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Nothing wrong with qually. Leave it alone. At least till Hamilton has retired.
 

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Pointless, the current format works in my opinion. Some of the best races last year was when the teams had limited practice running, where they could spend time configuring the set up for race. Reduce that and it forces them to think on their feet a bit more.

Qualy is the only time we actually to get the chance to see the cars at their absolute best these days.
 

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Probably one of the worst ideas I’ve seen them float. The format is fine, they just need to figure out how to get the cars more competitive. They basically just want more total tv viewers over a weekend I’m assuming.
 

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F1's proposal for Saturday shake-up at three 2021 events would see qualifying moved to Friday, which would set grid for Saturday 'sprint' race; That race would then determine starting order for usual Sunday Grand Prix; Vote set for Thursday at F1 Commission Meeting

A new Formula 1 proposal for shorter Saturday 'sprint' races at certain rounds in 2021 is to be discussed this week as the sport considers a fresh twist on the current qualifying format.

F1 has been considering Saturday formats for some time and - after a reverse-grid qualifying race idea was turned down last year - has devised a new grid-setting plan which could be trialled this season.


Under the proposal for three chosen weekends, qualifying would take place a day earlier, replacing Practice Two on Friday, and that would set the grid for Saturday's sprint race.


As well as offering reduced championship points for the top eight finishers, the outcome of that shorter race would determine the starting grid for the usual Sunday Grand Prix.


The Canadian, Italian and Brazilian GPs - venues known for fast and exciting racing - have been targeted as the 2021 events where this format could be trialled, with a view to using it more widely next year.

Teams and bosses are to vote on the plan at Thursday's F1 Commission meeting, where further details will also be discussed.

For the plan to be passed, it needs a 'super majority' of 28 of the 30 votes. F1 and governing body the FIA get 10 votes each, while the 10 teams have one apiece.

Could be good, but a bad smash in the sprint race could be a disaster for the Sunday, but an interesting proposal.
My first thought was about people crashing in the sprint races. Surely it’ll just encourage people to take unnecessary risks. I’d definitely be interested to see what it’s like but I can’t see 28 out of 30 votes being in favour.
 

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An engine development 'freeze' in Formula 1 is set to be introduced from 2022 after it gained unanimous approval in a meeting of the F1 Commission.

In a move which is set to pave the way for Red Bull to take over the running of Honda's engines from next year when the Japanese manufacturer leaves the sport, engine development for all manufacturers will be stopped at the end of this year for the remainder of the sport's current engine era.
 

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The idea to trial three Saturday 'sprint' races was also discussed for the first time, with the idea receiving "broad agreement" among the teams. Further talks are now set take place to finesse the concept before the 2021 season before a final vote is taken.

"All teams recognised the major importance of engaging fans in new and innovative ways to ensure an even more exciting weekend format," read a joint FIA-F1 statement.

"There was, therefore, broad support from all parties for a new qualifying format at some races, and a working group has been tasked with creating a complete plan with the aim to reach a final decision before the start for the 2021 Championship."

In what would be a break with tradition, a shorter race on a Saturday would be held on a trial basis at three venues - believed to be Montreal, Monza and Brazil. Qualifying at these events would be moved to Friday with the result from this session to set the grid for the sprint race.

Reduced points would be on offer.

I wonder if they actual know what the fans want, on thing I have read, Facebook and F1 sites, most dont want it.
 

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The short race format could bring more unpredictable grids for the Sunday if nothing else. It would just take a couple of overtakes at the first corner or a wing or two to be taken off to mix up the positions for the main race. It's not the reason they're introducing it but that could be a bonus for more exciting main races.
 

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Qualifying should always be about raw pace. Close gaps in qualifying should be thought of as a bonus to the excitement.

The main thing is cars that can actually overtake without getting bogged down in dirty air.
 

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I don't like the idea of it at all, it goes against the very fabric of the sport. Don't see why they can't wait and see how 2022 rule changes pan out and pivot from there.
 

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The calendar is inflated and the races have become boring... so the obvious solution to improve things is to have more races :lol:
 

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I don't like the idea of it at all, it goes against the very fabric of the sport. Don't see why they can't wait and see how 2022 rule changes pan out and pivot from there.
I have a bad feeling they already know they’re not going to be the shakeup/leveller that they thought it would be, hence the constant format tinkering ideas...
 

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A bit off topic but just came across this on youtube:

Even just the intro makes me jealous of those who were around for this. 20 Teams, 2 V12's, 2 V10's and 3 V8's. It must have been magnificent.
(Technically I was around but being 1 I didn't know how to appreciate it)
 

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Alonso has been involved in a cycling accident, and rumoured to have multiple fractures. Might be announced in the next few days that he'll miss the first 2-3 races.
 

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A bit off topic but just came across this on youtube:

Even just the intro makes me jealous of those who were around for this. 20 Teams, 2 V12's, 2 V10's and 3 V8's. It must have been magnificent.
(Technically I was around but being 1 I didn't know how to appreciate it)
F1 was fantastic to watch then, so unpredictable.
 

