Erik ten Hag - Manchester United manager

[fastwalker]

I thought it might take a while, but I had no idea how deep the rot had set in at United. We still have to play Liverpool, Chelsea City, Arsenal and Spurs twice this season. Our season could well be over by January at this rate.

 

[el3mel]

56 million for bringing back Marcos Rojo

Rojo had some good games though.

 

[Mike Smalling]

It has been a big mistake though. Eriksen has been majorly at fault for two goals because he doesn't really have that appreciation of what's around him when receiving the ball in that position. It's a very hard position to play as you have to be really aware of what's around you and be brave.

Sure, but I honestly could have seen Fred make the same mistake with the absolute daft passes De Gea makes. In fact we have seen that several times. McTominay wouldn't make the mistake, because he simply wouldn't show for the ball.

 

[Amadaeus]

I'm not judging him, or any manager, until we get rid of majority of this squad.

After spending near or over billion to assemble this squad, it isn't going to happen anytime soon. Better to get a manager that has a good track record of improving good/decent players, and slowly build around the new players brought in. If Henderson and Milner can have a turn around in careers, alot of the players in our squad can as well especially with a good manager

 

[BlueHaze]

It seems no matter the manager, Maguire, Bruno, Rashford and McTominay play.

This really stinks.

Exactly. Ten Hag was my first choice. You can even look at my history. Long before season started I said if he gives a fresh start to all the cnuts it'll be the end of him.

I never thought he'd be that daft but he actually was and he did. What will happen now is he's already under big pressure with a tough run of games and he'll likely get sacked before the season ends.

 

[PlayerOne]

Let's bring in a manager that is not very involved in transfers and ask him to go out there and get players.

What chance did he really have this year under this shambolic and clueless board and DoF?

Of course ETH overestimated his ability and the ability of this team when any fan could have told him those lot out there have no right to wear this shirt. Of course the DoF should be the one laying this out but here we are.

 

[Leftback99]

Odds at 9/1+ for top 4 after 2 games.

 

[el3mel]

Our next 7 games in the league are :

Liverpool H
Southampton A
Leicester A
Arsenal H
Palace A
Leeds H
City A

Can see us losing pretty much every one of them bar Leeds.

Ten Hag to get sacked after that City game.

 

[izec]

Odds at 9/1+ for top 4 after 2 games.

Money lost. Relegation is more realistic than top 4 at this point

 

[Rightnr]

Our next 7 games in the league are :

Liverpool H
Southampton A
Leicester A
Arsenal H
Palace A
Leeds H
City A

Can see us losing pretty much every one of them bar Leeds.

Ten Hag to get sacked after that City game.

We don't win away games (we also don't draw them), so you can chalk those As as Ls right now. Bloody hell.

 

[Leftback99]

Money lost. Relegation is more realistic than top 4 at this point

I agree.

 

[Dosse]

Have the balls to drop every single one who is making a fool of them selves. If not, please go!

 

[amolbhatia50k]

Let's bring in a manager that is not very involved in transfers and ask him to go out there and get players.

What chance did he really have this year under this shambolic and clueless board and DoF?

Of course ETH overestimated his ability and the ability of this team when any fan could have told him those lot out there have no right to wear this shirt. Of course the DoF should be the one laying this out but here we are.

That's what happens when you have John Murtough and Darren Fletcher with no pedigree between them running the show

 

[DJ_21]

Our next 7 games in the league are :

Liverpool H
Southampton A
Leicester A
Arsenal H
Palace A
Leeds H
City A

Can see us losing pretty much every one of them bar Leeds.

Ten Hag to get sacked after that City game.

You reckon? Took us months to sack Solskjær and that was after getting a good thrashing from Liverpool and the fans walking out first halve. Don’t think ten Hag will be sacked, if he leaves then it’s because he’s walked. He’s the right man for us but we’ve got the wrong team for him…

 

[DickDastardly]

Hope he had enough of looking and evaluating.

If he starts any of Maguire or Shaw he loses my belief he could turn us around.

 

[Cassidy]

You think the club should have payed 70m quid on Antony??

I think the club should have signed an alternative. They haven’t signed a single attacking player

 

[R'hllor]

When people get what they deserve, thats good to see in general.

 

[PlayerOne]

That's what happens when you have John Murtough and Darren Fletcher with no pedigree between them running the show

Pretty much. I saw this coming as did many other fans. Both have no right to be those positions.

They will throw the manager under the bus and bring in Poch then it's another clean slate for the players with many PR pieces in the press on how lessons were learnt from this summer.

 

[Amira]

If Malacia doesn't start the next match, Ten hag might as well be any of the previous 2 coaches.

 

[Cassidy]

Antony would have been another shockingly poor signing.

Besides the point.

 

[pascell]

Our next 7 games in the league are :

Liverpool H
Southampton A
Leicester A
Arsenal H
Palace A
Leeds H
City A

Can see us losing pretty much every one of them bar Leeds.

Ten Hag to get sacked after that City game.

Southampton, Leicester and Palace will be plucky draws at best. Liverpool, Arsenal and City will be hammering and Leeds our only plausible W.

 

[Big Ben Foster]

I thought it might take a while, but I had no idea how deep the rot had set in at United. We still have to play Liverpool, Chelsea City, Arsenal and Spurs twice this season. Our season could well be over by January at this rate.

Our season was over before it started

 

[Leftback99]

Southampton, Leicester and Palace will be plucky draws at best. Liverpool, Arsenal and City will be hammering and Leeds our only plausible W.

Leeds are playing well.

 

[#07]

Pretty much. I saw this coming as did many other fans. Both have no right to be those positions.

