I genuinely don’t really care about the outcome I decided today. The football I loved went about 20 years ago. This makes little difference to me.
European Super League
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
The more I think about this the more it seems like who has a bigger contest. And more this mad mad Perez speaks more I'm convinced a middle ground will be found.
I mean the whole plan seems like something that has been done in a rush just for the sake of it. 12 clubs, 3 more invited, which ones, qualification for 5 more, which 5, from which leagues, how would qualification work and would that and that league even allow it. Don't get me started with the logo. What the hell is that? My 7 year old daughter would make a better one.
The best part is uefa has been chopping chopping and changing CL to accommodate the big clubs and it still isn't enough.
I mean the whole plan seems like something that has been done in a rush just for the sake of it. 12 clubs, 3 more invited, which ones, qualification for 5 more, which 5, from which leagues, how would qualification work and would that and that league even allow it. Don't get me started with the logo. What the hell is that? My 7 year old daughter would make a better one.
The best part is uefa has been chopping chopping and changing CL to accommodate the big clubs and it still isn't enough.
Yep it happens all the time. Oakland Raiders a year ago got moved to Los Vegas for example. Chargers moved from San Diego to Los Angeles even though Los Angeles already had the Rams (which were previously in St. Louis). These are big cities and they lost their teams. Its disgusting. Everything that can be done must be done to stop this. Everything.
Indeed. Right now, if the club pushes on with this it may as well be an NFL franchise or an e-sports team. It's no longer the club I support, it's history is gone.
I'll just continue to watch my local club and the PL. How I feel at the moment, if the club folded in a few years I wouldn't care.
Just out of interest does anyone know what is Simon Stones view is on all this? He usually posts what other people have said. Has he voiced his opinion?Benefit the game as a whole!
Do they really think anyone is ever getting to swallow that?
There simply no way those founding clubs would back off once it’s announced. It’s very big decision, of course they have already prepared for all the worst possible outcomes.
Hopefully Spurs isnt the 1 defector, as the other 5 wont give a shite
To be fair, in the context of a European League for European competition they don't.
Forest and Villa have more European Cup success than either.
The project pre-dates covid. Not only the G-14 was created in 2000 for that goal but even more recently football leaks revealed this plan in 2018.
Probably but the thing is the Spanish clubs need the Super League more than the English clubs but more susceptible to fan protests. Florentino has been pushing for this for decades.
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Now I actually understand why Pirlo was hired. They wanted to spend the least amount of money possible before the confirmation of Super League. It wouldn't matter if they win or lose the Serie A, they are in the SL anyway.
Yes let’s totally ruin the sport to teach sky a lesson. That’ll show everyone!
Sickening my friend. I havent eaten properly in 2 days. This cannot go ahead it will destroy everything. People thinking we are over dramatizing, this is just the beginning. First the super league, then changing the club names, changing were they are based, games on in different continents, matches shortened into multiple quarters for additional adds. This is breaking my heart.
And now they're called Las Vegas Raiders. Keep this shameless Americanization and all their name/stadium shenanigans out of football.
Takes some doing to come out of this as the biggest cnut but Agnelli is putting in great work on that front.
quite! We can recognise his MO a mile away - the other big clubs are now seeing what we have had to put up with for years!Absolute cowards.
I don't care if you've been told not to say anything.
The first team players are already millionaires and even if they got sacked, they'd be fine.
But sacking would just look worse for the Glazers, so what are you afraid of, Rashford, Pogba, Maguire?
True colours show at times like these. I know people go on about Rashford but principles are respected because they endure. Let's see if they come through this test.
Yeah, it reeks of haste. Specially for something this massive, you cannot just present cardboard drawings for your plans. That makes me think they just threw this out to rattle UEFA who they probably believe have gone too far in their dealings (the latest revamp being an example).
Does anyone know what the global fan bases are saying, it's ok to say that the Manchester or Liverpool fans are demonstrating outside stadiums, but what's happening with supporters clubs in other parts of the world? I imagine some are probably excited by this, hoping some games could be played in their vicinity?
I get the feeling it's only the global supporters whom these clubs are interested in.
I get the feeling it's only the global supporters whom these clubs are interested in.
Same with Solskjaer on sunday.
A thread by someone who doesnt have a clue whats already in place.
We need less hysteria and more substance. Without actual facts football will struggle to legally stop this.
Doesn't surprise me that it would be the three American owned teams who don't want to spend money that are most interested.
This is what the whole thing is driving home for me. I think as fans of this team in particular, we've become accustomed to compartmentalising it as the 'club' being the players, the manager, the stadium, the history. All of it is tarnished and endangered now because of the business psychos. I'm gutted for Ole and the players, and mortified in general.
Who cares????? It's not clumsily put just a really irrelevant and stupidly out of place attempt at point scoring tribalism, the exact type of tribalism that makes owners think with some foundation that they can and would get away with pulling these types of moves in the first place.
That process starred decades ago mate. I still support my team but I’ll never think of it as the same.
Calm down. You are talking like its about apartheid or something. It is a business decision.
I'm sure the media will try and test their resolve but these clubs knew exactly what they signed up for, the second the announcement was made there was already no turning back. Everyone who's joined the Super League wants to be a part of it, their journalists will try and paint a pretty picture for their reasoning but there's 0 chance anyone pulls out, why would they?
So the games were not competitive because greedy clubs and greedy leagues hoarded wealth. And the solution is to hoard even more money and even more wealth?I suspect they will lose plenty of fans. Kicking a ball around with no consequences or rewards is not football.
Have they even considered how it will affect the dynamics of the game on the pitch ?
Why would players bust a gut when there is no downside, why would they play through the pain barrier and strain every sinew to achieve an outcome in a game that doesn’t matter. Why would fans be emotionally invested if they can just try again next year.
it will be the biggest mistake in the history of the sport. I won’t be watching it at all, not a single minute. It’s will be no more interesting than a pre season friendly
Have they even considered how it will affect the dynamics of the game on the pitch ?
Why would players bust a gut when there is no downside, why would they play through the pain barrier and strain every sinew to achieve an outcome in a game that doesn’t matter. Why would fans be emotionally invested if they can just try again next year.
it will be the biggest mistake in the history of the sport. I won’t be watching it at all, not a single minute. It’s will be no more interesting than a pre season friendly
It was John Henry who said the first guy through the wall, will always get a bit bloody. They would have expected the backlash.
Here's a clip from Moneyball where he supposedly said it.
Here's a clip from Moneyball where he supposedly said it.
Yep these cowards will keep happily sending the managers out into the firing line.
The “who will risk €12bn in a multi year broadcast deal” question has Amazon written all over it.
I think Ole was the first manager as the news broke during our Sunday game, he literally didn't know what to say.
The way the managers and players have been handled during this is a disgrace, completely done behind their backs.
They are not freedom fighters. This notion that they should go against their employers publicly is just naive and stupid. No one here will do it. Not sure why it is expected of players and managers
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If you think so. However, I'm not going to disbelieve all of the journalists in the UK.
Nothing new. UEFA think this too when they were talking about charging people to watch the last 15 minutes of games etc.
That's pretty embarrassing tbh.