Everyone is up for sale (again)

Can we sell ETH's player to Leverkusen? He can take back Onana, Hojlund, Martinez, Mount, Malacia, Antony.
 
3 gone already, then we got Rashford ,Sancho, Antony, Malacia.. hopefully £100 million for that lot or there abouts.. spent £62 already on Cunha, that leaves not a lot If we get Delap £30 that's it all gone, I'm hoping they can squeeze another £50 million get Mbweno.. look for the odd free transfer maybe..
 
To everyone

I’m a huge fan of Bruno Fernandes and I love Bruno, and I will be heartbroken if Bruno leaves and I have to pic a new man for my member card for the team and this won’t be easy for me, because I stand with Bruno Fernandes and he should stay on the team.
 
HawaiiTom5 said:
To everyone

I’m a huge fan of Bruno Fernandes and I love Bruno, and I will be heartbroken if Bruno leaves and I have to pic a new man for my member card for the team and this won’t be easy for me, because I stand with Bruno Fernandes and he should stay on the team.
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I think he will end up staying
 
It’s obviously still very early days but aside from the obvious names- Antony, Rashford, Garnacho, Sancho- I do wonder how ruthless we’ll be after two dismal seasons and how much will change beyond the forward line. There have to be question marks about the likes of Onana, Bayindir, Shaw, Mount, Casemiro, Dalot. i’m not saying all those players are bad or all should be sold but you’d expect the club to be evaluating them.
 
Irwin99 said:
It’s obviously still very early days but aside from the obvious names- Antony, Rashford, Garnacho, Sancho- I do wonder how ruthless we’ll be after two dismal seasons and how much will change beyond the forward line. There have to be question marks about the likes of Onana, Bayindir, Shaw, Mount, Casemiro, Dalot. i’m not saying all those players are bad or all should be sold but you’d expect the club to be evaluating them.
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The club can be as ruthless as they want. Yet there are no indications that we can sell any of the ones you mentioned, apart from Bayindir and Dalot.

We have a ton of bad players, that no club would consider, or if they did, they'd never offer a contract to entice said players to move. Can you imagine any club, apart from maybe the Saudi League that'd consider Onana as a transfer target, after the last two seasons?
 
Sadly, I can't imagine any top flight club from the big leagues would want Onana as their No. 1.
 
Not onr sale so far makes me worried. Plus all rumours are about loans. It is early but there should be some movement about players who we want to sell.
 
Jund said:
The club can be as ruthless as they want. Yet there are no indications that we can sell any of the ones you mentioned, apart from Bayindir and Dalot.

We have a ton of bad players, that no club would consider, or if they did, they'd never offer a contract to entice said players to move. Can you imagine any club, apart from maybe the Saudi League that'd consider Onana as a transfer target, after the last two seasons?
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Yeah Onana is pretty much a Saudi only sale, same with Casemiro . I think Shaw could attract some interest from Italy but they’d have to take a chance on his fitness and I imagine it would be a low fee.

Obviously you factor in the manager change and the system tweak but it’s interesting that, of the players linked to be leaving, only Garnacho really played any significant part of the season as a whole.
 
With Cunha already on board, Mbuemo possibly next, and then a striker...theoretically that moves Amad to RWB permanently. Does that make Dalot surplus to requirements? Would you play him in a back 3 over Mazraoui? I'd think he could get a decent return from someone...
 
leeroyTX said:
With Cunha already on board, Mbuemo possibly next, and then a striker...theoretically that moves Amad to RWB permanently. Does that make Dalot surplus to requirements? Would you play him in a back 3 over Mazraoui? I'd think he could get a decent return from someone...
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Dalot is great for the squad, can play on both sides and offers a more defensive option when needed.
 
leeroyTX said:
With Cunha already on board, Mbuemo possibly next, and then a striker...theoretically that moves Amad to RWB permanently. Does that make Dalot surplus to requirements? Would you play him in a back 3 over Mazraoui? I'd think he could get a decent return from someone...
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Dalot is one of very few players who potentially we can make some money on.

We need squad depth, he’s got got good fitness levels and is mostly available. He can play multiple roles.

I wouldn’t assume Amad makes WB a perm move. Other players would need to settle, and he could well outperform them.