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Alonso has been involved in a cycling accident, and rumoured to have multiple fractures. Might be announced in the next few days that he'll miss the first 2-3 races.
He's managed to escape with broken teeth according to reports, very lucky. If there's no other fractures then a good chance he'll make the first race.
 

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Antonio Giovinazzi got a sneak peak at Alfa Romeo's 2021 charger, and revealed that the Swiss outfit's car looks "beautiful" and will feature a "peculiar" nose design compared to its predecessor.

Alfa Romeo has retained both the 27-year-old Italian, who will be heading into his third full season of F1, and teammate Kimi Raikkonen.

In an interview with Sky Italia, Giovinazzi shared his first impressions of the Hinwil squad's 2021 contender.

"I saw the new Alfa Romeo, it is really beautiful," he said. "The livery is very nice, but the peculiarity will be in the front and we hope it can bring us something more in terms of tenths."
 

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As good a time as any to try the sprint races to get some data and true feeling on it before 2022.

Not keen on idea, though it's better than reverse grids.
 

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Just watching an old Top Gear episode with Lewis Hamilton, filmed just after he moved to Mercedes. Clarkson referred to the switch as like going from Manchester United to West Ham, due to the fact that Mercedes had won an F1 Grand Prix once in the previous 5 years.

Then he absolutely annihilated the competition the Star in a Reasonably Priced car segment.
 

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Meh, I would say it was more like joining Man City around when they were signing Robinho. It was no secret they working towards 2014 Engines. It was an educated gamble from Hamilton.
 

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Meh, I would say it was more like joining Man City around when they were signing Robinho. It was no secret they working towards 2014 Engines. It was an educated gamble from Hamilton.
The United bit was unfortunately accurate.
 

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Qualifying should always be about raw pace. Close gaps in qualifying should be thought of as a bonus to the excitement.

The main thing is cars that can actually overtake without getting bogged down in dirty air.
Yeh just fix the wake off the back of the cars. Allow for closer racing and more overtaking. No sprit race bullshit.
 

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Australian GP organisers have added a few changes to the layout of Melbourne's Albert Park street circuit in a bid to boost overtaking opportunities in specific areas of the track.

The lingering COVID-19 crisis and travel restrictions in Australia forced Aussie GP organizers to push back their event to the back half of the 2021 season.

But the postponement has provided an opportunity to bring forward a series of changes that were initially scheduled to be implemented at the venue in 2022.

Albert Park's pitlane has already undergone work, with the stretch being widened to two meters. But changes on the track's layout will begin next week and will involve a heavy revision of the Turn 9-10 complex.

The tight right hand Turn 9 corner is set to be completely erased and replaced by a fast sweep that will lead on to the slightly curved back straight.

Turn 13 will also undergo a camber change that should allow for better overtaking.

The 'Phase 2' geometric work is expected to be completed by July while 'Phase 3' will involve a compete resurfacing of the track. However, this will be conducted after next November's race and completed ahead of the 2022 Australian GP.
 

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The Principality of Monaco has authorized the ACM to begin next week the construction work of the circuit that is scheduled to host the fifth round of the 2021 F1 World Championship.

Formula 1's showcase event was canceled last year, for the first time since 1954, following the onslaught of the coronavirus pandemic, a fate that also befell the Automobile Club de Monaco's historic meeting.

Monaco's 2021 motorsport agenda is set to fill up the end of April and the month of May with Formula E, the Historic GP and F1 all taking place over four weeks in the Principality.

Construction work and the installation of all the necessary infrastructure were therefore brought ahead but build out deadlines required a green light this month, which the ACM has now received.


Work is expected to get underway next Monday on February 22, with the glitzy street circuit ready to host its Historic GP on April 23-25.

Monaco's E-Prix is to run on a shorter layout on May 8, while F1's big event will unfold from May 20 to 23.

Earlier this year, rumors of another cancellation for Monaco emerged as the Principality showed no signs of lifting its COVID-19 restrictions, which include a 7pm-6am curfew.

Monaco announced that its current measures will remain in place until March 19, but cases are steadily decreasing while French citizens entering the Principality are required to show a negative PCR test from the prior 72 hours.
 

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A super licence is much like a normal driver's licence in the sense that there is a penalty points system, and when the driver reaches 12 penalty points a suspension follows. Lewis Hamilton came close to a ban in 2020, but are any drivers at risk before the 2021 season even starts?

The way the system works mean the points remain in place for one year, the points awarded at any one time are deducted from the total after exactly one year and with quite a few being awarded in 2020, some drivers are starting the season with points already on their licence. Lewis Hamilton and George Russell currently lead the field with most points, so they will need to be careful in the first few races to ensure they are not as risk of a ban as the season progresses.