They will throw the manager under the bus and bring in Poch then it's another clean slate for the players with many PR pieces in the press on how lessons were learnt from this summer.

Yup. We can all see it coming now can't we?

The fact the Glazers will be fine with it too just shows they couldn't give a crap about the club.

If I inherited a club and I had no idea what to do with it. I would, at the very least, try to get the most experienced management team in place. The fact that they can have CVs like Murtough's recommended to them and approve shows they don't give a s-t.

 

[Jed I. Knight]

Pretty much. I saw this coming as did many other fans. Both have no right to be those positions.

They will throw the manager under the bus and bring in Poch then it's another clean slate for the players with many PR pieces in the press on how lessons were learnt from this summer.

Exactly.

Set up to fail by the ineptitude of those above him, as I said a month or two back. This thread is full of people expressing the same sentiment.

Cannot believe any sensible fan who’s been following the club since Fergie left can even entertain the notion of blaming the current manager for the mess we’re in.

 

[Massive Spanner]

Martinez looks like an unbelievably silly signing right now, given how much of our budget he ate up.

 

[jesperjaap]

Stop overreacting with "De Boer vibes", "ETH is already a failure" or other nonsense. It's his 2nd game in charge and he inherited a completely broken team. We have been a laughing stock for 10 years now, did you expect him to come here and magically fix it immediately? IF he manages to achieve something here (and of course there are no guarantees that he will), it will take quite some time to see progress.

I agree with what you are saying.....but there is some relevance in what people are sayign generally, if not for Ten Hag.

Though the premiership has become far more technical and about possesion football, building from the back over the last 5-7years, making it more European than before, it is still a mr eindividual league than the others.

But there has been over confidence I feel in people expecting Ten Hag and systems, coaching of these players etc etc to imrpvoe us greatly and compete. Total football and success in the dutch league doesnt gurantee it in this league, has there even been a successful dutch manager here? Also the coaching and tactival genius....Rangnick is tactically astute and intelligent, yet failed (I think it was a msitake for Ten Hag not to consult him too), Mourinho though maybe out of date was a good tactician, Van Gall was an excellent tactical manager....they all failed.

The ownership, management, state of ground, coaching has all failed over the last ten years....it all contributes.

For me the biggest determining factor over any for our failure though has been recruitment of players, keep in them and giving them new contracts and failure to sell them.

And that is what worries me currently, whether its the faiure of the negotiating team, scouts, owners or manager.....what we have done so far this window almost gurantees we stand still. Could be argued we needed 9/10 new players thsi summer, but realistically a centre back, right back, two central midfiedlers for the picot, a right winger and a striker would be the most important signings.........we have only signed a player for ONE of those positions and signed TWO for positions that werent such a priority....that is pure madness....of course Martinez may flop and the other two may excel, you still have to get the right plaeyrs, but to go 3/4 seasons now and not sign a proper central midfielders is suicidal when we have needed two for that whole time

 

[Knux]

Lets throw another manager under the bus and keep the circus going shall we?

 

[VanHaal'sRedArmy]

He's gonna have to recalibrate - this lot aren't up to his level.

 

[el3mel]

At least give the youngsters some chances you coward.

 

[Rightnr]

Donny on for the last 5. Someone edit that meme with the mask and swap EtH for OGS.

 

[Beachryan]

Give. Him. Time.

He's a proven, intelligent, good coach.

We have to give him 2 seasons. We need the board to come out and say that too. This is not a quick project.

 

[mikeyt]

We're at rock bottom, literally in the league! We've got 2 and half weeks to back ETH in the market and seriously overhaul this squad, but based on what he's seen from the senior players surely, he's got to be thinking the younger lads are worth a crack. Garner, Hannibal, Garnacho etc we cannot be any worse.

 

[hellhunter]

Give. Him. Time.

He's a proven, intelligent, good coach.

We have to give him 2 seasons. We need the board to come out and say that too. This is not a quick project.

He'll not make it to two months if we don't improve drastically and quickly

 

[el3mel]

We're at rock bottom, literally in the league! We've got 2 and half weeks to back ETH in the market and seriously overhaul this squad, but based on what he's seen from the senior players surely, he's got to be thinking the younger lads are worth a crack. Garner, Hannibal, Garnacho etc we cannot be any worse.

Yet he ignores all of them and chooses to play Elanga out of all people.

Coward.

 

[MyDevil]

He needs to be brave and drop the seniors, including the captain in the next game.

 

[PlayerOne]

Yup. We can all see it coming now can't we?

The fact the Glazers will be fine with it too just shows they couldn't give a crap about the club.

If I inherited a club and I had no idea what to do with it. I would, at the very least, try to get the most experienced management team in place. The fact that they can have CVs like Murtough's recommended to them and approve shows they don't give a s-t.

That's because they're actually awful business men. Under their leadership this club, their biggest asset, is sinking in every sense. They're just riding along thinking it's fine.

That's the advantage of being miles away in a different timezone with little to no media attention.

Only hope here is someone comes in with offer and the fans put enough pressure on them to sell.

 

[Slevs]

He's not gonna last long if he thinks Maguire and Dalot should be starting for us.

 

[harms]

I can’t believe that people are really writing him off, especially since we’ve seen how this squad crumbles under pressure regardless of who the manager is.

Short-term criticism is alright, he barely did anything right man-management-wise, but we’re yet to see how he would proceed to implement his vision.

 

[Knux]

At least give the youngsters some chances you coward.

I dont know if its fair to throw them in a PL game when you’re 4-0 down. Dont get me wrong, we have nothing to loose. But I would rather start youngsters with absolutely no PL experience the next game. And I really hope EtH does that from start next game.

Would like to see Savage, Iqbal and maybe Hannibal from start!