So for the championship standings Hamilton gets +3 points whereas Max gets +1 increasing the gap between them by another 2 points.
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Makes sense to the Hammy haters
Thinking about the restart, another interesting thing is that not a single team was willing to gamble and put on slicks under red flag. Essentially all the teams had a theoretical chance of being in Ocon's position, as anyone who had taken that gamble would have started on the grid and could have opened a 5+ second lead to start.
Yeah i'm not having that really.
Alonso's tyres weren't old, and it clearly wasn't easy to over take as not many over takes actually happened in the race.
Hamilton couldn't get close enough with the dirty air in the last 2 corners, and was never close enough to attack properly into turn 1. When he did then Alonso defended perfectly, pushing him wide knowing Hamilton had more risk.
He had to keep pressuring him and wait for the mistake which eventually came.
He didn't overtake Sainz because he figured something out differently, Sainz's tyres were shot as he'd done 1 less pitstop.
Drivers and Constructors after Race 11 Revised
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| Driver | Team | Wins | Points | |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Lewis Hamilton | Mercedes | 4 | 195 |
| 2 | Max Verstappen | Red Bull | 5 | 187 |
| 3 | Lando Norris | McLaren | 0 | 113 |
| 4 | Valtteri Bottas | Mercedes | 0 | 108 |
| 5 | Sergio Perez | Red Bull | 1 | 104 |
| 6 | Carlos Sainz Jr. | Ferrari | 0 | 83 |
| 7 | Charles Leclerc | Ferrari | 0 | 80 |
| 8 | Daniel Ricciardo | McLaren | 0 | 50 |
| 9 | Pierre Gasly | AlphaTauri | 0 | 49 |
| 10 | Esteban Ocon | Alpine | 1 | 39 |
| 11 | Fernando Alonso | Alpine | 0 | 38 |
| 12 | Sebastian Vettel | Aston Martin | 0 | 30 |
| 13 | Yuki Tsunoda | AlphaTauri | 0 | 18 |
| 14 | Lance Stroll | Aston Martin | 0 | 18 |
| 15 | Nicholas Latifi | Williams | 0 | 6 |
| 16 | George Russell | Williams | 0 | 4 |
| 17 | Kimi Raikkonen | Alfa Romeo | 0 | 2 |
| 18 | Antonio Giovinazzi | Alfa Romeo | 0 | 1 |
| 19 | Mick Schumacher | Haas | 0 | 0 |
| 20 | Nikita Mazepin | Haas | 0 | 0 |
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| Team | Wins | Points | |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Mercedes | 4 | 303 |
| 2 | Red Bull | 6 | 291 |
| 3 | Ferrari | 0 | 163 |
| 4 | McLaren | 0 | 163 |
| 5 | Alpine | 1 | 77 |
| 6 | AlphaTauri | 0 | 67 |
| 7 | Aston Martin | 0 | 48 |
| 8 | Williams | 0 | 10 |
| 9 | Alfa Romeo | 0 | 3 |
| 10 | Haas | 0 | 0 |
I'll remember that when Pool come to OT.
The number of posters on other site that dont know the basic rules and penalties in F1 is shocking.
Also not forgetting Hammy's got a touch of long covid which can effect his mind set? thinking.
I think people notice them because the camera is on him for massively longer than anyone else. If the camera sat on Mick Schumacher for 90% of the race you'd have more of an opinion about him than you would Hamilton.
I told you before why some people may have been touchy about the booing. We were led to believe last week that Max’s fans were some kind of shining light on morales. I honestly don’t give a shit about the booing, but if you saw some of the posts about Silverstone, you’d probably understand why I pointed it out today.
Shame for Sebastian after a solid drive today.
That daft DQ and the bizarre situation with Hamilton alone on the grid shows you that for all the money spent on tech and strategy, the strangest human mistakes can still decide races.
That daft DQ and the bizarre situation with Hamilton alone on the grid shows you that for all the money spent on tech and strategy, the strangest human mistakes can still decide races.
Motorsport is not football, and hopefully it stays that way
When the inevitable Hillsborough and Munich chants come will you be readying yourself to taunt rival F1 teams about drivers that died in accidents?
But, it is a sport. Nothing wrong with booing.
What site was that, and i think they should bring in a 10 place grid penalty, it doesn’t make sense to me that you can pick up a 5 place grid penalty for taking out 1 car or multiple cars like bottas did today.
