They don't give a shit about the lower leagues unfortunately.
European Super League
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
Not In Ireland, they didn't
No club will be banned from the prem, or CL, or Europa etc. All hogwash. No player will be banned from world cup or euros either.
I mean, if you banned all those clubs players' from the world cup or euros, most squads would be so much weaker, and the tournament would be shite i suspect.
The domestic leagues and european ones need the fans and the big clubs, more than we need them. The ESL will likely happen. But the prem will suffer in so much that top 4 isnt that big of a deal for the big clubs now... can finish 17th and still be in the Super League and make about 300m
I mean, if you banned all those clubs players' from the world cup or euros, most squads would be so much weaker, and the tournament would be shite i suspect.
The domestic leagues and european ones need the fans and the big clubs, more than we need them. The ESL will likely happen. But the prem will suffer in so much that top 4 isnt that big of a deal for the big clubs now... can finish 17th and still be in the Super League and make about 300m
Because the Spurs/Arsenal brand and fan base will lead to success with the proposed cash injection. It worked with City and Chelsea, who were nowhere near the brand/fan base levels of Arsenal and Spurs.A friend of mine remarked that 20 years ago, Blackburn and Newcastle would've been in the Super League. Spurs wouldn't. Maybe Valencia or Deportivo in Spain, maybe Sampdoria or Napoli in Italy.
Still doesn't explain why Spurs are there when they've won feck all.
Anyone taking any shots or posting false equivalence posts at the people who are trying to band together to stop this need to take a good hard long look at themselves.
Now is not the time for rivalries tribalism and whatever else.
Now is not the time for rivalries tribalism and whatever else.
The romantic glow around Liverpool has certainly been put out for the foreseeable future.
They should follow the F1 model, the ones bringing the best sponsors get in.
Except every fan in the country doesn't feel that way. And those players/managers, while are not involved in decision making, have a lot more to lose in this issue than just some random fan who can change his mind tomorrow.
This is a very serious and complex issue and I'd like to hear a whole lot more from the 12 clubs involved before passing a judgment on what's really going on.
If they didn’t guarantee teams being there every year I imagine it would have been more acceptable to fans. Would kill the domestic leagues should it happen that way.
Yes indeed.
I can't believe expected more from Klopp, he was never going to come out with anything more than he did.
Sky sounding like a bitter ex after losing the CL broadcasting rights and worried they’ll lose more.
But why would clubs agree to it if it got them banned from their regular European competition ?
Being a permanent member guarantees money + a competition to play in.. What if Ajax agree one season.. dont qualify for the next 3 and have no money or european football?
Surely no decent side will agree to be part of those 5 rolling spots
Neither will any of the other 6 managers.
That's a good point. I always understood it was 75%, though as @Berbaclass says I've since heard it said 14 clubs. Maybe they mean that for one club to do anything they have to get another 14 to agree with them? I don't know.
On the other hand would the Italian and Spanish clubs be protected in their leagues? I don't know that either
UEFA needs to be checked, my problem with this is the proposal, not the attempt to breakaway.
Can't wait for Marseille brought to you by Amazon at the Prime Velodrome
Leeds should wait until the whistle blows and just walk off. Followed by any other teams who have to play against the 6 for the rest of the season. See how long the league can continue under those conditions, and send a clear message that if they want football to be meaningless then it can be.
Couldn't agree more.
The biggest point is the mode of contest, which the "Super League" changes without anyone outside the executive board asking for it.
I just remember for the null and void stuff they needed 14 clubs to agree to void the season last year.That's a good point. I always understood it was 75%, though as @Berbaclass says I've since heard it said 14 clubs. Maybe they mean that for one club to do anything they have to get another 14 to agree with them? I don't know.
On the other hand would the Italian and Spanish clubs be protected in their leagues? I don't know that either
Jurgen Klopp speaks on The Super League
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Anyone see Bruno's tweet. My fecking captain!
i think thats one issue, theres no "fight to qualify" so to speak like there is with CL. And the race for top 4. Youre in regardless, and wont ever be out of it, unless youre one of the 5 random sides. And obviously then the 12 sides in Super league will almost have fantasy football levels of finances, and will absolutely dominate their domestic leagues at a canter.
The other 14 prem clubs if it happens, are utterly fecked competitively
People arguing that since UEFA are hardly reputable that somehow that diminishes the arguments against the Super League.
It's a closed competition not based on merit vs. A competition that is at least open to all.
UEFA not being pure isn't a fecking reason to support a franchise model designed to exclude everyone who isn't deemed elite.
Give me a break.
It's a closed competition not based on merit vs. A competition that is at least open to all.
UEFA not being pure isn't a fecking reason to support a franchise model designed to exclude everyone who isn't deemed elite.
Give me a break.
Bit too much outrage. Football and success have been bought by plastics for many years now. City? Chelsea? Even PSG. Where would they be without oil money pumped into them.
This is just another step in the direction football has been going for years.
This is just another step in the direction football has been going for years.
Klopp probably said more on the subject than any current top 6 coach would, unfortunately.
It sure looked like reality had punched him in the face tonight.
Yeah, it's been like this for decades now. 2005 was the death of the true Manchester United to me.
Take the phone off the hook, ffs.
His most recent Tweet is happy birthday to DVB.Anyone see Bruno's tweet. My fecking captain!
Someone answer the fecking phone.
The state of Steve 'Parklife' Parish talking around in circles and arguing for both sides at the same time
why can't it though? May be i missed the part but he doesn't say anything about the rule 9 stuff and most of his examples are about organizations stopping formation of other organization.
Here uefa seem to be more in retaliation mode, if you play for them you won't be picked for national team. How do you go to court and ask it to make sure your players are picked for their national team over players of other teams?
I know! That was fecking annoying that.
Yeah, absolutely hilarious. No point in having him on.The state of Steve 'Parklife' Parish talking around in circles and arguing for both sides at the same time
Yeah the PL got into bed with Russian gangsters, predatory billionaires with zero morals and middle eastern dictatorships. That was ok as long as they were reaping the rewards. This is the bed they made and now they'll have to lie in it.
Don’t see anything relevantAnyone see Bruno's tweet. My fecking captain!