Not a chance will they kick out 6 of their biggest clubs from the league. They'll be watering down their own product. Imagine the amount of TV loss Sky would face without them!.That would be fine if we are not all kicked out of the PL. Then it isn't.
Its not just me that doesn't like it though is it? Its millions of football fans who actually the watch the games and are pretty much unanimously against the proposal.Why don't we bring in the army while we're at it.
Just because you don't like something doesn't mean you should go crying to daddy to make it stop.
Money was the driving force behind the PL forming in 92, that was a literal break away league but now we want to replace the CL with a different European competition it's a problem? Sky talk about football like it didn't exist before 92. Leeds won the league in 91, no one gives a shit. Clubs that generate big money will always follow it, regardless of what we think.If you want to separate yourself from them because you think you're inherently better and more worthy than them, yes..? There's a big difference between football tribalism and 'banter' and wanting to start your own, exclusive 'super' league ffs. It's funded by JP Morgan mate, can you seriously not see that money is the only driving force behind this?
I’m the same. Found the outrage a bit performative initially but am fully on board myself now. Every time I read the phrase “founding clubs” my blood pressure increases. I think what most pisses me off is the way we’ve decided to become lifelong besties with the likes of Liverpool, Arsenal and Chelsea. Plus Spurs being allowed to think of themself as one of the big boys. Feck that shit.Yeah, before realising this was actually something that could realistically happen yesterday, that's the feeling I had, just tonnes of virtue signalling and faux moral outrage. But now it seems it's actually happening, and in terms of sporting integrity, it's just ludicrous.
Suppose the clubs had some evidence of corruption in UEFA and released it. Would it change the minds of anyone against ESL? I think not.https://thesuperleague.com/
Unless this is fake that suggests it will only replace the Champions League. And if that's true I'm all for it. UEFA is corrupt to the core and make so much money off the back of the clubs. It's about time there was a shake up really. Although I still think there should be an independent body, rather than club owners managing the league.
Left what?Chelsea have left now as well. So they are going all in.
The financial implications of not kicking them out would be much worse in the long run. Banning them is probably a viable option right now.Not a chance will they kick out 6 of their biggest clubs from the league. They'll be watering down their own product. Imagine the amount of TV loss Sky would face without them!.
I've just seen the CL "reform plans" and this seems like just a big of a joke anyway. Football is dead from 2024.
Surely someone somewhere knew this was in full swing and did nothing about it? Have UEFA tried to call the teams bluff? I'd love to know the detailsChelsea have left now as well. So they are going all in.
Quite the drastic negotiation tactic, though?I assume it's just a cash grab targeted at UEFA's CL/EL restructuring. They want a stronger negotiating hand in that argument - that is to say, they want to be allowed to dictate more of the format, finance and timing.
It's understandable - they are the fundraisers and UEFA probably forget that. Even if they back off now, it's a warning that we'll be hearing these threat driven restructuring negotiations for a while.
If it's supposed to be serious attempt to recreate European football on the image of the US franchise model, then it sucks and I hope they get hammered in the fallout.
It’s pretty fecking disgusting.United are the best example of why this is happening. A team whose owners' concerns are solely financial to the point where the team has been neglected enough to be missing out on the top European stage year after year despite mass commercial appeal, so they just create a competition where you don't have to worry about qualifying. They don't care about the competition or the history of the game.
We are the RINGLEADERS. Ed Woodward's old mates at JP Morgan are funding this whole atrocity.The Super League is not good news.
We should not join the rebel clubs.
It's supposed to start in August.Does anyone know what the time frames of this will be?
The ESL said the season will start as soon "as practicable". I think the English teams are playing a straight bat at the moment and assuming (or pretending) that they will still be involved in domestic league football. It is inevitable they will be threatened with expulsion although the Super League teams have already considered that no doubt. The fact that all the riches clubs in Europe bar PSG and Munich have signed up makes them think the domestic leagues cannot afford to throw them out.....we will see.
Are there no contracts with the TV broadcaster that have to be honoured e.g. Sky? BT? If clubs are thrown out of the Premiership then would Sky have a legal claim to claw back some of the money they have paid out?
Half the fun is seeing your rivals get relegated or struggle. That won't happen now.Not sure why United fans are all of a sudden concerned about the fidelity of the lower league teams. No one was balling their eyes out when City got relegated, or Leeds failed to qualify to the PL. As a fan of football and Manchester United I want what's best for United and the sport but I couldn't give a shit about these teams that don't want us to exist but all of a sudden need us
Is there much to discuss or agree at this point? It seems like it's done and dusted?I assume it's just a cash grab targeted at UEFA's CL/EL restructuring. They want a stronger negotiating hand in that argument - that is to say, they want to be allowed to dictate more of the format, finance and timing.
It's understandable - they are the fundraisers and UEFA probably forget that. Even if they back off now, it's a warning that we'll be hearing these threat driven restructuring negotiations for a while.
If it's supposed to be serious attempt to recreate European football on the image of the US franchise model, then it sucks and I hope they get hammered in the fallout.
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Yeah, I honestly do. Solskjaer has done a good job, but he knows that he is lucky to be at the club and that he even got his shot at the job. Believe me, he's not about to walk away from all that.Do you really think that? Ole is a fan of this club in the same way as Neville and Keane are, who have clearly shared their feelings on the matter. I'm sure he will feel exactly the same as them.
Add to that, that there's a always a chance our season will now be derailed. We could be kicked our of the Europa League and who knows what could happen in the league - it adds a whole sense of worthlessness to the season just past.
Despite not winning anything up to this point, Ole is making great progress with this team and the season so far has been a huge achievement for him (may or may not be good enough but it's his best season as a manager). This could all be stripped away from him and the players without a moments notice just so that we can go play in some fantasy league for a bit of extra cash.
Amazon?I wonder which TV networks are in on this? There must have been negotiations going on already. Have Sky been left out in the cold?
They'll either have their own streaming service for it, or are working with Amazon.I wonder which TV networks are in on this? There must have been negotiations going on already. Have Sky been left out in the cold?
Call me strange but I get more enjoyment out of United winning things than watching City get relegated. I mean, yeah, it's funny but the competition is devalued when the best teams and players don't compete. Plus, someone has to be the whipping boys of the SL, that could be funny as long as it's not United?Half the fun is seeing your rivals get relegated or struggle. That won't happen now.
The premier league are a different entity to Uefa all together. England can still have a premier league alongside a super league - eventually though I imagine domestic leagues will be marginalised and the super league will become the big thing.The financial implications of not kicking them out would be much worse in the long run. Banning them is probably a viable option right now.
Yep, that figures, American.They'll either have their own streaming service for it, or are working with Amazon.
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Ah I see, wow they mean business then.The European Club Association
The PL still had the same structure with promotion/relegation and clubs were inherited from the Football League. Just a rebranding.Money was the driving force behind the PL forming in 92, that was a literal break away league but now we want to replace the CL with a different European competition it's a problem?
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Needs to be a reaction from the players and managers.I still refuse to believe this will actually happen. The universally negative reaction will cause at least a few of the twelve to get cold feet and pull out.
Think they expected it. They prepared this for years. This will go ahead.Covid accelerated it, but i am sure they wanted toI still refuse to believe this will actually happen. The universally negative reaction will cause at least a few of the twelve to get cold feet and pull out.