Also you can see why Horner is banging on about the financial impact of crashes this year he’s preparing for next years $145 million spending cap, as team who’s car has been wrote off or badly damaged will spend millions repairing it while while the one who caused it might have minimal damage.
Even Toto was talking about the cap and it’s implications on crashes.
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/...-makes-big-accidents-quite-a-concern/6362929/
Also hopefully some good can come from Hamilton’s long Covid that it shows the impact it has on an athlete in top shape, what would it do to the every day man and might get more sceptics to get vaxed
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The cost cap is already in place right? I think if you suffer damage and it isn't your fault the repairs should be excluded from the cost cap and if you need a new engine it shouldn't be counted as an engine swap. If not you get punished twice if someone does a Bottas and torpedoes your car and that doesn't seem fair to me.
Go to watch a rally stage and stand on the side and boo and you will be looked at like a nob. I think the same applies to f1.
Want to go and boo and act like a child goto the football. Each to their own, I just think it’s childish as feck.
Want to go and boo and act like a child goto the football. Each to their own, I just think it’s childish as feck.
You really do just have to laugh at the FIA.
Vettel has 700mL too little fuel in his car and gets a disqualification.
Bottas plays skittles with half the pack and gets a 5 place grid penalty.
Comical.
Vettel has 700mL too little fuel in his car and gets a disqualification.
Bottas plays skittles with half the pack and gets a 5 place grid penalty.
Comical.
I can see why people boo situations (including when they're announcing line-ups), but booing someone during an interview seems pretty lame to me - even if you don't get a lot of other opportunities in racing to boo someone. (It's not like they'll hear it during the race!) But I'm anyway not into all the partisan stuff, I know that's rare, and I'm not expecting to change anyone's mind on that sort of thing.
Different sport mate. Very different.
It's an old rule that comes from teams that used to run more explosive fuel, get extra power and then use it all up so it couldn't be traced.
Obviously that would be a very unfair advantage, so if you were caught you'd be expelled.
Unfortunately it doesn't translate quite so well to the modern day rulings, but cars often don't run out of fuel that low.
Seb was obviously chasing hard to try and pass Ocon, and then towards the end he couldn't go into fuel saving mode as Ham/Alonso were catching at a rate of knots.
It's a very unfortunate situation, but those are the rules.
Key difference is respect and risk. F1 drivers (and rally drivers) have historically put their lives on the line to entertain. In decades gone by a driver would be killed almost every race.
Footballers less so.
Totally different culture.
Reason being they need to test the fuel to ensure cheating is not going on.
It's the equivalent of missing a drugs test.
Ask Rio about that.
Too little fuel in the car, potental cheating.
Bottas misjudging the wet slippery track is not potential cheating.
2 totally different situations.
Yes, I agree with thatKey difference is respect and risk. F1 drivers (and rally drivers) have historically put their lives on the line to entertain. In decades gone by a driver would be killed almost every race.
Footballers less so.
Totally different culture.
edit: did mean to quote @Pscholes18 post in my previous post but just realised I didn’t
Wasn't able to see the race today. Shame to hear a Merc took out Max out for the second week in a row.
If you can't beat him on the track, I suppose knocking him off the track every week is a bold but admittedly effective response.
If you can't beat him on the track, I suppose knocking him off the track every week is a bold but admittedly effective response.
That didn’t happen
There's no consistency at all, same thing when Giovinazzi got a 10sec stop&go for speeding in the pitlane while Raikkonen was only given a 10sec penalty for crashing into Mazepin in the pits and ending his race.
It is the same rules for everyone so it's not unfair in that sense, but there's definitely a lot of room for improvement in my eyes.
Is this supposed to be ironic ?
Yes, of course, but I guarantee you they can test the fuel just fine with 300mL instead of a litre. It's a very archaic rule.
What I wonder is why with such an ultra hi tech vehicle there is not a system for warning that the current consumption will lead to rule violation.
After reading this thread the last few weeks I honestly don’t know whether the people laughing at my post saying that didn’t happen agree with me or think that it did happen! 
100kg starts the race, they know how much fuel that is meant to be using, it finishes with less fuel then it breaks the rules.
OK it maybe be archaic but its what they have to work with.
When was the last time there was a DQ because of it, I cant remember.
What on earth...
Aren’t most of you lot supposed to be British? Why do you dislike Lewis Hamilton so much lol?