This is definitely a case of evaluate in a years time.
 
leeroyTX said:
With Cunha already on board, Mbuemo possibly next, and then a striker...theoretically that moves Amad to RWB permanently. Does that make Dalot surplus to requirements? Would you play him in a back 3 over Mazraoui? I'd think he could get a decent return from someone...
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As much as Dalot is limited and not what we need long term - in this window he stays.

Think of all the players who have to leave before him: Anthony/Rashford/Onana/Casemiro/Sancho/Garnacho. That's a lot of work, while future's of Bayinder/Shaw/Hojlund/Collyer remain clouded. Dalot stay's purely due to us being overwhelmed with outgoings this year

He's reliable and half decent. He's lucky cos there is so much work to do elsewhere that he'll stay

I would never play him RCB though - absolutely not good enough, hasn't got the footballing brain to do it and Maz/Yoro are better.

Dalot is an odd one - like the modern day O'Shea - versatile, distinctly average at a couple of positions and always available. Just reeks of "he'll do" rather than "he's a great player" Will he ever be a nailed on elite level player? No. Handy to have around for now
 
Craig Ward said:
As much as Dalot is limited and not what we need long term - in this window he stays.

Think of all the players who have to leave before him: Anthony/Rashford/Onana/Casemiro/Sancho/Garnacho. That's a lot of work, while future's of Bayinder/Shaw/Hojlund/Collyer remain clouded. Dalot stay's purely due to us being overwhelmed with outgoings this year

He's reliable and half decent. He's lucky cos there is so much work to do elsewhere that he'll stay

I would never play him RCB though - absolutely not good enough, hasn't got the footballing brain to do it and Maz/Yoro are better.

Dalot is an odd one - like the modern day O'Shea - versatile, distinctly average at a couple of positions and always available. Just reeks of "he'll do" rather than "he's a great player" Will he ever be a nailed on elite level player? No. Handy to have around for now
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I suppose and if he's willing to accept being a squad player this coming season, then so be it. You're right, he's bang average. Doesn't kill us but also doesn't really do much and in this system, he's locked into wing back only...and we have better players there.
 
I picture United as this booth at a market with a lot of stuff but everyone just walks by and show zero interest. The salesman just sitting their watching his phone…
 
Honestly, from every other club's perspective, why woudn't they just wait to buy any of our want-a-ways?

The closer we get to the end of the window, the more we desperately need funds to purchase players we desperately need to make our first team squad not terrible. Everyone knows this. Agents, other teams, the media etc. Our public falling out with Rashford and Garnacho in particular mean there is absolutely no pressure on teams looking to buy them - they WILL be available.

I'll never understand our club's inability to play the game. What should be happening is we should be getting stories of how impressed the United hierarchy are with Rashford's fitness regime. We SHOULD be leaking that given the prices of other CFs, Amorim and INEOS have analysed Marcus' time at Villa alongside his good finishing metrics and are going to put him up front. Similarly, we SHOULD be seeding stories that Garnacho and Amorim have had great discussions, with Garna now appreciating the tough love because Amorim has explained that he only gives that to players he believes could one day be top 3 in the world at their position, and his belief in Garna is so strong that nothing could prise him away this summer. Antony? We should be briefing that the club barely know what to do with the number of offers received, and the real question is just about where Antony and his family most want to settle, given the host of options.

Instead we're doing the opposite. It's honestly mind-boggling how bad we are. We are the worst club in the world at selling players. I don't think that's an exaggeration.
 
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Beachryan said:
Honestly, from every other club's perspective, why woudn't they just wait to buy any of our want-a-ways?

The closer we get to the end of the window, the more we desperately need funds to purchase players we desperately need to make our first team squad not terrible. Everyone knows this. Agents, other teams, the media etc. Our public falling out with Rashford and Garnacho in particular mean there is absolutely no pressure on teams looking to buy them - they WILL be available.

I'll never understand our club's inability to play the game. What should be happening is we should be getting stories of how impressed the United hierarchy are with Rashford's fitness regime. We SHOULD be leaking that given the prices of other CFs, Amorim and INEOS have analysed Marcus' time at Villa alongside his good finishing metrics and are going to put him up front. Similarly, we SHOULD be seeding stories that Garnacho and Amorim have had great discussions, with Garna now appreciating the tough love because Amorim has explained that he only gives that to players he believes could one day be top 3 in the world at their position, and his belief in Garna is so strong that nothing could prise him away this summer. Antony? We should be briefing that the club barely know what to do with the number of offers received, and the real question is just about where Antony and his family most want to settle, given the host of options.

