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European Super League
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
Good points. I am no Corbyn supporter but what you can do is mandate a sale of the percentage of the club (at least 51%) to the public over a period of time (could be 2-3 years) at the open market value. I am sure enough people will buy in. You can also mandate clubs to be debt free and give them three years to do so. My main point is if there's a will, there's a way.
Also, people talk about investments. There are things that you just don't (or rather should not) sell like key infrastructure to outside parties. We've seen that with vaccine production.
The biggest 'capitalists', the US, are happy to flex their muscle and get better deals for their state by putting in really restrictive laws (again look at the pandemic, also their defence procurement laws).
And on the point of investments, these Americans have not invested in our (Arsenal/Man Utd/Liverpool) clubs, they have not added money, the Glazers being the most obvious case where they used us as an asset to get a mortgage and keep draining the club.
Didn't the FA plan a 39th game once upon a time?
@Acquire Me Are you saying the clubs will get their super league, or that they will get more money out of the new UCL?
Yep! Or Boris calling out what’s the right thing to do when it took Rashford to get schools children fed. Bunch of hypocrites the lord of them.
I’m glad Sky are standing up for the customer in all this.
Dont think this is the point though. Nonsense like this dilutes the overall argument.
If it is American owned i would expect some kind of salary cap and a NFL style league perhaps mini divisions of 4 then a knockout stage to their Superbowl final
Still no announcement then.
I think you could still argue this is AGAINST British interests and in that case, there is no limitation to what you can do.
And you can tell all the other investors that finance or whatever industry you invest in is not really against British interests so there's no worry for them.
There is an extremely excellent football toad on my screen.
Christ. Someone needs to link up the inevitable Twitter thread that explains where we are succinctly, step by step. Can’t be arsed to look through thirty pages to get the overall gist of this & if it is indeed going to happen.
One word, 'brinksmanshizing'.
Any comments from managers, players ?
So, all we have so far is "super-league" kite-flying, an angry Sky Sports, and a bunch of opportunistic politicians?
The one think I think they could do is making it different for new clubs (like Germany did, but they went the opposite way, allowing private ownership), but to force them to do something now, especially by dictating the price....I really don't think they could do it.
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I think we can all agree on this that we should end the season now and dock every team involved 100 points. Relegating Liverpool, Spurs and Arsenal.
Surely not so united barca juve etc would leave they're respective leagues altogether?
I wonder what the players think?
The more I'm thinking about it the more I'm leaning towards it being a disaster. A few hours ago I was open to it.
Just imagine in 5 years time. Games played all over the world. The highest paying club gets the best players. No loyalty whatsoever. Players often move around between clubs (with so called rivalries) purely for money and no one can really call them out on it because everything is revolving around money.
However that is far fetched maybe.
The more I'm thinking about it the more I'm leaning towards it being a disaster. A few hours ago I was open to it.
Just imagine in 5 years time. Games played all over the world. The highest paying club gets the best players. No loyalty whatsoever. Players often move around between clubs (with so called rivalries) purely for money and no one can really call them out on it because everything is revolving around money.
However that is far fetched maybe.
Discontent among fans of small teams. Among big teams I would say that support for the super league is rising
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Until Sky Sports News tell us there will be an announcement at 23:30 GMT so we all keep watching for another hour.
I understand the logic. It's not a terrible idea.
The clubs mentioned built the competition into what it is and are the main draw of the competition. Teams like Arsenal and United probably rightly think, we helped establish the current iteration of the competition and aren't reaping the rewards.
The clubs mentioned built the competition into what it is and are the main draw of the competition. Teams like Arsenal and United probably rightly think, we helped establish the current iteration of the competition and aren't reaping the rewards.
Meh, don't expect anything controversial from them. At the end of the day, they'll go where the money and prestige is (rightly so by the way, I'd do the same for my wallet)..
Are we tracking flights yet?
united decided themselves to sell and list on the stock exchange. Let’s not pretend this is all the Glazers fault. United have been looking at ways to maximise revenues and profits for 30 years.
Big day today.
10:30 "announcement" (flop2)
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Ole’s first big test
The announcement has been delayed due to nobody being sure how Tottenham were invited.
Sancho has signed for United!
nothing on qvc
What are Dortmund saying? They've always got something to say.
Of course. At the end, all English clubs are privately owned (or most of them), and if the owners would be richer, they would be spending much more money.
I don’t know, but I’m excited!What's going on
what is it we are waiting for?
Yeah, all those memorable Arsenal 5-1 losses to Bayern.
I think anyone thinking that government couldn't do something needs to remember they basically shut down entire sectors of the economy for months at a time and have made it technically illegal to do many things.
If there was a political will, anything is possible and people should not be under any illusion that it can't happen. Surely this last year has proved that the government has very far reaching power. Certainly far enough to impact on this type of thing if the uproar is strong enough.
When is Jim White on with his yellow tie?