FA Cup 4th and 5th Round Draw | United vs Liverpool (West Ham/Doncaster at home in 5th round)

[dal]

Fulham, Sheffield United, Burnley either side of the Liverpool games for us.

Burnley and Spurs for them.

I’d take going out of the fa cup to beat them in the league because we could be 8-9 points ahead of them if we do well. Big big big if.

I back us too keep going if we open up a gap, I don’t think we will rest on our laurels.

 

[2 man midfield]

Liverpool and City in the cups, PSG and Leipzig in Europe

And some think we bribe the authorities...

 

[RobinLFC]

Don’t know about conspiracy, and yeah we put out second and third sides in the cups but Jesus do we always seem to have bad luck in these domestic cup draws. With a full strength squad we could probably put out a decent side. But unfortunately this has come far too early. Looks like we’ll be going out again.

Consecutive league titles are infinitely more valuable than the FA Cup at this stage. We win, good, we lose, also good in a way. Just sucks that it’ll be against United.

 

[SER19]

City fans will still find something to moan about their draws.

Not engaging in any conspiracy talk, but their draws are crazy. Years of it now apart from one tough CL run recently

 

[Real Name]

Klopp will probably field youngsters, as long as we beat them in the league I dont care about FA cup.

 

[Red00012]

Happy now ?

@el3mel

 

[anant]

. I think since ole took over we have been drawn with (latest team first)

United under ole with #FACup opponents:

Liverpool
Watford
Chelsea (L)
Norwich
Derby
Tranmere
Wolves
Wolves (L)
Chelsea
Arsenal
Reading

And if we get through possibly and probably west Ham

IIRC, the Reading draw happened when Mou was our manager.

Leave the Tranmere game aside, and our draw luck has been horrible

 

[DickDastardly]

No fans for Liverpool vs United at Anfield with both clubs going for the title, and no fans for United vs Liverpool at Old Trafford in the FA Cup 4th round. Won't be the same.

Yep, that's the only downside of this.

Should really be two good games.

One a top spot battle, the other a knockout match.

 

[MonkeysMagic]

People that say 'you've got to beat the top teams to win it anyway' clearly don't understand statistics. If a team makes its way through the comp playing lower league opposition, whilst their main rivals eliminate each other, significantly increases the teams chances of not only progressing but also winning...I point you to the Chel/City FA record over last 10 years!

 

[united_99]

A shame City can’t draw league 2 sides in the CL. Very unlucky to draw the likes of Marseille and Lyon instead.

Anyway win - win now. Go out and concentrate on the league or win by knocking Liverpool out.

 

[Dve]

Liverpool will be the team least happy with that draw, with all the injuries they have and a missed opportunity to rest players. City though, will walk around smiling rest of the week.

 

[fergosaurus]

Liverpool and City in the cups, PSG and Leipzig in Europe

And some think we bribe the authorities...

One of the strongest Europa League teams as well. Luck hasn't been on our side.

 

[Siorac]

Yep, that's the only downside of this.

Should really be two good games.

One a top spot battle, the other a knockout match.

United v Liverpool is almost always an awful game. Low-scoring, scrappy games of attrition. And God help us if they're not - that would be bad news for us at this stage.

 

[anant]

City have reached 4 semis and have won the FA cup twice since Pep took over. Look at those draws now, apart from Arsenal twice (both games City lost btw), City haven't even faced a top 10 PL side in the FA Cup (WHU, Palace and Newcastle aren't teams that usually finish in top half, and are mostly in lower mid-table)

 

[dwd]

Liverpool will be the team least happy with that draw, with all the injuries they have and a missed opportunity to rest players. City though, will walk around smiling rest of the week.

They’ve only got two injured haven’t they?

 

[Offside]

Liverpool and City in the cups, PSG and Leipzig in Europe

And some think we bribe the authorities...

98/99 we had Bayern and Barca in the same group and Inter and Juve in the knockouts. Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal before the FA Cup final. Won the lot. If you’re good enough...

 

[United Hobbit]

. I think since ole took over we have been drawn with (latest team first)

United under ole with #FACup opponents:

Liverpool
Watford
Chelsea (L)
Norwich
Derby
Tranmere
Wolves
Wolves (L)
Chelsea
Arsenal
Reading

And if we get through possibly and probably west Ham

Bar that little run in the middle we've had some seriously tough ties

Glad not to see Wolves yet again (yet!!)

