The Firestarter
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I am really looking forward to all this fizzling out and that lot trying to pretend that it never happened.Tweet
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I am really looking forward to all this fizzling out and that lot trying to pretend that it never happened.Tweet
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Chill mate. Arsenal is ok. What everyone really wants to know is how the feck did spurs get in.Why are so many people dumping on Arsenal? We've won like 4 FA cups in 7 years and been to a Europa League final. We're hardly San Marino.
What's the cut off point and criteria? IF it's the last 5 years and based on footballing performance like some are arguing then I can't tell you how United got an invite. If it's baed on factors outside of the pitch like club size, fan support and all the rest of it, then you can't really question our inclusion.
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Not us, the sport. And that is my point.I haven't said we will invest more. If you put down this insistence on fighting anything that doesn't immediately and simply agree with you then you can see I've said we will continue to be invested in, not as much as we know we should. We did spend 80 million quid on a defender. That's not pitiful investment. We won't just be tossed aside and see zero is my point. We will still sign players, we will pay pretty jig ages and we will probably pay some pretty hefty transfer fees.
For the last time. No, probably not as much as we should do, I'm not fighting you on that. I just think it's over dramatic to suggest we'll essentially be left to rot.
Isn't there a rule in German football that the fans own 51% of the club so their owners can't make any decisions like this on their own? I remember the owner of Wolfsburg I believe did some fishy stuff and all 17 fanbases where chanting that he needed to die and all type of bad stuff and the league made him step down. Could be that I remember it wrong but TLDR the Germans got their values straight when it comes to football.Bayern declined the invitation.
Probably about whether or not they can scream at a referee until it goes away.I really wonder how other clubs perceive this. What are Leicester thinking? Wolves? Everton? Leeds?
What are Napoli & Roma thinking?
What are Sevilla thinking?
They will have already considered the various governments actions.I'm not a fan a fan of government interference but I'd be happy for the UK to do something crazy/illegal that facks this up and at least puts it into court for years.
its a shit idea. Its not even cut and run that any of the 6 english teams will always get in the champions league. All of them bar city have failed in recent times. You have to earn the right, and if leicester or west ham beat you to it thats the beauty of it. Its like a big two fingers up to the spirit of football and professional competition from entitled owners.I’m genuinely baffled that there are people defending this idea or trying to portray it as a positive move. This is driven purely by corporate greed and cements the complete commodification of football. There’s not a single aspect of it that makes sense outside of the money and it will cause a massive rift within the sport.
It’s a league that you can’t be relegated from for fecks sake, how does that make sense?
Arsenal are 9th in the Premier League and haven’t even been in the Champions League for nearly 5 years. Yet they’re guaranteed to be in this new league every single season despite the fact that they’ll get dicked on repeatedly. Does anyone really enjoy San Marino being in the Euros qualifiers? Because that’s what Arsenal will be without ever having the threat of being relegated as a result.
And that’s just one minor part of the impracticalities of the format. The ethos behind it is fundamental issue; relentless greed. Do people really think if the clubs are willing to do this so brazenly that’ll be the end of it?
The remaining clubs may well get extra/new fans too.Exactly, and this is why the Premier League (hopefully) really will kick the teams out. It'd be completely unfair on the Fulhams and Newcastles trying to stay in the league, one plays against a full strength City and the other plays United's kids. Destroys the spirit of the competition. It'll be better for the league long term to kick them out.
Tottenham being in the Super League is like Bananaman being in The Avengers
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Because you have no business being involved in an elite european competition. As your league form shows. Why should they get a guaranteed place rather than objectively better teams like Leicester, West Ham or EvertonWhy are so many people dumping on Arsenal? We've won like 4 FA cups in 7 years and been to a Europa League final. We're hardly San Marino.
What's the cut off point and criteria? IF it's the last 5 years and based on footballing performance like some are arguing then I can't tell you how United got an invite. If it's baed on factors outside of the pitch like club size, fan support and all the rest of it, then you can't really question our inclusion.
Personally, I couldn't support another club. Either United or im out.The remaining clubs may well get extra/new fans too.
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Oh my days, are the corporates really censoring?Tweets disappearing all over the place
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Disagree. This is based on how big they are. If anything, City is the odd man out of all those clubs. City and Spurs.Because you have no business being involved in an elite european competition. As your league form shows. Why should they get a guaranteed place rather than objectively better teams like Leicester, West Ham or Everton
I meant young fans who grow up and decide to support someone in the 'real' league.Personally, I couldn't support another club. Either United or im out.
It's obviously not about footballing ability. Arsenal are a bigger team than the ones you mention.Because you have no business being involved in an elite european competition. As your league form shows. Why should they get a guaranteed place rather than objectively better teams like Leicester, West Ham or Everton
i agree. Its a farce. State owned football clubs. I couldnt believe that psg and city got to ignore ffp, then have their bans overturned and pay a tiny fine. Kills the game.Better than the 1 super team league we have today?
Id love to see the City apologists in the media who attack this get called out on it. If 6 Citys is terrible for the league then 1 is as well
Ahh, I see. My bad.I meant young fans who grow up and decide to support someone in the 'real' league.
Do Barcelona have a cheese room....Disagree. This is based on how big they are. If anything, City is the odd man out of all those clubs. City and Spurs.
For sure. I'd be straight to Norwich myself. Suspect many of us who have been brought up to support United but actually have a decent local team would do similar. Albeit, it'd never be quite the same.The remaining clubs may well get extra/new fans too.
Stop this WUM.This is what made me doubt the existence of some paid shills on here. How do you support this club and its history and think this is OK?!??!?
That wasn't a friendly.Guess when we won the European World Cup in Japan that was a friendly as well. Hope you didn't get too excited, you know, friendly and all that.
I'd expect the people actual playing feel differently if I'm honest. Mason would still want to winning games, scoring goals and playing at a level that sees him revered by fans.Yup.
With no need for European qualification if we have a bad first 10 games in the league then our domestic season is essentially over in September...leaving you with 28 dead rubbers because every spot from 2nd - 17th means essentially the same, outside of varying prize money for the owners.
Same goes for all the Super League clubs.
Hm, I may be disliked for my opinions on here but I definitely support this club (in my own way). Who the hell are you?Stop this WUM.
They can't do that and in all honesty, them feeling they have the ability to punish players for their club may be part of the problem. I actually want to see how this looks like. I don't like the idea of permanent members, but I suspect this is them simply cutting out UEFA, eventually more clubs will join if its successful and it will replace the champions league.