European Super League | 18th April 2021 - 20th April 2021 RIP

Do you want the ESL to happen?


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Chicharo

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None of the 6 actually deserve any praise. Infact it's even more embarrassing for City, Chelsea and United to pull out so early. It make them look even more incompetent. Why bother with this in the first place? Whose idea was it?
Isn't it obvious? It was Glazers' idea that was supposed to be carried out by Woodward. All behind Ole's and players' backs. Once it was all over they simple thought that everyone would have to accept it since the clubs had already agreed on everything, and that, as Daysleeper said, people will get over it. Same goes for other clubs.
But they obviously didn't count on the consequences, threats by UEFA and even English government, the fact that the fans would be so angry that they would, say, block the street as Chelsea's fans did, that players would be pissed off and all other things that in the end made them surrender.
 

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Having listened to sky sports news announce it, it made me feel sick, not because the super league has been abandoned but because they are acting like they are the gate keepers of good morality when the reality is they are just a bunch of greedy hypocrites that are slightly lesser of two evils and should do one themselves.
 

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Ultimately there will be some major shift in powers. UEFA, Premier League PLC, Sky Sports are antiquated structures that are starting to outlive their utility.

In other industries, cutting out the 'middleman' or more cost-efficient delivery platforms are the way to go. Companies like Uber, Amazon, Deliveroos whether in taxis, ride-sharing or food delivery to Netflix are all leveraging and offing the ability to lower costs to the end-users. They all kick out the satellite/cable broadcasters or the company that holds all the control of the cars/drivers and access to customers etc. Disney taking back control of the distribution of its own content with their own channel, Disney+

Change will be inevitable. This will be the first attempt at content producers trying to wrestle back control of offering their content direct to fans/customers.

So my guess will be MUTV Live will be the Glazer's next foray into this new changing landscape. I for one don't have an issue paying money direct to MUTV (I already do) than to the likes of Sky, Comcast etc.
This is a valid point but I would expect there will be a Premier League app rather than United going alone. That would evenly distribute the money amongst the clubs. I can’t believe it hasn’t happened yet as I would get rid of satellite TV if I could just get the football on one app.
 

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What a wonderful morning to wake up. Football is still alive.
My 11 year old kid literally got tears of joy in his eyes when I told him these great news.
 

NinjaZombie

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The most disappointing thing about the timing of the ESL announcement and the league's immediate demise was that it overshadowed today's Essex derby between Colchester United and Southend United.

Colchester prevailed 2-0
Get in! I managed them in Football Manager and took them to the Prem. Alex Gibley was massive. :lol:
 

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Not openly discussing these plans before announcing them was the huge mistake here.

Some of the ideas from the super league are worth discussing at least.
 

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I'm still trying to work out how some people came to the conclusion that nearly a third of the PL not caring where they finish wouldn't have affected the quality of the League.

Like if Arsenal are 25 points behind City they didn't think it would make any difference to the season, their games, if they didn't need to finish in the Top 4 and could finish 17th and still get the same rewards the next year. It would have killed the League.
 

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I can’t wait for ESL. It’ll be class without all the poverty bus parking clubs.
What you gonna do now, lad? Assuming you didn't enjoy our 3-1 win over poverty bus parkers Burnley then?
 

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This whole situation has Woodward and Joel Glazer's incompetence baked in to the very core.

It's one thing to be unhappy with UEFA, try and argue your case and look at alternative options. No-one would object to that. However we have Woodward publicly saying one thing and privately engaging in shady stuff. Heard that before?

What was telling, is that the financial backer of this plan hid behind the facade of JP Morgan rather than publicly stating their intent.

The Glazer's have destroyed the reputation of this club and lumped us in with the crazy money grabbing antics of the clubs used as puppet regimes by despots, crackpots and tyrants.

They need to be taken out of the club by any means necessary.
 

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Let's be honest here about the 6 English clubs.

2 that are backed with almost infinite money and don't need the money.
2 that were lucky to be invited in the first place.
2 that are the biggest clubs in the country, with owners who feel that their club shouldnt have to do something so base as to qualify for a competition.

Shambles allround.
 

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What's the source of the Harry Maguire confronting Woodward story? I was aware of Bruno and Shaw, and then Rashford.
 

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This is not the end of the European Super League. They are going to suggest some changes and return with a new model in a few years. At least that is my fear and expectation.

This will not stop unless legislation is made to prevent such action. And that is probably not possible with the free market.

At the very least, the responsible leaders from the clubs involved should be held accountable. They will try to appear as leaders who listened to the fans and therefore withdrew from the league. But that is not the truth.
 

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I'm really surprised that they caved in so fast, and this was a plan that they discussed for more than a decade with billions at stake?

They probably thought they could just waltz in, introduce the grand idea of a super league and get greeted with cheers and applause. Just shows how detached from reality these billionaires are.
 

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This is what makes me feel like it's a been 1 big trick.

Offer us a worse case scenario and in the background rush through a new set of just rules just as bad.

Now we all feel happy and will accept whatever comes. It doesn't sound much different than the ESL honestly.
 
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I'm really surprised that they caved in so fast, and this was a plan that they discussed for more than a decade with billions at stake?

They probably thought they could just waltz in, introduce the grand idea of a super league and get greeted with cheers and applause. Just shows how detached from reality these billionaires are.
Would appear City and Chelsea were the last of the 12 to agree, and potentially did so reluctantly as to not get left behind. They broke the pact, if they stayed steadfast, we would still be onboard this train. The other clubs will be seething.
 

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A serious discussion need to be had about how much money UEFA makes and how it is distributed.
If the big clubs are responsible for generating most of the revenue, I think it is unfair to say they cannot ask for more money.
 

RobinLFC

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Good statement but I found it interesting he kept saying "your club"
Speaking to the fans, I guess. Would've been even worse if he said "my club" :lol:

At least we got an apology but this feels like damage control and too little too late from him. He fecked up, knew all of this beforehand and didn't even think to consult with the people at the club, Klopp, the players and most importantly the fans before he took that horrendous decision.
 

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Glazers:
"We would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for those pesky fans"
 

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This is a valid point but I would expect there will be a Premier League app rather than United going alone. That would evenly distribute the money amongst the clubs. I can’t believe it hasn’t happened yet as I would get rid of satellite TV if I could just get the football on one app.
I think it would probably happen and part of their roadmap if this Super League took off ie. put the control back into the hands of the content producers. Just wouldn't have happened, just not on Day One.
 

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Pigs will fly and Ole’s son will be in charge of United before we ever get a statement from the glazers like John Henry’s one. They’re scavengers as Nev said, time has long past for them to leave
 

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Good statement but I found it interesting he kept saying "your club"
I wish he had gone more into detail about the WHY, but as far as apologies goes, this is a good one. Manchester United won't get one like this.

I think the "your club" is just to emphasise that he's not speaking to them as a king.