Instead we're doing the opposite. It's honestly mind-boggling how bad we are. We are the worst club in the world at selling players. I don't think that's an exaggeration.
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The base salaries at Manchester United are too high for the wast majority of clubs in Europe to bother contending with, and the clubs that do have that kind of pull are generally not on the market for failed players.

Very very few professional footballers want to leave money on the table "just to play". The megastars can because they are rich enough already, but your run of the mill squad player on 120k a week? He is not downgrading to 50k a week in a different country.
 
I think it's a huge reality check for those who believe that there was a top player in Rashy, Sancho and Garnacho. There was a time that people suggested they are doing us a favour staying with us
 
devilish said:
I think it's a huge reality check for those who believe that there was a top player in Rashy, Sancho and Garnacho. There was a time that people suggested they are doing us a favour staying with us
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It’s the Adnan syndrome. The squad is so shit that people can’t recognise quality players anymore.

Rashford and Garnacho are both players who rely on their pace and have middling technique.

Sancho has no drive. His career aspiration is probably to have himself on FIFA and he doesn’t care what happens as long as he’s paid.
 
I must say I'm pretty disappointed to not even read from shite sources that Shaw is being linked with a move away from the club. Seems Rashford and Sancho will try to get the club to blink first. In Sancho's case, I hope if things are unresolved in late August and he thinks he'll get a subsidised loan move in order to secure himself a huge sign-on fee next summer, that he'll get a nice surprise by being in the reserves for the whole season. With Rashford, I keep waiting for some United source to brief the media that under no circumstances will he be allowed to leave for Barca on loan without a no-loopholed obligation to buy clause.

With Onana and Casemiro I do hope the club is strongly indicating that they won't be starters and if Casemiro wants to play in the World Cup then it's best for him to move, and the same for Onana, that he'll play about as much as Bayindir did this season.

At least Antony is willing to take a pay cut to facilitate a move, which shows he's got more about him than some people at the club. Amorim handled the Garnacho thing absolutely terribly, it's really impossible to say otherwise, so that situation is pretty delicate. And we'll see whether we can find an ideal loan for Hojlund. I'd give Malacia to whomever wants him (terminate the contract if he can negotiate a decent deal as a free agent).

Hopefully with July upon us the PSR/accounting gymnastics will mean we start seeing serious traction here.
 
Who the hell is going to want to buy the worst players in United’s history.
 
ShinjiNinja26 said:
A lot of which are on wages that far exceed their ability. We’re absolutely fecked by having to rely on sales to fund further transfer business.
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Didn’t help Ruben and SJR calling them so shit has well in public.

Nobody will go anywhere unless we pay them to go.
 
Guv77 said:
Didn’t help Ruben and SJR calling them so shit has well in public.

Nobody will go anywhere unless we pay them to go.
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I think clubs can see for themselves how crap they are. Recruitment is the most important thing in football and ours for both pkayers and managers has been appalling. Superstar wages to midtable players
 
Guv77 said:
Didn’t help Ruben and SJR calling them so shit has well in public.

Nobody will go anywhere unless we pay them to go.
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Teams were queuing up for our players before we let it slip that they were all actually shite.
 
A combination of high fees and/or high wages, with massive underformance(s) is coming home to roost. Short of giving most of them away for free/paying them off, I don't see another solution. We'll be stuck with them for a couple of years, if not longer - if some of them prefer running their contract(s) down.
 
Difficult team to sell. I think we will sell less people than most dare to realise.

Sancho would leave permanently or on loan. With one year left on his contract and his negative influence on the team, I do not see a scenario where he is part of the team. Later or sooner, an agreement would be reached with someone.

Fredricson would leave on loan. With 7 CBs (including Shaw and Mazz) and no european football, the only right thing to do would be loan him out somewhere where he is guaranteed playing time to develop and hopefully comeback next season and fight as a bench option.

Malacia would leave permanently. He is on low salaries and wouldn't require a high transfer fee. Should be doable to find a suitable club for him at some point.

Gore would leave permanently. With one year left on his contract, and last two years gone with big injuries, he rightly, need to leave to start over again. A buyback clause and high sell% should be our highest priority rather than a high transfer fee which I doubt anyone would pay.

