European Super League - Threadmarks

In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?

Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.

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18th April: Five English clubs sign up, sources say Man City only "Big Six" member yet to do so
Apr 20, 2021
The Times: Super League proposals
Apr 20, 2021
Super League set to be announced the evening of 18th April - no French or German teams included
Apr 20, 2021
The clubs that have agreed to join: Manchester United, Liverpool, Manchester City, Arsenal, Chelsea, Tottenham, FC Barcelona, Real Madrid, Atlético Madrid, Inter Milan, AC Milan and Juventus
Apr 20, 2021
The Mail: Breakdown of The Super League's chairmen and how it is financed
Apr 20, 2021
AP: Fury around UEFA about inability to trust Woodward and Agnelli over their dealings with The Super League
Apr 20, 2021
Premier League statement condemning The Super League plans
Apr 20, 2021
Matt Lawton: Richard Masters calls on Big Six to walk away "before irreparable damage is done". Says joining TSL would be a breach of PL rules.
Apr 20, 2021
UEFA: "Clubs concerned will be banned from playing in any other competition at domestic, European or world level, and their players could be denied the opportunity to represent their national teams"
Apr 20, 2021
Full statement by UEFA, FA, PL, RFEF, La Liga, FIGC and Lega Serie A
Apr 20, 2021
Gary Neville on reports: "They should all be docked points agreeing to it in the middle of a season"
Apr 20, 2021
Silver lining?
Apr 20, 2021
Culture Secretary Oliver Dowden reacts to reports
Apr 20, 2021
Three minute video of Gary Neville's reaction to The Super League reports
Apr 20, 2021
Wrexham statement: "Despite the club's two 4-0 victories this week, we can confirm we will not be seeking membership to the newly uncovered Super League"
Apr 20, 2021
Reuters: Sir Alex Ferguson: "Talk of a Super League is a move away from 70 years of European club football."
Apr 20, 2021
Swiss Ramble: The 12 clubs lost a combined £1.2bn in 2019/20 before player sales
Apr 20, 2021
Roy Keane condemns plans for European Super League: "They couldn't care less about the football supporter who walks out and supports their club"
Apr 20, 2021
Nine minute video containing Gary Neville's reaction
Apr 20, 2021
DAZN willing to pay $3.5bn for the TV rights if The Super League goes ahead
Apr 20, 2021
Boris Johnson: "Plans for a European Super League would be very damaging for football and we support football authorities in taking action"
Apr 20, 2021
Macron also against The Super League (article in Italian)
Apr 20, 2021
Rio Ferdinand, Robbie Savage and Francis Benali give their thoughts (9 minute video)
Apr 20, 2021
9:30 "announcement" (flop)
Apr 20, 2021
ECA statement
Apr 20, 2021
Simon Stone: ECA held an emergency meeting in which none of the 12 clubs responded to invitations. Meeting chaired by Edwin van der Sar.
Apr 20, 2021
Keir Starmer statement
Apr 20, 2021
Micah Richards: "What happens to the fans? They're forgotten about for the sake of money?"
Apr 20, 2021
10:30 "announcement" (flop2)
Apr 20, 2021
Gabriele Marcotti: "If the rebel clubs stay in domestic leagues, there's an even greater domestic inbalance in already unbalanced leagues due to greater Euro revenue"
Apr 20, 2021
Boris Johnson and Oliver Dowden drawing up potential government enforced consequences for clubs if they go ahead
Apr 20, 2021
Mike Keegan: Told City and Chelsea were backed into a corner. Would be amazed if it was a coincidence JP Morgan are closely linked to financing element (Woodward's former employer)
Apr 20, 2021
ANNOUNCED: The Super League official statement
Apr 20, 2021
Joel Glazer: "The Super League will open a new chapter for European football, ensuring world-class competition and facilities, and increased financial support for the wider football pyramid"
Apr 20, 2021
Arsenal twitter announcement: "We are one of 12 Founding Clubs of the European Super League"
Apr 20, 2021
Liverpool twitter announcement: "Leading European football clubs announce new Super League competition"
Apr 20, 2021
Juventus statemnt says founding clubs will continue to play in domestic competitions and want to implement it in agreement with FIFA and UEFA
Apr 20, 2021
Jason Burt: "Told that Juventus have just quit the European Club Association and Andrea Agnelli has resigned as its chairman and from UEFA Executive Committee"
Apr 20, 2021
Corresponding women's league to be launched to help advancement and development of women's game
Apr 20, 2021
Sky Italia: UEFA announces every club and player participating will be banned from all competitions at both European and international level
Apr 20, 2021
Florentino Perez: "We will help football at every level and take it to the rightful place in the world"
Apr 20, 2021
FIFA statement: "FIFA can only express its disapproval to a closed European breakaway league outside of the international football structures and not respecting the aforementioned principles"
Apr 20, 2021
Francesco Porzio: All clubs involved in The Super League creation have left the ECA
Apr 20, 2021
Jurgen Klopp quote from 2019 RE: Super League: "For me, the Champions League is the Super League, in which you do not always end up playing against the same teams"
Apr 20, 2021
Jamie Carragher replies to Liverpool tweet: "What an embarrassment we've become. Think of all the people who have come before us at this club who would be equally embarrassed as well"
Apr 20, 2021
Danny Murphy column on the proposals: "Disappointed and disgusted at the greed"
Apr 20, 2021
Jeff Stelling: "Never forget what they have tried to do"
Apr 20, 2021
Shameless podcast plug: Will The Super League see a similar fate to the 1970's World Series Cricket?
