing what they want to hear..
Yeah it was Charlie because he never gave DDG an option.
The way he's got us playing, I know it's only pre season but it's a cause for optimism.
Add Lisandro, Eriksen and hopefully FDJ we should be looking really good. Here's to hoping we find a way to get rid of Ronaldo.
The way he's got us playing, I know it's only pre season but it's a cause for optimism.
Add Lisandro, Eriksen and hopefully FDJ we should be looking really good. Here's to hoping we find a way to get rid of Ronaldo.
He was also screaming Amad Amad, run run... this was during a counter attack around 85 mins. Noticed Elanga started sprinting on the other side as well
It's definitely Charlie...
It's definitely "Frenkie". He had the daily phone call with him.
Thing is, this is a squad that got 2nd two years ago and 6th last year. When he's taken that and added the fitness and improved the off-ball movement, even this squad can do something most haven't believed in for a while. When you think of the games last we should have won but drew, and the games we should have drawn but lost, and the games we should have won but struggled and lost... just tip those a bit in our favor and the points start adding up quickly.
It would be interesting to see what the % of fans would prefer Ronaldo to leave now after how the team is playing
I predict that Man United will finish higher in the table than Liverpool this season.
No idea I thought he would be this good.
There’s improvement through coaching on every player from de gea to Martial.
There’s improvement through coaching on every player from de gea to Martial.
Tbh I wanted him gone last season as well. In fact, I never really wanted him to join, could see the red flags from a mile away.
I predict Liverpool finish second this season...
I think Ole would have left a much better legacy if he resigned after that Europa League final, stating he had gone as far as he could with this squad. He would have been remembered MUCH more fondly without the last season.
https://www.espn.com/soccer/manches...-wont-let-a-world-tour-get-in-the-way-of-that
After Ole and Ralf, we need this type of intensity. Singular focus on how you can be your best self.
After Ole and Ralf, we need this type of intensity. Singular focus on how you can be your best self.
Don't mean to bash Ole but the difference in having a manager shouting instructions from the technical area during the game as opposed to sitting in the dugout watching the game on an ipad and staying quiet no matter what is huge.
Love this
Love it.
True. But most managers are usually pushed out rather than willingly leave.