The point would if the Govt made 50.1% fan ownership mandatory they would have to sell that stake to fans. They wouldn’t be allowed to keep it. In terms of the valuation that’s what would get tricky.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
Well I do know about that! It's not like clubs weren't serious, other than the sugar daddy clubs, everyone will suffer hard from the economic damages due to the pandemic and other than Chelsea and City, the owners run the club like a business instead of a project for other personal gains so they are feeling the heat.
It's just that this Super League set up was the ultimate or nuclear option. It really seems like ideally it would be used just as a pressure tool by the clubs in order to get more money and influence in the future CL. There's simply nothing concrete that would suggest a Super League would suddenly magically start next season. They've been planning for it for years, in general terms, but other than that... It would be a terrible idea from a business POV as well, they'd still have to negotiate a revolutionary broadcast deal in only a couple of weeks. More European matches while there's the COVID insecurity about filling the stadiums.
One of the most (if not the most) expensive sport enterprises in history, and all we've seen is a ridiculous name (countless of other organisations use the Super League name as well apparently), a lousy, cheap website, check it out https://thesuperleague.com, and Florentino Perez acting like my delusional uncle. In the meanwhile they've magically kept all these revolutionary plans a secret, since every journalist or other person involved in sports was just as surprised and taken aback by the idea as everyone on here. That just doesn't make sense.
On a sidenote, the weirdest thing I read today is that UEFA president Ceferin is/was supposed to be the godfather of Juventus chairman Agnelli's daughter. Which both makes for a lovely drama and perfectly illustrates how deeply intertwined all the top figures in top football are, with all the potential negative side effects from that.
All for it. I am a foreign fan, but if I was asked to contribute, I would chip in with pleasure. The leeches, the parasites showed their greed and utter stupidity once again. We know their colours and they won't change.
It's fecking comical how quickly this unraveled. That's what happens with a bunch of out of touch suits do everything in secret; there's no one around to point out how stupid your plan is.
Not to burst the bubble of the great news, but should we be worried about the "revenge of the glazers" over this? They could decide not to give Ole any money to strengthen the team. If they are pissed enough, they could let the club rot.
They spent £20bn on track and trace in like 3 months. It’s a very small loan in terms of Govt budgets. They wouldn’t even necessarily have to loan it either just offer a guarantee to a bank. A fan backed leveraged buyout would work much better than the glazers leveraged buyout.
Looks like United are pulling out as well.
A thousand times yes. Do not end this here, never forget what these cnuts have done to two institutions of European and English football. Arsenal too I guess. Clubs built on principles traditions values and ethos. Of people like Shankly Ferguson Busby Dalglish Fagan Paisley. They dragged us through the mud. They have to face a reckoning.
This was actually shambolic from everyone involved 
The fact that it fell apart so easily also shows the parties involved were never convinced themselves.
The fact that it fell apart so easily also shows the parties involved were never convinced themselves.
when the dust settles and Ed and the Glazers hopefully fecks off for ever, we will be stuck with a corrupted UEFA and an oil state club who buys the league every year. I hope there is also a solution to that problem.
You certainly weren't calm the night this shambles was announced, posting and responding to everyone. So take your pill and go watch some Classico highlights from 10 years ago.
It couldn't just be United, it would have to be for all clubs , it would cost a lot more than £20bn
Christ I just looked at their site. Musta been knocked up in a hurry
to join the super league and never have to be in Old Trafford again
Are we? I think the worth is about half what you say.
This has certainly been one of the craziest days in football history.
It's probably too late for that though, these owners are already here.
You might be able to legislate to stop future owners like this coming in, but not sure what legal grounds there are for imposing rules on these clubs who've already been bought.
It's their property at the end of the day.
I think its more they had convinced themselves the pushback would be a few upset supporter groups. And to be fair that is all it was in Spain and Italy.This was actually shambolic from everyone involved
The fact that it fell apart so easily also shows the parties involved were never convinced themselves.
But in the UK you had the people who own Chelsea's name and ground getting involved, players, managers the government. This is far beyond what they would have expected.
Especially the government. The likes of city and chelsea would be far, far more worried about compulsory fan involvement in the management of the club than any chance of not qualifying for champions league.
Should I have not responded to your posts? And I was perfectly calm actually and still am. Not sure why you're angry at me though, I didn't ask for the SL and I never said I was for it. It was always about an elite competition which I am still in favour for and I'm still in favour of United getting more of a cut than they currently do. But anyway, if you want to feel like you 'won' something then go ahead and revel, I'll pretend to be sad about all this and we'll all have a merry time.That is fecking amazing
Dont you think Champions League will be too important for them? They will miss out on a lot of money, if they do not reach top 4.
Perez must be fuming, couldnt have happened to a bigger cnut!
And this may well be what wakes everyone up to that, only good can come of this.
crossed my mind as well
I think that was the clubs who formed the ESL
As of 2020 the premier league teams were worth £14.7bn. Let’s say the football league teams add up to another £6bn. That’s £20.7bn.
50% would be £10bn. Fans could have a period of time to pay it back. Or as I said in another post the govt just backs bank loans as a guarantor to fans groups.
Today videogame-dream went away. Atleast for now. No QBforwards, No OLMidfielders, No penalty yards. No 65 min games. Just let him be. Though day.
Give over, you spent all night supporting this and giving everyone grief. You think people's memories are that short?
Forbes is very good at determining sporting clubs valuations. United are amongst the ten most valuable sporting clubs in the world, often in the top five.
https://www.forbes.com/teams/manchester-united/?sh=5b63529313f9
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Absolutely delighted with this news!
Hahaha. Piss off. You were for it.
No I didn't. That's what you thought because you and others were so anti-SL that anyone that wasn't anti was pro to you. I sat on the fence and offered an alternate opinion but I was damn clear about waiting to see what happened next before making a decision. Go back and check if you wantThanks. I was looking at market cap right now. I am not sure how they messaure everything. I need to read little bit about that, I guess.
Great message from KDB.
Shame the two biggest stars of football are still silent.
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The humiliation of this is pure cathartic nirvana.
Yeah don't tell me those from other clubs coming out now wanting to hammer the 6 aren't doing so for selfish, greedy reasons.
So transparent. Punish them all. We might become relevant. Feck off.