First of all, Evra isn't a victim.
Assuming at least some of it happened at the corner where Marriner dragged them out Evra did make a huge deal out of it. He was absolutely livid and kept complaining which is why he got booked. What more can he do then?
Did you even read the link you provided you thundercnut?
Read the article you retard.
Top research, my man. Top research.
Are we now saying he got booked for reporting racial abuse?
Exactly. I thought at the time Evra's reaction after the corner was very uncharacteristic for him, I guess now we know why.
"What motive does Evra have" is not a valid proof to label someone a racist though.
C'mon now, nothing is certain in this. We just have to sit and wait, Evra might not be able to prove it. It's a very serious accusation though and I'd like to know when Evra gave this interview, was it in the aftermath of the game when emotions might have been a bit high or did he have a few hours to think before he revealed it.
No, I'm saying he was booked for persistent complaining. Marriner couldn't do much else really, given that he hadn't heard it, could he? Like he'd book a player for complaining about a foul he hadn't seen.
So I guess calling him a piece of shit qualifies as a racist remark.
Seems he comes from the redman5 school of research.'fordy87' on RAWK has claimed that Evra has accused 3 people before of racism, and "all turned out to be innocent".
I don't think Evra called him a racist though. I think he said Suarez tried to provoke him into a reaction by using a racist word.
The use of the word 'victim' and 'convict' was, I thought, a fairly transparent nod to the law in terms of punishing someone for their behaviour. It was really the least important thing I said.
The video doesn't really show much other than two players antagonizing each other.
I didn't say otherwise.
I was talking to Boss.
Isn't that more or less what i was saying. Suarez is a sneaky cnut & probably chose his times when to say it to Evra ie. when he knew no cameras would be on them or the action was up the far end of the pitch. My guess is that since Evra claimed it was said to him 10 times that thats exactly what happened. I don't doubt Evra at all.
Still I'd be amazed if that was the complaint the booking was for. Big call from the ref. I'd have thought that would be too risky, just in case the lad was telling the truth, considering what he was saying.
That's what I mean about this backfiring. That's a story that would spread.'fordy87' on RAWK has claimed that Evra has accused 3 people before of racism, and "all turned out to be innocent".
I know, but it will never be proven, given their criteria.
Just need some evidence, like being caught on a microphone (see Ron Atkinson).
Yeah but how is Suarez supposed to know where each of the camera's are, chances are there are cameras on loads of things which haven't been seen on TV coverage.
Well, what can Marriner do if Evra keeps complaining? I think Marriner talked to Evra several times during the match and he certainly had a long talk with both Evra and Suarez before the corner was taken. Apparently Evra kept complaining after the corner had been dealt with, so he got a booking. You can't just let a player complain just in case what he's saying is true - no matter what the complaint is about. Marriner obviously didn't hear it, so there's nothing he can do about it no matter how much Evra complains.
feck off Pete.
I'm surprised pete.
Maybe, but still a risky booking to give out, as the ref I'd talk to other players or even the manager, it's racism; different to an alleged foul IMO.
Err, yeah
They normally talk to the captain is situations like that, but that was Evra today. Could've talked to Rio though, I suppose. I don't think I've ever seen a ref going over to have a chat with the manager.
