50/50 for me RB did not want to start on softs, dont care what Horner says.
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Missed the start though, how was RB forced to go in with the softs?
One lap pace is very different to race pace with 100kg of fuel on board.
Max destroyed the only mediums they had left.
Don't agree, very 50/50 for me. Strategy needs to be bang on.
Exciting though huh!!!
The Red Bull has been a great car over one lap, the Merc generally has been great in race trim.
Its perfectly balanced, a clean lap one and this will be great.
Its perfectly balanced, a clean lap one and this will be great.
It was neck and neck on the mediums before Max flatspotted, with RBs comfortably quicker on softs.
If it's going to come down to strategy, Red Bull must have the edge too, given Merc's propensity to feck things up.
Get in there... Maxxx. Now he can drove off while Perez crash in the back of Hamilton.
He had improved through sector 2 on that last lap he aborted, right?
Not a disaster for Hamilton imo. Strategy is going to be very important tomorrow. If Hamilton was on pole he would've struggled to keep Verstappen off him on that first corner anyway.
Personalities and dislikes aside, Max and Lewis do make the sport interesting.
Obviously, they are quicker tyres.
RB will not want to go for a two stopper as that would mean they have to get 23ish seconds from somewhere. Pole usually wins but the pole sitter doesn't usually start on different tyres than the rest.
The soft's will start to go and the advantage will go to Merc. Can they take advantage though, that's the question.
When they were both on sofas in Q3.
Pole always wins here, but they've tweaked the track so who knows.
All about strategy tomorrow - Mercedes just didn’t get the tyres in the window. They’ll have strong race pace tomorrow.
I struggle to see a 1 stop race now with the softs
The tow played a massive part
But the strat isn't like to will be tomorrow. RB could be looking at a two-stop. It'll be hard for them to get that extra 23ish seconds back
I agree. RB could still do it but that second stop could become a problem
Yeah thanks? Im obviously aware of that. Nonetheless all through practice the RB race pass was actually better than their qualifying relatively to Merc, so yeah, my statement still stands.
Think similar. It wasn’t really the tow that made the lap, as Karun’s side by side showed. It was the stability and grip in sector 3.
I don't think the mediums are a big advantage in the race, because the only tyre related comments i recall have been about temperature, right?
I can't remember anyone over the weekend complaining about graining or anything like that, or am I wrong here?
I can't remember anyone over the weekend complaining about graining or anything like that, or am I wrong here?
This should make for an interesting finale. P1 on softs vs P2 on mediums. Strategy will play a huge part during the race. Looking forward to it.
58 laps... how many laps will a hard stretch to before its buggered?
I really wish I’d put some money on Max when he was 2/1 to win the WC after last weeks race. Neck and neck with the bookies now
You have 570 some posts and almost all of them are you throwing your toys out the pram about Max in some way or other. Are you sure you wouldn't be happier in the Xbox vs PS thread?
I guess you have to give the props for knowing their audience.You have 570 some posts and almost all of them are you throwing your toys out the pram about Max in some way or other. Are you sure you wouldn't be happier in the Xbox vs PS thread?
The lack of self awareness is incredible! I reckon you might actually fail a Turing test!
It's accurate. He really is being a whiny, arrogant dickhead in that interview.
Maybe you should make a Max vs Lewis fanboy thread for next season and you two can keep all of your ranting in there. Keep the F1 thread for F1 fans.
The lack of self awareness is incredible! I reckon you might actually fail a Turing test!
The irony is brilliant.You have 570 some posts and almost all of them are you throwing your toys out the pram about Max in some way or other. Are you sure you wouldn't be happier in the Xbox vs PS thread?
I think a little reflection on your own posting would serve you better than counting mine.
Can we just stop with the nonsense already? It’s quite clear that none of you will ever find ground to agree on, life would be so much easier and better if you all just ignored each other.
Looking at race pace sim in FP2, I think Max could quite comfortably run away with this. The only hope for Merc is that the drop in pace in sector 3 was due to getting the tyres in the right window vs raw grip between the two. If it’s the former, then on race day it shouldn’t have the same impact.
One surprising thing is the straight line speed of RB. They’ve run a small wing. Which on softs which have more grip, might be manageable. Merc have to hope that on the harder compounds, they have a big speed advantage where the lack of tyre grip is amplified by the lower downforce set up which RB are running to have pace on the straights.
It’s definitely looking in RBs favour, but never know.
One surprising thing is the straight line speed of RB. They’ve run a small wing. Which on softs which have more grip, might be manageable. Merc have to hope that on the harder compounds, they have a big speed advantage where the lack of tyre grip is amplified by the lower downforce set up which RB are running to have pace on the straights.
It’s definitely looking in RBs favour, but never know.
Looks like 2 stops for Max and 1 stop for Lewis then?
It does look like this is Max's to lose, Red Bull are much craftier as a team and they seem to have the speed advantage here too.
The only question is about whether the softs can hold up, Lewis needs to hope that they can't.
Yeah, throughout the year Red Bull have simply been more astute in terms of strategy and tactics. Don’t think the tow made a big difference today, but throughout the season it’s usually felt like Merc are strategically off the pace.
The split strategy does make it interesting. If Max stays ahead of Lewis at the start, he could pull away on that softer tyre early doors. The challenge for RB is that they almost need to commit to a direction right at the start. Either Max pushes and they commit to a 2 stop, in which case he can build the gap. Or they go for trying for a 1 stop and in that case he might not pull away to preserve the tyres. There is a fair bit of risk in both cases though.
Lewis will have to be wary of those on the softs behind him getting a jump. I just checked, it's virtually everyone except Bottas?
If he can stay behind Max he'll have a great chance.
If he can stay behind Max he'll have a great chance.
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The Dutch media hype, nay, indoctrination to make us love Max is reaching insane levels. I'm bombarded from all sides by it at work, in traffic, in the fecking supermarkt, everywhere. Most of my friends have fallen for it and bought Zandvoort tickets for nearly 700 euro's a piece. It's madness.
Before today (and the past 3 races) my head says Merc will win.
Anything can happen this season and I would still love Merc to lose for Max & Honda to get a win after Merc’s ridiculous dominance.
It has turned sour though, I’d love for them both to ram into each other and both get disqualified from the championship.
I’m already looking forward to next year with the new regs and a few other drivers involved.
Anything can happen this season and I would still love Merc to lose for Max & Honda to get a win after Merc’s ridiculous dominance.
It has turned sour though, I’d love for them both to ram into each other and both get disqualified from the championship.
I’m already looking forward to next year with the new regs and a few other drivers involved.
Aye, it's insane. I've even spoken to some old posh lady friends of my mother, the type who are married to a former professor or doctor and normally only care about art and classical music concerts, who've been completely riled up and excited about this F1 season.I guess that's what you get when your national football team sucks big time for almost a decade, and the only other 'sport' you're good at as a nation is schaatsen. Luckily everything closes at 17:00 hr because of lockdown and it's freezing cold outside, because Max might not win it tomorrow, and in a normal world I could definitely see all these 50 year old bald guys with beer bellies wearing Red Bull shirts as casual clothing going ballistic if he'd lose.