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I didn’t know that, fair enough.

I meant more for the fans/atmosphere they’ve brought, because of Max though. I wasn’t insinuating that they’d keep it there just because 1 man wanted it :lol:

It was a great track, aesthetically, but not the type that brings a lot of exciting racing. Hopefully they can make it wider or something
No, I got that. :) But I could imagine F1 prioritizing keeping a track on the schedule (as long as it makes financial sense) because it's the home track of a racer who's a likely WC contestant for the foreseeable future.

Except it's not his home track. I confuse myself. :lol: Dutch media pretty much treat it as such though; Spa is pretty much just another track in Dutch media.
 

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No, I got that. :) But I could imagine F1 prioritizing keeping a track on the schedule (as long as it makes financial sense) because it's the home track of a racer who's a likely WC contestant for the foreseeable future.

Except it's not. I confuse myself. :lol:
You won't be saying that next year watching the Max Verstappen Dutch GP 2022 :lol:
 

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With Mazepin we're so lucky Haas have such a shit car.

If he was in a Haas with the sort of pace they used to have, fighting in the points, he'd be causing massive incidents every race. Whereas now he's only really a danger to Mick and to himself.
 

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Just looked it up, was Al Pease at the 1969 Canadian GP.

While looking it up, also came across a guy who paid for a free practice seat, binned the car and was then stuck in the car as he didn't know how to remove the steering wheel so had to stay in the car as it was recovered by the marshalls.

What I'm saying is, Mazepin hasn't quite hit their levels... Yet :lol:

Edit: I've found video of the free practice guy and you can see him in the car as it's picked up by the crane :lol:

 

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With Mazepin we're so lucky Haas have such a shit car.

If he was in a Haas with the sort of pace they used to have, fighting in the points, he'd be causing massive incidents every race. Whereas now he's only really a danger to Mick and to himself.
Good thing he won't be moved to any other team ever :lol:
 

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With Mazepin we're so lucky Haas have such a shit car.

If he was in a Haas with the sort of pace they used to have, fighting in the points, he'd be causing massive incidents every race. Whereas now he's only really a danger to Mick and to himself.
Just my thoughts as well, if he was in a McClaren he would have been a massive danger to everyone.
 

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Nice for Verstappen to win here. The hype has been crazy, can imagine that puts a bit of pressure on someone.

Boring race though.
 

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As some drivers showed you can overtake , it requires greater skill but is possible. Also, the prognosis for pandemonium at the start was wrong, it was a nice race at the end.
there was literally zero over takes that weren’t aided by newer tyres.

the only thing that made this race half watchable was the high degradation.

if they keep coming here in the future they need to make sure they use the softest tyres possible to take away 1 stop strategy.
 

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The guys on the wall and back at the factory will always have more info than Lewis, it's the right call today.
it wasn’t pitting again which was the issue, it was the fact they put him into traffic.

wait 1/2 laps longer and he’s passed the ricciardo train and flying in free air.

the minute they put him behind other cars completely destroyed the under cut advantage, that’s why he’s annoyed.

he said himself the tyres were fine to keep pushing, they had zero reasons to pit him that early other than they miscalculated it and fecked it up.
 

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Everybody says 2nd was the best Merc could hope for, but as Lewis said, Max just 'got lucky with traffic'.

Lucky, lucky boy
Lewis also said Max 'drove a fantastic race' and admitted he 'couldn't get anywhere near him', but I guess those quotes don't fit your agenda.
 

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Is Lewis ever happy on the radio
Only when he wins. "Great job guys, absolutely stunning. Bono, the pit crew, the boys back at the factory, thank you from the bottom of my heart. Couldn't have done it without the amazing team."

Or else its just "fecks sake I said these tires were worn out, I have no grip Bono" etc.
 
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True, I’m just hoping with the new cars next year, Ferrari can finally get there act together and offer some real competition to RB and the mercs
I do agree.
I won't lie. I don't like Hamilton so I am an anyone but fan, but I really like Norris.
It's a shame talent like Norris and Leclerc have to rely on teams getting their acts together.

The fact that Merc and Red bull have talent pools, these guys will always find it tough to get a look in, so it needs more competition
 

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I do agree.
I won't lie. I don't like Hamilton so I am an anyone but fan, but I really like Norris.
It's a shame talent like Norris and Leclerc have to rely on teams getting their acts together.

The fact that Merc and Red bull have talent pools, these guys will always find it tough to get a look in, so it needs more competition
To be honest, I root for Hamilton against Verstappen because he's English, but I'm not that huge of a fan of him. Leclerc is my favourite driver.
 

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Everybody says 2nd was the best Merc could hope for, but as Lewis said, Max just 'got lucky with traffic'.

Lucky, lucky boy
He was just bitching and moaning the whole race but in reality his car wasn’t as fast as the Red Bull’s. Just suck it and move on and complain less next time.
 

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Only when he wins. "Great job guys, absolutely stunning. Bono, the pit crew, the boys back at the factory, thank you from the bottom of my heart. Couldn't have done it without the amazing team."

Or else its just "fecks sake I said these tires were worn out, I have no grip Bono" etc.
This is literally how every driver talks.