Lewis Hamilton – 6 penalty points

Austria – 2 (Not slowing down enough under yellow flag)
Austria – 2 (Causing collision)
Italy – 2 (Pitted during closed pit lane)

George Russell – 6 penalty points

Great Britain – 3 (Too little brake under yellow flag)
Turkey – 3 (the same reason as above)

Lando Norris – 5 penalty points

Styria – 2 (Overtaking under yellow flag)
Turkey – 3 (Not slowing down enough under yellow flag)

Kimi Räikkönen – 4 penalty points

Hungary – 1 (Car placed incorrectly on grid)
Tuscany – 1 (Wrongly entered the pit lane)
Eifel – 2 (Causing a collision)

Antonio Giovinazzi 3 penalty points

Great Britain – 1 (Incorrect behaviour behind safety car)
Italy – 2 (Pitted during closed pit lane)

Lance Stroll- 3 penalty points

Portugal – 2 (Causing collision)
Portugal – 1 (Ignoring track limits)

Charles Leclerc – 3 penalty points

Styria – 1 (Obstruction)
Sakhir – 2 (Causing collision)

Sergio Pérez – 2 penalty points

Spain – 1 (Blue flags ignored)
Tuscany – 1 (Causing collision)

Daniel Ricciardo – 1 penalty point

Russia – 1 (Ignoring instructions from race direction)

Esteban Ocon – 1 penalty point

Silverstone 70 – 1 (Obstruction)

Carlos Sainz – 1 penalty point

Turkey – 1 (Obstruction)

Some drivers however start 2021 with a clean slate, these are: Valtteri Bottas, Max Verstappen, Sebastian Vettel, Pierre Gasly and Nicholas Latifi. Anyone ‘new’ to the sport also starts the season on 0 penalty points so these are: Fernando Alonso, Mick Schumacher, Mick Schumacher’s teammate and Yuki Tsunoda.
 

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A super licence is much like a normal driver's licence in the sense that there is a penalty points system, and when the driver reaches 12 penalty points a suspension follows. Lewis Hamilton came close to a ban in 2020, but are any drivers at risk before the 2021 season even starts?

The way the system works mean the points remain in place for one year, the points awarded at any one time are deducted from the total after exactly one year and with quite a few being awarded in 2020, some drivers are starting the season with points already on their licence. Lewis Hamilton and George Russell currently lead the field with most points, so they will need to be careful in the first few races to ensure they are not as risk of a ban as the season progresses.

Lewis Hamilton – 6 penalty points

Austria – 2 (Not slowing down enough under yellow flag)
Austria – 2 (Causing collision)
Italy – 2 (Pitted during closed pit lane)

George Russell – 6 penalty points

Great Britain – 3 (Too little brake under yellow flag)
Turkey – 3 (the same reason as above)

Lando Norris – 5 penalty points

Styria – 2 (Overtaking under yellow flag)
Turkey – 3 (Not slowing down enough under yellow flag)

Kimi Räikkönen – 4 penalty points

Hungary – 1 (Car placed incorrectly on grid)
Tuscany – 1 (Wrongly entered the pit lane)
Eifel – 2 (Causing a collision)

Antonio Giovinazzi 3 penalty points

Great Britain – 1 (Incorrect behaviour behind safety car)
Italy – 2 (Pitted during closed pit lane)

Lance Stroll- 3 penalty points

Portugal – 2 (Causing collision)
Portugal – 1 (Ignoring track limits)

Charles Leclerc – 3 penalty points

Styria – 1 (Obstruction)
Sakhir – 2 (Causing collision)

Sergio Pérez – 2 penalty points

Spain – 1 (Blue flags ignored)
Tuscany – 1 (Causing collision)

Daniel Ricciardo – 1 penalty point

Russia – 1 (Ignoring instructions from race direction)

Esteban Ocon – 1 penalty point

Silverstone 70 – 1 (Obstruction)

Carlos Sainz – 1 penalty point

Turkey – 1 (Obstruction)

Some drivers however start 2021 with a clean slate, these are: Valtteri Bottas, Max Verstappen, Sebastian Vettel, Pierre Gasly and Nicholas Latifi. Anyone ‘new’ to the sport also starts the season on 0 penalty points so these are: Fernando Alonso, Mick Schumacher, Mick Schumacher’s teammate and Yuki Tsunoda.
I don't think Mick Schumacker's teammate holds a Super License yet.
 

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I don't think Mick Schumacker's teammate holds a Super License yet.
I dont think it will be a problem.

Previously, super-licences would only be granted to those drivers who accumulated 40 points under a weighted system based on their achievements in junior categories.

But after the FIA revealed earlier this year that the system would be reviewed due to the disruption caused by the global health pandemic, which reduced a number of 2020 campaigns, they have now issued a number of tweaks, outlined in their International Sporting Code.

Rather than the full 40 points, drivers can now be granted a super-licence if they have scored 30 points from the various championships and are “judged at the sole determination of the FIA as unable to qualify” normally “due to circumstances outside their control or reasons of force majeure”.

Any super-licence requests by drivers attempting to meet this criteria will require approval from the FIA’s World Motor Sport Council.

A driver can score 30 points by finishing fourth or higher in Formula 2, or by winning the Formula 3 championship.

The FIA also confirmed they will account for the disrupted 2020 calendar by allowing drivers to discount the year and gain points across a four-year period, if required.