Apr 20, 2021
Adam Crafton: "Dangling the women's equivalent in without any details sums up the lack of imagination of the pale stale men behind all this"
Apr 20, 2021
Arsenal fan Dermot O'Leary: "Ashamed of our club tonight"
Apr 20, 2021
Squawka: Most recent league title of The Super League founding clubs - all in 2000s bar Spurs who last won in 1961
Apr 20, 2021
Francesco Porzio: No confirmation that Champions and Europa games are temporarily suspended. Decision will be taken in the next hours - anything can happen.
Apr 20, 2021
Each club will receive $400m - more than four times what the Champions League winner took home in 2020
Apr 20, 2021
Bray Wanderers FC: "We've won the same amount of Premier League titles as Spurs"
Apr 20, 2021
Isiah Whitlock Jr. weighs in
Apr 20, 2021
Simon Stone: The Super League clubs have contacted UEFA and FIFA issuing notice of legal proceedings designed to block any sanctions the two governing bodies may try to enforce over The Super League's formation
Apr 20, 2021
Chris Williams: In UEFA there is a genuine want for the 12 to be dismissed and for Real, Barcelona, AC Milan and Liverpool to be stripped of all titles
Apr 20, 2021
Mohamed Bouhafsi: Nasser Al-Khelaifi is now the ECA's executive boss
Apr 20, 2021
Dan Roan: United and Real Madrid "ringleaders", 3 US-owned PL clubs sold on NFL model of closed league, others see it more as leverage over UEFA
Apr 20, 2021
Dan Roan: Some of those involved call traditional supporters "legacy fans" while they're instead focused on the "fans of the future"
Apr 20, 2021
Hans-Joachim Watzke states his views are identical to those of Bayern and as far as he knows both Bayern and Dortmund intend to stand by agreed reforms to the Champions League
Apr 20, 2021
Melissa Reddy: Players weren't insulted and aren't keen. Club staff don't like it. The overwhelming majority of fans don't want this. It's on the owners.
Apr 20, 2021
Jose Mourinho the first of The Super League managers to lose their job
Apr 20, 2021
UEFA's executive committee has unanimously voted through new 36-team Champions League to start in 2024
Apr 20, 2021
Vice President of the European Commission Margaritis Schinas speaks against The Super League
Apr 20, 2021
Ian Holloway says The Super League is a betrayal to the memory of Prince Philip
Apr 20, 2021
Fabrizio Romano: Leipzig sources confirm they have no intention of joining The Super League
Apr 20, 2021
Piers Morgan threatens to revoke his four season tickets if Arsenal proceed
Apr 20, 2021
Sport Witness: Reaction from Spain to The Super League continues to be far more positive than elsewhere
Apr 20, 2021
Real Betis remove the three Spanish Super League clubs from the league table on their website
Apr 20, 2021
Ander Herrera: "I believe in an improved Champions League, but not in the rich stealing what the people created"
Apr 20, 2021
James Olley: 2021 Deloitte Money League is indicative of the only table that matters to those involved
Apr 20, 2021
James Ducker: United failed to share European Super League plans at fan forum days before announcement
Apr 20, 2021
League Managers Association statement
Apr 20, 2021
Pinto da Costa (Porto President) confirms there were talks but in the end Porto denied participating in The Super League
Apr 20, 2021
Adam Crafton: "Agnelli called proposed CL reforms beautiful last month. Was chair of ECA. UEFA President Ceferin is godfather to his daughter and he's betrayed them all"
Apr 20, 2021
Lukas Podolski: "This project is disgusting, not fair and I'm disappointed to see clubs I represented involved"
Apr 20, 2021
Twitter thread on the new owners of AC Milan
Apr 20, 2021
Dejan Lovren: "Football will be on a brink of complete collapse. Nobody is thinking about the bigger picture, only the financial side"
Apr 20, 2021
Sky Sports News: Reaction from the Big Six's Supporters' Trusts
Apr 20, 2021
Luis Figo: "This so-called Super League is anything but Super. This greedy and callous move would spell disaster for our grassroots, for women's football and the wider football community"
Apr 20, 2021
Quote from an unnamed board member of one of the Big Six: "Our primary job is to maximise our revenues and profits, the wider good of the game is a secondary concern"
Apr 20, 2021
Liverpool fans protest
Apr 20, 2021
Ian Stirling from MUST speaks to BBC Radio Manchester
Apr 20, 2021
Stephen Fry: "6 football clubs have achieved something that no politician or public figure has. They've brought together the whole divided nation - everyone united in disgust and revulsion at such greed and stupidity"
Apr 20, 2021
Mesut Özil: "Kids grow up dreaming to win the World Cup and the Champions League - not any Super League"
Apr 20, 2021
Valencia condemn The Super League
Apr 20, 2021
Joan Laporta in January: "I think the European Super League represents everything that is wrong with football. It's all about the money, you lose the essence of the beautiful sport"
Apr 20, 2021
Former FA chairman Lord Triesman: "The idea that there would be a group of people who out of sheer greed would decide to breakaway is tragic"
Apr 20, 2021
UEFA's Alexander Ceferin: "The players that will play in the Super League will be banned from playing in the World Cup and Euros"
Apr 20, 2021
Bruno Fernandes posts on Instagram against The Super League
Apr 20, 2021
The Super League clubs face expulsion from next season's Champions League. Rummenigge joins UEFA's executive committee in place of Agnelli.
