It was absolutely bizarre. Just utterly fecking mental. And then there was that Twatter account making posts about him seemingly every week with statements that got grander and more hyperbolic with each post. A very strange time.
Evan Ferguson - Top Irish Prospect
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Jamie (@Vault Dweller) review both the Everton and Bodø/Glimt victories at Old Trafford. Listen to the guys discuss 2 wins and 7 goals in the last week, analyse of the Amorim formation, focus on Amad and how he is playing, and also take a look at Hojlund, Rashford & Zirkzee – who starts v Arsenal?
It was absolutely bizarre. Just utterly fecking mental. And then there was that Twatter account making posts about him seemingly every week with statements that got grander and more hyperbolic with each post. A very strange time.
Never got the hype with this kid.
Apparently it's one of the myriad of ways agents use to boost their clients perhaps this was one of them.
He injured his knee and then his back last season and as a result got no regular time. Then in April he had to have surgery on his ankle and was out untill September this season. That's why he's been eased slowly back into the team this season. He is still very young, but the boy is a proper talent. I'd be surprised if he does go out on loan in January and our manager has said he has no plans for that, but it won't be entirely Hurzeler's decision.
As for not getting regular game time, the injuries have been a massive issue and we have Rutter, Pedro and Welbeck who have established a brilliant relationship this season making it hard to dislodge them as between them they keep assisting and scoring. I would say at the moment all of Brighton's forwards are at least as good as Hojlund and much better than Rashford in the CF position (though I think Rashford is still an excellent left winger when he's on form)
So it's not a simple case of not being good enough to get game time for us, it may be just me my bias, but I believe Ferguson is up with the very best young strikers coming through at the moment, he only turned 20 last month, he's just started scoring again after a write off of a season and there is a lot lot more to come from him.
I watched his first 4-5 games for Brighton. I thought he was destined to be a star.
He's just turned 20. That is no age for a striker. No reason why he wont be a star in the next 5 years.
So you would take him on loan then?
I'd take him on loan with an option to buy. Otherwise why would it make any sense to loan a guy who still needs development himself, to take away development minutes from the likes of Hojlund, and then we don't even see the benefit at the end of the loan?
If a "still developing" Ferguson gives you more than your current options then it's worth it, even if you don't keep him.
Is the current Ferguson better than Rasmus? No. Is he better than Zirkzee? Maybe.
You've still got a ton of games to play this season and it won't do Rasmus any good to have to start them all.
He looked pretty good, now he looks pretty average.
I really don't like how Brighton managed him tbh. Even when he was good, he'd be taken off at half time and was rotated a lot. He just needs to play at this stage whether it's at Brighton or somewhere else.
I really don't like how Brighton managed him tbh. Even when he was good, he'd be taken off at half time and was rotated a lot. He just needs to play at this stage whether it's at Brighton or somewhere else.
If we have to do a loan only makes sense to get someone at their peak not another inconsistent growing player.
I think someone should try and buy Ferguson on the cheap right now.
It's funny for people on this site in particular saying yes United is the perfect place for a young striker to rediscover their form and fitness, as if ye don't call for players to be killed any time they're low on either.
Players at their peak are rarely available for loan.
It's weird right, they don't even give their own young strikers a break.
I blame Fabinho for his slump. He was doing well and improving all the time, he's never really been able to rediscover his form since then.
Aside from mentioning early goals, what is he supposed to be talented at? He's pretty tall and well built for a youngster, physically developed for his age. What else?
The lads been massively overrated by Irish fans desperate for their next big time player. The Norwegians do the same, every half decent Norwegian kid has his own dedicated thread full of cheerleaders on redcafe.
Chelsea should pick him up. Why risk not having him when you could have him?
Exactly. No big club is going to move on him without an option.
I thought the Brighton manager said he wasn’t going on loan in January ?
I do sometimes wonder if Brighton deserve their reputation for bringing through and developing players. They have great recruitment but they do seem to have patchy fitness records (March, Mitoma, João Pedro, Lamptey, Enciso, Ferguson) now Mintah and Hinshelwood have muscle injuries too.
A few of them would do well to get out and see if other clubs can get them fit and playing consistent football.
A few of them would do well to get out and see if other clubs can get them fit and playing consistent football.
Hey! This may be very true, but hey!! Leave us Norwegians alone. We do not engage in hyperbole. That being said, we probably have the best and most exciting young attack in the world with Nusa, Bobb and Haaland.
xD
Not sure that's true at all. People in Ireland are very tentative about him. I expect it was more to do with Brighton having a reputation for unearthing talent and him having a decent start.
Is this really true?
In my experience absolutely. There is obviously hope, almost desperation, but pretty much every person I know believes he is a raw talent that is as likely to end up in league one as he is to remain in the prem.
for some reason my brain seems to think he’s at everton instead of brighton. i assume that will be his next move as i am never wrong.
If you can get him for cheap it is 100% a move we should be taking. In the States we call these players "bounce back" or "post-hype sleepers." A player who you buy at a cut price because of injury or form but they regain their class and go on to fulfill their potential.
How's his first touch? Can he win headers and bully Defenders? Bring others into play?
I consider these traits to be vital for any striker regardless of scoring record. Hence my not rating of Lukaku and criticism of Hojland.
I guess I'm just used to Rooney, RVP, Ruud.
I consider these traits to be vital for any striker regardless of scoring record. Hence my not rating of Lukaku and criticism of Hojland.
I guess I'm just used to Rooney, RVP, Ruud.
His touch isn't great but he is strong and pretty big.
Genuine question - why does anyone think he would be able to become a top striker here but not at Brighton (who are currently second in the league)?
Did you miss all the goals he was scoring? Goals mean prizes. It’s kinda the point of football.
I cannot tell if this is a joke, hope it is.
I can’t say I ever saw anything incredible but with young players there’s so much you can’t tell. Look at the Swedish lad at Sporting everyone wants now - he was at Brighton and got farmed out, eventually did well enough on loan at Coventry that they bought him. Now is smashing 3 past 115fc in the CL. He’s 26 and most football fans likely didn’t even know who he was until a year ago or so.
I remember I made the point when United offered £50m for him (pre Hojlund) that it was a fair price but people said it was cheap and even bandied around figures like how he was worth 100m. Murtough got a lot wrong but that one was pretty spot on.
We didn't offer anything for him, the crap media said we were thinking about making an offer for him, but there's nothing to back it up.
I agree with your sentiment (it’s true these things are largely unpredictable) but scouting has to have some logic and reasoning to it… so I think my point still stands, I can’t imagine any reason his game would magically elevate here.
Why would that be a joke?
Yes I must have, was that this season? last season? There’s no point bringing another work in progress type striker in on loan when we already have Højlund and Zirkzee. We need guaranteed goals and Ferguson doesn’t provide that, he can’t even get a look in at Brighton, when he isn’t injured that is. He may well turn out to be a good striker in the future but he’s nowhere near yet.
No doubt, whoever signs him would have to be instant title favourites with his 6 league goals a season.