 

[Ramshock]

sigh not these cnuts again

 

[VeevaVee]

Klopp will probably field youngsters, as long as we beat them in the league I dont care about FA cup.

Klopp field youngsters? I’ll believe it when I see it

 

[united_99]

98/99 we had Bayern and Barca in the same group and Inter and Juve in the knockouts. Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal before the FA Cup final. Won the lot. If you’re good enough...

Well yeah, that was insane. But that team was the most successful side in our history. Usually no one survives that kind of draw, let alone our current side.

 

[el_loco_bielsa]

@RobinLFC will be here any moment telling us how drawing Liverpool is more favourable than drawing Cheltenham or Luton and how the caf is overreacting as always

And he won’t be wrong. I don’t think this is an unfavourable draw for you at all.

Klopp couldn’t care less about the FA cup - it’s an irrelevance to him, a nuisance in most usual seasons which gets in the way of what he perceives to be the two trophies worth focusing on.

This season it goes beyond being a nuisance and becomes an active hindrance considering he will be playing with two midfielders in central defence all season and has his work cut out keeping players fit.

I fully expect him to put out the first team and expend every sinew to get a win in the league, and throw the FA cup tie by playing a youth/reserves mix like he’s done every year he’s been here.

I’d be staggered if more than two of salah, mane, firmino, TAA, Robertson, Thiago, Henderson, Fabinho start the game. They’ll all be either on the bench or in the stands.

 

[Andycoleno9]

City's luck in draws is ridiculous. Just ridiculous. Even when it is double draw like today, they manage to get two non PL clubs

 

[Green_Red]

Consecutive league titles are infinitely more valuable than the FA Cup at this stage. We win, good, we lose, also good in a way. Just sucks that it’ll be against United.

Getting the excuses in nice and early...

 

[United Hobbit]

See I think Klopp will go full strength because its United. If it was most other teams he'd play the kids, but I can't see him wanting to lose to us, especially if we take points off them in the league

I'd like to think Ole will be able to fire us up for this, given he understands what United vs Liverpool means to the fans

When do they decide kick off times etc?

 

[2 man midfield]

98/99 we had Bayern and Barca in the same group and Inter and Juve in the knockouts. Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal before the FA Cup final. Won the lot. If you’re good enough...

Yeah but it’s just added fatigue isn’t it. It’s highly likely you’ll face a top side at some point, but would you rather be up against City in the final after playing Liverpool, Chelsea, Spurs and Leicester, or have their route of several lower league teams before getting Fulham in the semis? You’ve both only gone as far as each other after all.

Conversely, if you’re not gonna win it then maybe it’s best just going out early. No point beating lower league fodder if you’re just going to lose in the final I guess.

 

[GledTheRed]

Man City

 

[RobinLFC]

Getting the excuses in nice and early...

If you wanna call it excuses, does that also count for the people saying it’s a win-win in here?

It is what it is. A defeat would suck but there’s definitely a silver lining to it.

 

[Sylar]

2016/17	3rd Round	West Ham 0-5 Man City
2016/17	4th Round	Crystal Palace 0-3 Man City
2016/17	5th Round	Huddersfield 0-0 Man City
2016/17	5th Round (R)	Man City 5-1 Huddersfield
2016/17	6th Round	Middlesbrough 0-2 Man City
2016/17	Semi-Final	Arsenal 2-1 Man City (aet)
2017/18	3rd Round	Man City 4-1 Burnley
2017/18	4th Round	Cardiff 0-2 Man City
2017/18	5th Round	Wigan 1-0 Man City
2018/19	3rd Round	Man City 7-0 Rotherham
2018/19	4th Round	Man City 5-0 Burnley
2018/19	5th Round	Newport 1-4 Man City
2018/19	6th Round	Swansea 2-3 Man City
2018/19	Semi-Final	Man City 1-0 Brighton
2018/19	Final	Man City 6-0 Watford
2019/20	3rd Round	Man City 4-1 Port Vale
2019/20	4th Round	Man City 4-0 Fulham
2019/20	5th Round	Sheffield Wednesday 0-1 Man City

Since then
Newcastle
Arsenal
Birmingham
Cheltenham
Swansea/forest

That run when they won it in 18/19

 

[Rooney in Paris]

And he won’t be wrong. I don’t think this is an unfavourable draw for you at all.

Klopp couldn’t care less about the FA cup - it’s an irrelevance to him, a nuisance in most usual seasons which gets in the way of what he perceives to be the two trophies worth focusing on.

