European Super League

Do you want the ESL to happen?


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Spoony

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Shut up man. I think that skys strategically placed slaughter of this Super League that hasn't in any way got the go-ahead and that we evidently know very little about is all to do with money.

They know that they are standing to lose the most on this.

They have an interest but Neville's reaction is how most fans have reacted. Why would his opinion not be similar or as passionate??
 

UncleBob

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Yeah that's right, football is rife with corruption. So of course the obvious answer is to double down on it. Sell it all off to private equity firms so they can finally kill the game of football in its entirety. Makes perfect sense.

Kroenke and Glazer are champions of the people. :lol: :lol:
Mint.

You've seen the CL revamp suggestions from UEFA, have you?
 

FlawlessThaw

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Aah I see, why didn’t Neville mention them in his rant?

How can it be a super league if city are in it? Not even joking they aren’t a big club.
He did I think, he said they and Chelsea are new money so he doesn't have great expectations of them doing the right thing.
 

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Clubs are nothing without players and fans. What players would sign for these clubs knowing you cant play in Euros or World Cup? Players have power, the message from players to the boards of the clubs might make these stupid owners who are only interested in vast profits see sense.

They should make an example of all the clubs involved and give them points deduction to get them out of top 4 places and allow other team to replace them. Take Citys PL title for this season away from them. That will teach them.

Just delusional greed nothing else.

Well done PSG, Dortmund Bayern for not signing up to this.
Do you really think players would choose to play in the more and more increasingly irrelevant international games, instead of trousering 250-300k or more in an even richer world?
 

Berbasbullet

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I’m assuming it will end up being an extra competition we are in? Probably a cup competition? Doesn’t seem like the end of the world but I guess we need to wait for an announcement.
 

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I love how Sky are getting on the high horse about this, as if they won’t be bidding big for the TV rights for matches to offer to customers on PPV!
If it gets the go ahead then it damages their main product.... the Premier League, as 6 of the biggest clubs would be banned.
 

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Lots of posturing from all sides. Everyone involved are just looking for more money with no care about football or fans. Some compromise will come out of it with big clubs getting bigger share of pie. Everyone will walk away as winners.
 

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Effectively gets around FFP in a legal way but for every team in the competition also. It's a case of "we couldn't beat them, so we joined them"
There won't be any real difference though.

Say all clubs get 500m a for joining, City still have the richest owners on top of that.
 

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Isn't the appeal of the CL the fact that these teams don't play each other every season?

This is the first time IIRC that Chelsea have played Madrid in years or at all. Then there is also the running history behind these games, the European "rivalries" you don't get every season. People still talk about those Madrid vs United games that Ronaldo dominated or the Bayern v Barcelona match ups.

That is going to be lost if you have Madrid vs Man Utd every season, twice a season.
You do know that UEFA is suggesting a complete revamp of the CL format beginning from 24...Introducing a league, with a shitload of matches, instead of group stages.
 

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What conspiracy? I think you're reading far too much into what I said. I'm talking about taking a healthy scepticism towards the current outrage on display on Sky.

Along with Sky, Neville has a vested interest as he works for Sky and he invests in a lower league team.
He does. But he is still right.
 

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People in here saying football is nothing without fans.

There's not a person on this forum that wouldn't pay £30 a month for ONE subscription to watch elite football on a weekly basis.
 

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Isn't the appeal of the CL the fact that these teams don't play each other every season?

This is the first time IIRC that Chelsea have played Madrid in years or at all. Then there is also the running history behind these games, the European "rivalries" you don't get every season. People still talk about those Madrid vs United games that Ronaldo dominated or the Bayern v Barcelona match ups.

That is going to be lost if you have Madrid vs Man Utd every season, twice a season.
Not to mention the money-spinning friendlies.
 

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I’m assuming it will end up being an extra competition we are in? Probably a cup competition? Doesn’t seem like the end of the world but I guess we need to wait for an announcement.
I would imagine that it would be an initial step to breaking off from domestic competitions. At some point they would want to be on at the weekends to get the largest viewing figures and would decide that playing Burnley doesn't sound that appealing when you can play Barcelona 4 times a year.
 

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Being against this isn't because you're pro Fifa or UEFA. It is because of how it would affect the fans, suddenly your club becomes some brand that has no connection to English football and plays for the highest bidder. How long would it be before these Super League games are being played in some huge money state instead of their home grounds.
 

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People in here saying football is nothing without fans.

There's not a person on this forum that wouldn't pay £30 a month for ONE subscription to watch elite football on a weekly basis.
I am Spartacus. I'm not going anywhere near this bullshit if it goes through, 'and you can quote me on it'.
 

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I'm against this completely, but I can see such a fundamental flaw in the league that will make it fail.

The teams that are proposedly entering, often win silverware in their respective leagues which give them such a big following. The majority of supporters follow teams that win consistently when they are young and build a bond to that team. I get there are a number of fans who do support local and don't care about the winning etc, but a lot of people simply do.

If you now had all these teams entering 1 league, how often would their fans see their club raise the trophy? Seriously - Real / Barca / Athletico / Bayern / City / Chelsea etc etc all fighting for one trophy...their fans would not accept it. They'd see teams like Leicester / Leverkussen etc win domestic leagues while their history gets eroded over time.

Nor would we see the rivalries we have become accustomed to over time.

Can see someone wants to do it, so many things against it.

Just revamp the champions league folks
 

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I would imagine that it would be an initial step to breaking off from domestic competitions. At some point they would want to be on at the weekends to get the largest viewing figures and would decide that playing Burnley doesn't sound that appealing when you can play Barcelona 4 times a year.
True, which obviously would kill the spectacle. At the same time I’d enjoy us waving two fingers at the FA. :lol: I can’t see it being a good idea mind.
 

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There won't be any real difference though.

Say all clubs get 500m a for joining, City still have the richest owners on top of that.
Yeah but the big teams won't mind if they're also getting a big whack of the money instead of watching Pep spend £1b on full backs and they're having to shop in the bargain bin
 

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Kick off times are irrelevant, people are moaning about Friday night kick offs, people just like to moan.
A small point, but kick off times are not irrelevant at all. Even with Europe, depending on where you're from some of the especially late ones are antisocial. Before we ended up in a Thursday - Sunday cycle, I was a season ticket holder at my local team, but kick offs at half fecking ten at night are piss take unless that fits your culture. Feck knows how those on the other side of the world (don't 12-hour pedant me) cope.
 

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I doubt this will actually happen for a variety of reasons but the hypocrisy of Sky and the PL is highly amusing.

In the unlikely event it does happen it’ll probably be the final straw for me.
 

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I doubt this will actually happen for a variety of reasons but the hypocrisy of Sky and the PL is highly amusing.

In the unlikely event it does happen it’ll probably be the final straw for me.
How would it make Sky and the PL hypocrites?
 

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From a political point of view it is fascinating though.

What happens to sponsors? Global brands might back the plans, but other more local brands will be horrified if domestic football fans revolt against anyone and everything tied to them.

What happens to the players and managers? They have to juggle the view of the fans, the risk of losing international football, the risk of losing commercialisation, with the other side of the coin - obviously higher wages.
 

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I struggle to understand the pearl clutching, the PL and the FA don't deserve any loyalty from us given the awful way they've treated us many times in the past.

Having said that, it does take away the special feeling of big European nights if we're doing it every season without fail.