Counterfactual
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Go to bed, it'll be clearer in the morning! (hopefully)Announcement tonight or not I need to sleep
Go to bed, it'll be clearer in the morning! (hopefully)Announcement tonight or not I need to sleep
Not really. In the grand scheme of things, football clubs make up a small proportion of the UK economy. Removing/changing ownership of companies means overseas investors may re-think investing in any industry, if there is the threat that the government will just effectively nationalise. They won't do it, it'll be economic suicide on the back of Brexit.
Good points. I am no Corbyn supporter but what you can do is mandate a sale of the percentage of the club (at least 51%) to the public over a period of time (could be 2-3 years) at the open market value. I am sure enough people will buy in. You can also mandate clubs to be debt free and give them three years to do so. My main point is if there's a will, there's a way.How do you take it from them? You pay them off? Cheating is one thing, but private owneship is another thing. Especially in the west it is a big deal. And what about other investmens?
Yep! Or Boris calling out what’s the right thing to do when it took Rashford to get schools children fed. Bunch of hypocrites the lord of them.Especially after the PPV stuff they tried to introduce.
I think you could still argue this is AGAINST British interests and in that case, there is no limitation to what you can do.Not really. In the grand scheme of things, football clubs make up a small proportion of the UK economy. Removing/changing ownership of companies means overseas investors may re-think investing in any industry, if there is the threat that the government will just effectively nationalise. They won't do it, it'll be economic suicide on the back of Brexit.
There is an extremely excellent football toad on my screen.Did he say it like McCoist says "drags" at 0:18?
The one think I think they could do is making it different for new clubs (like Germany did, but they went the opposite way, allowing private ownership), but to force them to do something now, especially by dictating the price....I really don't think they could do it.Good points. I am no Corbyn supporter but what you can do is mandate a sale of the percentage of the club (at least 51%) to the public over a period of time (could be 2-3 years) at the open market value. I am sure enough people will buy in. My main point is if there's a will, there's a way.
Also, people talk about investments. There are things that you just don't (or rather) sell like key infrastructure to outside parties. We've seen that with vaccine production.
The biggest 'capitalists', the US, are happy to flex their muscle and get better deals for their state by putting in really restrictive laws (again look at the pandemic, also their defence procurement laws).
And on the point of investments, these Americans have not invested in our (Arsenal/Man Utd/Liverpool) clubs, they have not added money, the Glazers being the most obvious case where they used us as an asset to get a mortgage and keep draining the club.
Surely not so united barca juve etc would leave they're respective leagues altogether?As far as I am aware it would be a breakaway league, so all teams involved would leave their current league and not participate anymore.
There would be 12 founding members who cannot be removed from the league in the form of relegation.
5 clubs would be invited each season to participate (the winners of the remaining teams in the top 5 leagues england, france, germany, spain, italy)
Discontent among fans of small teams. Among big teams I would say that support for the super league is risingWhat is the general consensus of fans from countries outside of England? Similar outrage in Spain/Italy?
Until Sky Sports News tell us there will be an announcement at 23:30 GMT so we all keep watching for another hour.3 mins
Meh, don't expect anything controversial from them. At the end of the day, they'll go where the money and prestige is (rightly so by the way, I'd do the same for my wallet)..Any comments from managers, players ?
united decided themselves to sell and list on the stock exchange. Let’s not pretend this is all the Glazers fault. United have been looking at ways to maximise revenues and profits for 30 years.The one think I think they could do is making it different for new clubs (like Germany did, but thy went the opposite way, allowing private ownership), but to force them to do something now, especially by dictating the price....I really don't think they could do it.
Of course. At the end, all English clubs are privately owned (or most of them), and if the owners would be richer, they would be spending much more money.united decided themselves to sell and list on the stock exchange. Let’s not pretend this is all the Glazers fault. United have been looking at ways to maximise revenues and profits for 30 years.
I don’t know, but I’m excited!What's going on
what is it we are waiting for?
Yeah, all those memorable Arsenal 5-1 losses to Bayern.I understand the logic. It's not a terrible idea.
The clubs mentioned built the competition into what it is and are the main draw of the competition. Teams like Arsenal and United probably rightly think, we helped establish the current iteration of the competition and aren't reaping the rewards.
I think anyone thinking that government couldn't do something needs to remember they basically shut down entire sectors of the economy for months at a time and have made it technically illegal to do many things.I think you could still argue this is AGAINST British interests and in that case, there is no limitation to what you can do.
And you can tell all the other investors that finance or whatever industry you invest in is not really against British interests so there's no worry for them.