Apr 20, 2021
Tariq Panja: Clubs will be worse off despite the bribe/handout from The Super League
Apr 20, 2021
Ceferin: "Woodward called me last Thursday saying he's satisfied with and supports the reforms. The only thing he wanted to talk about was FFP when he had already signed something else"
Apr 20, 2021
Ceferin: "Agnelli is the biggest disappointment of all. I've never seen a person that would lie as much and as persistently as he did. We didn't know we had snakes so close to us, now we know"
Apr 20, 2021
Grimsby Town offer shirt amnesty
Apr 20, 2021
Ceferin: "These so-called big clubs were not always big clubs. Juventus were in Serie B and United before Sir Alex Ferguson was I don't know where"
Apr 20, 2021
Gavin Patterson, former BT Group chief executive sounded out about becoming inaugural CEO of The Super League
Apr 20, 2021
United's stockmarket value up over $250m on announcement of The Super League
Apr 20, 2021
Protest sign outside Old Trafford
Apr 20, 2021
Premier League to host meeting with the Other 14 tomorrow. Meeting chaired online by Richard Masters.
Apr 20, 2021
Ceferin meeting with legal team to decide about sanctions this season. "As soon as possible they have to be banned from all our competitions - players too"
Apr 20, 2021
Mohamd Bouhafsi: "Despite requests from several clubs, Al-Khelaifi has refused to take over the presidency of the ECA. He wanted to help rebuild football by remaining a member of the ECA board"
Apr 20, 2021
Ceferin: "They are not banned from European football forever but the way they acted was wrong"
Apr 20, 2021
EFL statement
Apr 20, 2021
Ståle Solbakken: "Tottenham and Arsenal are currently probably not among the 20-30 best teams in Europe"
Apr 20, 2021
Some of the Other 14, want the Big Six suspended from the current Premier League season
Apr 20, 2021
Ceferin shuts down any possibility of reaching a peace deal between UEFA and The Super League
Apr 20, 2021
Joint statement from Spirit of Shankly and other supporter groups representing the Big Six
Apr 20, 2021
Kieran Maguire on money concentration
Apr 20, 2021
FC Bayern statement
Apr 20, 2021
Oliver Dowden's statement in the House of Commons
Apr 20, 2021
Fabrizio Romano: Serie A meeting ongoing - including Juventus, AC Milan and Inter
Apr 20, 2021
AFTV: All fans must take a stand and stop The Super League
Apr 20, 2021
Manchester City struggling to shift 2,000 tickets to fans that haven't watched them in over a year
Apr 20, 2021
Manchester MPs write to Manchester United and Manchester City
Apr 20, 2021
Oliver Dowden says he's left with no choice but to formally trigger the launch of a fan-led review of football
Apr 20, 2021
Francesco Porzio: "Italian, Spanish and English governments have all expressed disagreements. Politics will be a key factor in the coming weeks"
Apr 20, 2021
Jesper Moller says he expects Chelsea, Real Madrid and Manchester City to be kicked out of Champions League semi finals this week
Apr 20, 2021
The Super League is going to offer Bayern, PSG and Dortmund (founding) membership as soon as possible. Leaving PSG 14 days to respond and the German clubs 30 days.
