Makes sense. Tough of course, but rules are rules.
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Correct decisions. On both counts
(Spare a thought for poor Seb though
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(Spare a thought for poor Seb though
)Oh the drama between Toto and Horner that we are about to see in DTS 
So he starts sprint race from the back? Which means he will start the actual race near the back too - as he will not be able to make it up too far the grid, and then get his penalty. That’s the title I think. A shame, but if the rules were broken they were broken.
I do wonder whether this was 1 last hail mary from Mercedes. The silly thing is they seemed genuinely quick here, why would they need to cheat on a track they're doing well at?
Meh. It's max's title now. What an anti climax that is.
Meh. It's max's title now. What an anti climax that is.
They had to do it, but the title race is over now, which is a shame.
Yeah.
Honestly don't believe they tried to cheat, just doesn't make any sense for the reasons you mention.
I hope it wasn’t intentional. But I think there is still a lot of facts to come out of this.
What is interesting is Max must have either had an inkling, been told something, or it was just that obvious something was wrong, given he was looking at it.
Scenes when Max crashes on lap one with Bottas.
Will be fun to see how high he can climb through the race
Unlikely to be able to mount a challenge unless there is some rain and he just happens to get lucky with pit stop timings / strategy
It was probabky 90% maxs title before this... its now 99.9%... well deserved and hopefully the battle will continue next season between red bull and merc (or perhaps with the new regs somebody else can get in the mix with a brawn / double diffuser type of innovation)
More likely Bottas rolls out the red carpet for Max and takes out a charging Hamilton on lap.30Scenes with Max crashes on lap one with Bottas.
Can't see bottas doing that... id be careful lapping russel though if I were maxScenes when Max crashes on lap one with Bottas.
Interesting that the stewards agreed it was an unintentional fault but still disqualified Lewis.
Also nice to see that Lewis wasn't trying to make a big deal out of Max's handsy investigation.
It's just a shame with the timing, Lewis had a slim (very slim) chance in the title fight before, but it's done and dusted now.
Not great for Mercedes, but with the way this season has played out so far you get a feeling it's not really 100% over for them yet. Many strange things can still happen.
Expected DQ for Lewis, can't argue with it.
Max 50k fine bit heavy handed.
Max 50k fine bit heavy handed.
Lewis has around 7% chance of winning, around 35% chance of podium and Max has around 20% chance of not finishing. Nothing is over.
The fine is confusing considering so many drivers do it. I guess they wanted to show they're punishing Max for something.
Shame so little time is left I bet Merc would have to change more engine parts or the whole thing.
Shame so little time is left I bet Merc would have to change more engine parts or the whole thing.
I mean, it’s the right decision. It’s just it’s been such a good season it’s a shame it’s probably ending like this.
Think they were really clear about the fine and also clear that now its 100% established drivers shouldn't do it they can potentially expect bigger punishments in future
The shame is we likely won’t see it come down to the last couple of races, which always brings excitement just because anything can happen.
Sprint race is bollocks but this kind of weekend is the worst one to be going from the back, he’s going to drop 3 points before they even start the race.
Sprint race is bollocks but this kind of weekend is the worst one to be going from the back, he’s going to drop 3 points before they even start the race.
So Lewis starts at the back for the sprint. If he gains say 5 places in the sprint he goes back to the back of the grid for the 5 place penalty? What a nightmare . Can he take any new parts now for "free"?
. Can he take any new parts now for "free"?Double whammy isn’t it.So Lewis starts at the back for the sprint. If he gains say 5 places in the sprint he goes back to the back of the grid for the 5 place penalty? What a nightmare
He can’t take another ICE but he could in theory take another set of all the other elements I think.
So just to understand that correctly, if this was a normal race with no sprint qualifying, his penalty for changing the engine would be void due to his DQ in qualifying?
His far is so fast I can legitimately see him finishing top 10 . Do think mercedes should consider putting on new parts after the sprint is over though depending on where he ends upSo Lewis starts at the back for the sprint. If he gains say 5 places in the sprint he goes back to the back of the grid for the 5 place penalty? What a nightmare
This is fascinating.
I was 8 when Juve were playing United in semi-finals in 1999 and I still remember nearly crying when we were losing in the second leg and my parents wanted to go visit my grandparents cuz of some urgent situation and when we came there and I turned on TV i saw United is winning and was overwhelmed eith happiness.
So not entirely impossible.
Edit: thinking about more better example since it's from F1 is Shumi and Villeneuve battle and the incident in the last year in 97 when i was 6 year old. I remember it clearly like it happened yesterday.
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Title over I think barring a DNF for Verstappen. It’ll be interesting to see if Merc roll the dice and turn up the engines to max.
Yes. Feels very much like that to me as well.
Too many things stacking up on Hamilton. But we all know that he will push right to the end.
I reckon he’ll just about be okay to pay it.
He will not be paying it. Red Bull will.
There is no suggestion at all that Mercedes have cheated. The statement from the FIA clearly states that they believe that there has been some kind of problem.
And the rear wing has been physically checked a number of times before.
Hamilton will breeze up the field today. And even if he's starting at the back tomorrow, he'll still finish on the podium.
With that new engine he's got the fastest car on the grid by a mile.
With that new engine he's got the fastest car on the grid by a mile.
Again, I think they will be okay.
Maybe. Double hit for Red Bull though, so may struggle
If they pay his 50k fine, they also have to pay him a bonus for getting pole in quali, so a double whammy!
something doesn’t add up, ive never heard of a mechanical failure that allows it to open up more than normal.
unless it’s a very freak and unique situation id say they either messed up and it broke, or it didn’t get tested properly in the first place
So its damn near impossible to overtake at Interlagos, right? Or ís that an exagguration?
first corner is the only real area to be honest but it’s not impossible around here, maybe the first DRS zone also if you get a good exit from the first chicane.