When the car is good they're happy, when it's not working well they moan and want more grip or power.

I've heard Max say it constantly, especially last year when he couldn't get close to the Mercs.
 
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RankDriverNumberTeamGridPitsFastest LapRace TimePointsPts
1Max Verstappen33Red Bull121:13.2751:30:05.39525
2Lewis Hamilton44Mercedes23
fastest overall lap 1:11.097
20.932 behind19
3Valtteri Bottas77Mercedes321:12.54956.460 behind15
4Pierre Gasly10AlphaTauri411:14.8181 lap behind12
5Charles Leclerc16Ferrari511:14.7801 lap behind10
6Fernando Alonso14Alpine911:14.3231 lap behind8
7Carlos Sainz Jnr55Ferrari611:15.2601 lap behind6
8Sergio Perez11Red Bullnot available21:13.4611 lap behind4
9Esteban Ocon31Alpine811:14.6751 lap behind2
10Lando Norris4McLaren1311:14.2361 lap behind1
11Daniel Ricciardo3McLaren1011:14.9201 lap behind00
12Lance Stroll18Aston Martin1211:15.6112 laps behind00
13Sebastian Vettel5Aston Martin1521:13.9582 laps behind00
14Antonio Giovinazzi99Alfa Romeo721:15.1252 laps behind00
15Robert Kubica88Alfa Romeo1611:15.4422 laps behind00
16Nicholas Latifi6Williamsnot available11:15.7902 laps behind00
17George Russell63Williams1121:15.6283 laps behind00
18Mick Schumacher47Haas1721:15.9273 laps behind00
not classifiedYuki Tsunoda22AlphaTauri1411:15.783did not finish completed 48 laps00
not classifiedNikitMazepin9Haas1811:16.066did not finish completed 41 laps00
 
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1Max VerstappenRed Bull77224.5
2Lewis HamiltonLMercedes44221.5
3Valtteri BottasMercedes00123
4Lando NorrisMcLaren00114
5Sergio PerezRed Bull11108
6Charles LeclercFerrari0092
7Carlos Sainz JrFerrari0089.5
8Pierre GaslyAlphaTauri0066
9Daniel RicciardoMcLaren0056
10Fernando AlonsoAlpine0046
11Esteban OconAlpine1144
12Sebastian VettelAston Martin0035
13Yuki TsunodaAlphaTauri0018
14Lance StrollAston Martin0018
15George RussellWilliams0013
16Nicholas LatifiWilliams007
17Kimi RaikkonenAlfa Romeo002
18Antonio GiovinazziAlfa Romeo001
19Mick SchumacherHaas000
20Nikita MazepinHaas000
21Robert KubicaAlfa Romeo000


1Mercedes4344.5
2Red Bull8332.5
3Ferrari0181.5
4McLaren0170
5Alpine190
6AlphaTauri084
7Aston Martin053
8Williams020
9Alfa Romeo03
10Haas00
 

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Brilliantly done by Gasly once again. I'm surprised actually that he's only 8th in the standings. Must be selective memory on my part (only remembering when he ends this high in a race).
 

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Not the best GP to watch. The RBs were ridiculously fast today.

Mercedes should just put Russell in the Mercedes now, bottas is utterly useless. So far off the pace its ridiculous. If Perez hadn't screwed up qually it could have been a RB 1-2 today, they were that good today.
 

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Max/RB very impressive today, extremely strong weekend.

I enjoyed the race in the same way you might enjoy a good 0-0 draw. Potential strategies kept it interesting & the track/crowd was cool.

Hope they can tweak the DRS zones next year to allow closer following. This track seems more aero sensitive than most, as soon as anyone got within 3 secs they suffered badly. New regs should help with that.

Merc are usually very strong at Monza. Should be another close battle next weekend.
 

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Wtf?!? Bottas took away fastest lap from lewis. Jesus. Fire the twat already.

Edit: lewis got it on last lap. Bloody hell thay was close. Excellent drive from max. That RB is a brilliant car this year.
 

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Brilliantly done by Gasly once again. I'm surprised actually that he's only 8th in the standings. Must be selective memory on my part (only remembering when he ends this high in a race).
he’s had a few early DNFs, some bad strategy calls too. when it all aligns for him though he’s clearly very quick and suited to that car.

You suspect he will be Alpines next target to replace Alonso in 2 years if he keeps it up.
 

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Max/RB very impressive today, extremely strong weekend.

I enjoyed the race in the same way you might enjoy a good 0-0 draw. Potential strategies kept it interesting & the track/crowd was cool.

Hope they can tweak the DRS zones next year to allow closer following. This track seems more aero sensitive than most, as soon as anyone got within 3 secs they suffered badly. New regs should help with that.

Merc are usually very strong at Monza. Should be another close battle next weekend.
Well put , never thought of it in those terms.
 

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Merc crying over the radio to Bottas to not take fastest lap was the highlight of the race. My god the cringe.
 

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What happened to mazeshit to dnf?

His move on Schumacher at the start of the race was a joke. Mick needs to get the feck out of there ASAP.

If the car is remotely good next season and Mick performs, can see Carlos getting yeeted out.

No idea why smooth operator took that role. He was never going to be anything more than a back up driver to leclerc.