Apr 20, 2021
Mike Keegan: "Woodward held emergency briefing with unimpressed Manchester United players at Carrington. Belief Ole was thrown under bus and left to face press"
Apr 20, 2021
Jo Stevens calls on the government to "reform our broken football system"
Apr 20, 2021
Bastian Schweinsteiger: "If The Super League is realised, it will destroy football with its national leagues as we know it and this is a very sad thought to me"
Apr 20, 2021
Liverpool fans outside Elland Road protesting about The Super League. Drivers-by honk horns in support
Apr 20, 2021
Florentino Perez to appear on Spanish TV at midnight Spanish time to give details about The Super League and answer questions
Apr 20, 2021
Jason Burt: "UEFA executive committee to discuss expelling The Super League clubs from semi finals of Champions League and Europa League on Friday"
Apr 20, 2021
The Guardian: "Premier League's furious Other 14 look to derail Super League plan"
Apr 20, 2021
Fans protesting outside Elland Road "feck The Super League"
Apr 20, 2021
Duke of Cambridge: "I share the concerns of fans about the proposed Super League and the damage it risks causing to the game we love"
Apr 20, 2021
Leeds United players to wear t-shirts that say "Earn it on the pitch. Football is for the fans"
Apr 20, 2021
Jason Burt: Unlikely clubs will be expelled from Europe this season as it will be tough legally"
Apr 20, 2021
Boos and chants of scum as Liverpool's coach arrives at Elland Road
Apr 20, 2021
Monday Night Football in full as Gary Neville and Jamie Carragher tear into The Super League
Apr 20, 2021
Jamie Carragher: "This is John Henry and FSG, this is the Glazers, this is Roman Abramovich, Sheikh Mansour, Stan Kroenke, Daniel Levy. These are the people to blame for this"
Apr 20, 2021
#SayNoToSuperLeague plane banner
Apr 20, 2021
Jurgen Klopp speaks on The Super League
Apr 20, 2021
Jurgen Klopp unhappy that the "Earn it on the pitch" t-shirts were offered to his squad in the Elland Road dressing room
Apr 20, 2021
Sevilla announced they're not joining The Super League and have no interest in doing so
Apr 20, 2021
YouGov: 14% Support, 79% Oppose the creation of The Super League
Apr 20, 2021
Spion Kop along with other groups involved in flags, remove their banners from The Kop
Apr 20, 2021
Matt Law: "I'm disappointed in Chelsea and City as they broke the traditional cartel in England and improved the competition of the Premier League. Now they've joined something that denies others the same opportunity"
Apr 20, 2021
Anas Laghari (Secretary general of The Super League): "If an agreement is reached with UEFA, the competition could start as early as September 2021"
Apr 20, 2021
Ajax reacts to The Super League and new Champions League format
Apr 20, 2021
Patrick Bamford reacts
Apr 20, 2021
James Milner: "I don't like it and hopefully it doesn't happen"
Apr 20, 2021
James Milner video interview
Apr 20, 2021
Marcelo Bielsa: "The important thing is the protection of the fans. If there is an imbalance, it should be towards those who love the game"
Apr 20, 2021
Paul Hayward: "Abramovich's motives are interesting. Made Chelsea socially conscious but no longer has UK visa and Anglo-Russian relations are dire. Work on the club's image ditched?"
Apr 20, 2021
Florentino Perez: "More competitive games will make everyone earn more money."
Apr 20, 2021
David Beckham's thoughts on The Super League
Apr 20, 2021
Florentino Perez: "We are doing it to save football as it is at a critical moment"
Apr 20, 2021
Florentino Perez adamant that players and clubs won't be banned from competitions this season
Apr 20, 2021
Florentino Perez on Ceferin: "We don't want a president who insults another president"
Apr 20, 2021
Florentino Perez: "If PSG and Bayern Munich refuse, The Super League will not be cancelled"
Apr 20, 2021
Stretford End Flags poll whether Old Trafford banners should be removed until United withdraw from The Super League
Apr 20, 2021
Florentino Perez: "Real Madrid won't start from zero because all our [European] titles won't be forgotten"
Apr 20, 2021
Florentino Perez: "The contract of The Super League is binding. Nobody can leave. All the clubs signed the contracts last Saturday"
Apr 20, 2021
Florentino Perez: "Why aren't UEFA and La Liga salaries public? We need more transparency"
Apr 20, 2021
Florentino Perez: "If young people find football matches too long we might have to make the football matches shorter"
Apr 20, 2021
Ian Doyle: "What must Robertson, McTominay and Tierney be thinking now? Help Scotland to a first major finals this millennium then find out they may not be able to play in Euros because of their owners"
Apr 20, 2021
Oliver Holt: "Told two English clubs are close to losing their nerve"
Apr 20, 2021
Susie Dent weighs in with her word of the day: "ingordigiousness"
Apr 20, 2021
Record: "Benfica lobbying to become the Portuguese representative of The Super League"
Apr 20, 2021
More Perez ESL garbage
Nov 22, 2021