This season it goes beyond being a nuisance and becomes an active hindrance considering he will be playing with two midfielders in central defence all season and has his work cut out keeping players fit.

I fully expect him to put out the first team and expend every sinew to get a win in the league, and throw the FA cup tie by playing a youth/reserves mix like he’s done every year he’s been here.

I’d be staggered if more than two of salah, mane, firmino, TAA, Robertson, Thiago, Henderson, Fabinho start the game. They’ll all be either on the bench or in the stands.

You mean like against the Villa kids?

 

[Red & White]

I remember us getting PL teams in the FA Cup for what seemed like every round for years bar a few games. I’m quite happy with this draw as Klopp has little interest in the domestic cups so it would be nice to knock them out. I see Spurs have had some luck with cup draws this season, are all the stars aligning for Mourinho to get his usual trophy in his second season? I don’t even waste my breath with City‘s draws these days. Death and taxes when they get drawn out of a hat.

 

[el_loco_bielsa]

You mean like against the Villa kids?

No, I meant like the weakened sides he played in the third/fourth round exits against West Ham, wolves (twice) and West Brom in 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019 and is likely to do in the fourth round against Manchester United in 2021.

Like I helpfully explained in the post you quoted. I could draw you a picture if you like?

 

[Green_Red]

If you wanna call it excuses, does that also count for the people saying it’s a win-win in here?

It is what it is. A defeat would suck but there’s definitely a silver lining to it.

No I'm only taking the piss. Hopefully both of us will see it as a rubber duck game in terms of focusing on league position instead but I think we will need to take it more seriously than yous though because it might be one of our last chances at silverware this season.

 

[Murder on Zidane's Floor]

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Probably been posted but such an obvious fix.

 

[Dve]

They’ve only got two injured haven’t they?

Not after we´ve played them this weekend... hehe

Yeah, ok, I haven´t really paid attention to their recoveries, so maybe you´re right.

 

[Rooney in Paris]

No, I meant like the weakened sides he played in the third/fourth round exits against West Ham, wolves (twice) and West Brom in 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019 and is likely to do in the fourth round against Manchester United in 2021.

Like I helpfully explained in the post you quoted. I could draw you a picture if you like?

you're a weird little person

 

[KomodoBadger]

Liverpool and City in the cups, PSG and Leipzig in Europe

And some think we bribe the authorities...

Yep. Anyone who thinks that the authorities favour us is wilfully ignorant

 

[croadyman]

See I think Klopp will go full strength because its United. If it was most other teams he'd play the kids, but I can't see him wanting to lose to us, especially if we take points off them in the league

I'd like to think Ole will be able to fire us up for this, given he understands what United vs Liverpool means to the fans

When do they decide kick off times etc?

Yeah I see him going full strength as it's against us

 

[foolsgold]

If you want to win things you need to beat big clubs

 

[Sean_RedDevil]

The national cup wins for Chelsea and Manchester City are really nothing special considering their draws.

 

[SqualorVictoria]

2016/17	3rd Round	West Ham 0-5 Man City
2016/17	4th Round	Crystal Palace 0-3 Man City
2016/17	5th Round	Huddersfield 0-0 Man City
2016/17	5th Round (R)	Man City 5-1 Huddersfield
2016/17	6th Round	Middlesbrough 0-2 Man City
2016/17	Semi-Final	Arsenal 2-1 Man City (aet)
2017/18	3rd Round	Man City 4-1 Burnley
2017/18	4th Round	Cardiff 0-2 Man City
2017/18	5th Round	Wigan 1-0 Man City
2018/19	3rd Round	Man City 7-0 Rotherham
2018/19	4th Round	Man City 5-0 Burnley
2018/19	5th Round	Newport 1-4 Man City
2018/19	6th Round	Swansea 2-3 Man City
2018/19	Semi-Final	Man City 1-0 Brighton
2018/19	Final	Man City 6-0 Watford
2019/20	3rd Round	Man City 4-1 Port Vale
2019/20	4th Round	Man City 4-0 Fulham
2019/20	5th Round	Sheffield Wednesday 0-1 Man City

Since then
Newcastle
Arsenal
Birmingham
Cheltenham
Swansea/forest

That run when they won it in 18/19

3 PL sides, 2 Championship and 1 beyond that. 2 at home, 2 away. Seems pretty standard to me. I'm not entirely sure if it's City's fault that no actual big side made it to the semis and finals so they could draw City.