Garnacho would leave permanently. I would like him to stay as he is very young still and very few players at 20 usually have the impact and numbers that he has shown so far but given the fact that we need cash and him being an easier target for many big clubs he would leave.

Antony would leave permanently. I wouldn't mind him staying and playing cover for Amad on RWB (still think he might do good here) but as we need cash and his good performance in Spain last year, he should be a good and realistic target for many clubs.

Wheatley would leave on loan. 19 years old and is not yet ready to play second field for us. Need to go out on loan and gain experience. However, very important to send him somewhere where he is guarnateed playing time. Evans, do youthing!

According to Transfermarkt, we currently have 33 players on the first team. Above 7 players are realistic and doable players that most likely would leave bringing us down to 26 players which is still too many players without Europe and the fact that more players would be bought. Every other player we manage to sell/loan beyond above players are bonus but also bigger challenge to sell.
 
Guv77 said:
Didn’t help Ruben and SJR calling them so shit has well in public.

Nobody will go anywhere unless we pay them to go.
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I am afraid it is more looks like that now.
Rashford,Sancho,Antony,Garnacho,Hoijlund,Onana and even Casemiro.

So many players needs to be shipped out on bargains and I hate those low ball loan deal proposals. I wish we can write off for one time and give them an ultimatum to take up any other permanent offers or rot in the reserves. we can do it as they care about a place in the world cup team so hope they don't dare to play games with us.
 
Onerealunited said:
Difficult team to sell. I think we will sell less people than most dare to realise.

Sancho would leave permanently or on loan. With one year left on his contract and his negative influence on the team, I do not see a scenario where he is part of the team. Later or sooner, an agreement would be reached with someone.

Fredricson would leave on loan. With 7 CBs (including Shaw and Mazz) and no european football, the only right thing to do would be loan him out somewhere where he is guaranteed playing time to develop and hopefully comeback next season and fight as a bench option.

Malacia would leave permanently. He is on low salaries and wouldn't require a high transfer fee. Should be doable to find a suitable club for him at some point.

Gore would leave permanently. With one year left on his contract, and last two years gone with big injuries, he rightly, need to leave to start over again. A buyback clause and high sell% should be our highest priority rather than a high transfer fee which I doubt anyone would pay.

Garnacho would leave permanently. I would like him to stay as he is very young still and very few players at 20 usually have the impact and numbers that he has shown so far but given the fact that we need cash and him being an easier target for many big clubs he would leave.

Antony would leave permanently. I wouldn't mind him staying and playing cover for Amad on RWB (still think he might do good here) but as we need cash and his good performance in Spain last year, he should be a good and realistic target for many clubs.

Wheatley would leave on loan. 19 years old and is not yet ready to play second field for us. Need to go out on loan and gain experience. However, very important to send him somewhere where he is guarnateed playing time. Evans, do youthing!

According to Transfermarkt, we currently have 33 players on the first team. Above 7 players are realistic and doable players that most likely would leave bringing us down to 26 players which is still too many players without Europe and the fact that more players would be bought. Every other player we manage to sell/loan beyond above players are bonus but also bigger challenge to sell.
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What about Casemiro, Rasmus,Rashford and Onana?

Case said he wants to stick around, I still feel his huge wages are a waste of money. I like him as a person but he is not cut for EPL.
 
Oldyella said:
Teams were queuing up for our players before we let it slip that they were all actually shite.
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Garnacho to Napoli for 50mil + add ons was an inch from "here we go" in late January.
 
Bobby_2024 said:
What about Casemiro, Rasmus,Rashford and Onana?

Case said he wants to stick around, I still feel his huge wages are a waste of money. I like him as a person but he is not cut for EPL.
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Above is not my wish list. Its players I think we have a realistic chance to get rid off.

Casemiro is going nowhere with the wages he has. He also want to say one more year. Rashford is going nowhere as he is not willing to reduce wages. Most likely scenario for Rashford is a loan at the end of the summer transfer season. I don’t think the club has a priority to replace Onana this transfer season. Also been confirmed by a few journos. Hojlund will only leave if we manage to sign a new forward which seems a bigger challenge for every day we pass. Would not be surprised that we sign Mbeumo and Cunha, then we continue with Hojlund and Zirkzee, maybe even Rashford as a substitute ST
 
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