Irwin's Instagram was better than Evra's.
Evra’s Instagram post
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I do remember that game and it wasn't as bad as you say, but everyone has 1 or 2 bad games. Remember when he came here he was a RB and then converted to the left. He always got a high rating over the season.
I doubt he said Irwin delivered a minimum 8/10 performance in every game or actually believed it.
We were on the receiving end of some maulings in the 90s against the likes of Barcelona, Chelsea, and Newcastle, so I really doubt that he would have given the entire team the hairdryer treatment except for Irwin who he kept to the side thanked for giving another 8/10 performance.
Such hyperbole isn't helpful when debating who the better player was. If he delivered a minimum 8/10 performance every game he'd be regarded as one of the all time footballing greats.
I do think Irwin is a little overrated on here. Of course, by overrated I simply mean that he wasn't comfortably better than Evra which many seem to be saying. I would say Evra's peak 3 years were probably better than Irwin's, but Irwin perhaps was at his best for longer. The league was nowhere near as strong in Irwin's day, quite a bit behind some of the other european leagues. Whereas during Evra's time it was the strongest league in the world, and Evra had a three year period where he was almost undisputedly the best leftback in the world. Irwin never reached that level. Obviously he had some greats of the game playing at the same time (particularly in Italy) so it was more difficult, but Irwin was never even in the reckoning in those discussions.
Of course, if making our best 11 team we'd fit them both in by having Irwin play on the right.
Of course, if making our best 11 team we'd fit them both in by having Irwin play on the right.
Exactly the point I was making....I never left a game thinking Irwin was unreal today.
Irwin scored plenty goals, loads of penalties and freekicks too. And played in an era where tackling was actually allowed! Don't know why so many disregard the PL in the 90's it was fecking epic no debate! Whats so different now? 2 teams dominating and the rest miles behind, that's always been the case. Actually we've seen more 1 horse races in the noughties than 90's.
You didn't need to after any game in particular, because he delivered a high level of performance consistently.
That's why I said he was a good player, a really good player but overrated. He wasn't unreal.
Agree with this.I love Patrice,but he’s clearly out of order for putting this out at this moment.I want Ole to be sacked and I also would like to see Allegri take over,but this kind of behaviour is condemnable....
I am also confused. I thougt that he talks about him as as.manager and Allegri as manager but surely he would not post that while Ole is still our manager. Strange post
I love Evra but Irwin was the better all round player
Actually.. I don’t think it’s true because I don’t think Evra would undermine our current manager in such a disrespectful way and if he did I would not want him to as part of future coaching set-up. But don’t get me wrong I think Ole is the worse manager in the premier league, completely out of his depth, but still there’s something’s you don’t do.
like Gary Neville has shown. Understanding and analysing the fans are too different things. In the older stays specially it’s arguable that less intelligent but more boisterous and loud people like say Sam Allerdyce would make better managers then more intelligent and knowledgeable people, to some extent that’s still the case. Like in anything those that are followed and listened too are rarely the most intelligent, usually charisma, and other skills influence people more.
This is a really poor post. To put it in perspective Cafu, a legendary attacking full back scored 12 career goals. Denis Irwin scored 33. By any measure, he was not poor going forwards. And he, evidently, crossed the half way line quite a lot.
Wowwwwww have you ever watched him ? Blimey
I've previously stated Irwin's ser-piece proficency - but otherwise for consistent attacking prowess, once again, show some proof please. Because what I diagnose here is a major case of nostalgia delusion.
As I've stated before, in the uncommon occurance he passed the half-way line in open play, his modus operandi was to cut inside his winger, and if getting the ball to have a poor shot on goal.
You want to state otherwise, provide some goddamn proof or stop whining and face reality. Again, youtube has a plethora of clips, there should be no problem. Or do you not remember any specific matches from Irwin's long and genuinely wonderful career where he does what you believe?
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He’s a mad bastard.
you want proof? Just go check out our 92/93 & 93/94 highlights.
denis irwin not going pass the halfway line often is genuinely one of the stupidest comment I have come across on this forum. Seriously, please. If you have never watched him played live, just shut the feck up.
Definitely worth the 5-year bump.
Andy Carroll in the photo
It is but to be fair mostly because Irwin's Instagram was equally adept at playing on the right and the left.