Yeah, I had to google a bunch of papers to understand his point.You're literally explaining why data bias makes these algorithms unfair
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
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Sacha Baron Cohen Tears Into Facebook, Mark Zuckerberg In Scathing 24-Minute Speech
“It’s like we’re living in the Roman Empire, and Mark Zuckerberg is Caesar. At least that would explain his haircut.”
Cohen called FB, Twitter, Youtube and Google the greatest propaganda machine in history.
“It’s like we’re living in the Roman Empire, and Mark Zuckerberg is Caesar. At least that would explain his haircut.”
Cohen called FB, Twitter, Youtube and Google the greatest propaganda machine in history.
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Look I’m no fan of Zuckerbeeg, but not sure what’s wrong with what he’s said there? FB isn’t an accredited media org and would rather not be in the business of vetting shit. Can’t say I blame them.
Therein lies the problem. They aren't a media organization but are still one of the primary ways people get information. What then is to stop states or rogue entities from using them to amplify lies and propaganda to subvert elections or to generally foment chaos within a particular society ? Oh and they are also a monopoly and Zuckerberg is unapologetically profiting off of misinformation.Look I’m no fan of Zuckerbeeg, but not sure what’s wrong with what he’s said there? FB isn’t an accredited media org and would rather not be in the business of vetting shit. Can’t say I blame them.
There has to be some form of oversight that prevents misinformation that runs counter to the greater public interest.
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I suppose nothing. But then I’d take anything written on FB with a grain of salt and would expect any other reasonable person to do the same. I do understand your concern however. There’s a lot of idiots out there.Therein lies the problem. They aren't a media organization but are still one of the primary ways people get information. What's to stop anyone from using them to amplify lies and propaganda to subvert elections or to generally foment chaos within a particular society ?
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Her book came out a year ago but doesn't seem to have been posted.
Sometimes you'll come across a promotional tour podcast/interview that is just as comprehensive as the book; this is not one of those cases. Book goes into a lot of deeper, more interesting detail.
Sometimes you'll come across a promotional tour podcast/interview that is just as comprehensive as the book; this is not one of those cases. Book goes into a lot of deeper, more interesting detail.
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I went to one of her talks earlier this year and found it a little bland given the subject matter. That combined with the size of the book put me off for a while! Will give it a go in the new year then...Her book came out a year ago but doesn't seem to have been posted.
Sometimes you'll come across a promotional tour podcast/interview that is just as comprehensive as the book; this is not one of those cases. Book goes into a lot of deeper, more interesting detail.
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Google/Facebook probably released a gas sedative into the ventilation system.I went to one of her talks earlier this year and found it a little bland given the subject matter....
A whopping thirty-five percent of it is appendices....That combined with the size of the book put me off for a while! Will give it a go in the new year then...
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Should we also go for an one party system where all the leaders are uneducated peasants, oh grand leader?
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I mean they have healthcare in Cuba.Yep, I cannot see anything going wrong with that. After all, communism worked well everywhere.
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Should we also go for an one party system where all the leaders are uneducated peasants, oh grand leader?
When someone says Cuba, I think prosperity.I mean they have healthcare in Cuba.
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I would take universal healthcare over the right to buy countless flavours of bottled water. But maybe I just hate freedom.When someone says Cuba, I think prosperity.
Its just weird trying to ''own'' an american poster by saying communism didn't work when the US doesn't provide people with healthcare. Also your German, ''communism''(It was more state capitalism but whatever)stopped you lot from well...................killing everything in sight and then afterwards half of you lot got pumped full of american cash.
Just because Cuba offers better healthcare to their citizens , it doesn’t justify the state control over their citizens.I would choose “freedom” over healthcare every time.I would take universal healthcare over the right to buy countless flavours of bottled water. But maybe I just hate freedom.
Its just weird trying to ''own'' an american poster by saying communism didn't work when the US doesn't provide people with healthcare. Also your German, ''communism''(It was more state capitalism but whatever)stopped you lot from well...................killing everything in sight and then afterwards half of you lot got pumped full of american cash.
Yeah, Cuba is awesome and US is shit. That is why so many people from all over the world go to live in Cuba, and why so many Americans try to leave their country. Right comrade?I would take universal healthcare over the right to buy countless flavours of bottled water. But maybe I just hate freedom.
Its just weird trying to ''own'' an american poster by saying communism didn't work when the US doesn't provide people with healthcare. Also your German, ''communism''(It was more state capitalism but whatever)stopped you lot from well...................killing everything in sight and then afterwards half of you lot got pumped full of american cash.
About the second point, I am not even German, so I’ll just ignore whatever you were trying to say, but I guess not much.
Cuba doesn’t offer better anything than US. They don’t even have drinkable water.Just because Cuba offers better healthcare to their citizens , it doesn’t justify the state control over their citizens.I would choose “freedom” over healthcare every time.
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I never said it did. Just pointing out that the failure of communism has given the people of Cuban universal healthcare, where as the ''success'' of capitalism in the US hasn't.Just because Cuba offers better healthcare to their citizens , it doesn’t justify the state control over their citizens.
Again trying to ''own'' someone who is pointing out the awfulness of Amazon by saying - communism didn't work, is a bit stupid.
China has a billion people, does that mean Communism has won ? Holy shit I didn't know it was this easy.Yeah, Cuba is awesome and US is shit. That is why so many people from all over the world go to live in Cuba, and why so many Americans try to leave their country. Right comrade?
Cuba infant mortality rate is lower than the US.Cuba doesn’t offer better anything than US.
All I've done is point out Cuba has universal healthcare and you've lost it.
My condolences go out to the people of Germany.About the second point, I am not even German, so I’ll just ignore whatever you were trying to say, but I guess not much.
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Shutting it down is absurd, but a fine of just 40m is a joke too.Tweet
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I’ve done a fair bit of research on Facebook and co and the likes of Cambridge Analytica, Aggregate IQ ect for an ethics module at Uni and when I have a bit more time I’ll put some of it into digestible posts on here but my main take away from it was that all the tech companies are absolutely fine with breaking the law and committing unethical behaviour because the profits and benefits will always dwarf the punishments.Shutting it down is absurd, but a fine of just 40m is a joke too.
Facebook are going to be doing what CA and AIQ did for Trump in 2016 for all republicans but it’s kept in house this time and imbedded deeply in their black box algorithms. It’s a zero sum game for them because they can make sure their man wins and when he does they are completely shielded from the consequences of their actions.
Facebook will do adds for anyone (heck, isn’t Bloomberg the one who is doing most of the adds, which are anti-Trump), and I don’t think that they care too much who gets elected as long as it isn’t Warren.I’ve done a fair bit of research on Facebook and co and the likes of Cambridge Analytica, Aggregate IQ ect for an ethics module at Uni and when I have a bit more time I’ll put some of it into digestible posts on here but my main take away from it was that all the tech companies are absolutely fine with breaking the law and committing unethical behaviour because the profits and benefits will always dwarf the punishments.
Facebook are going to be doing what CA and AIQ did for Trump in 2016 for all republicans but it’s kept in house this time and imbedded deeply in their black box algorithms. It’s a zero sum game for them because they can make sure their man wins and when he does they are completely shielded from the consequences of their actions.
Zuck is not a Republican, his donations have been close to 50-50, and just 18 months ago Republicans were losing their shit how Facebook is discriminatory against them and it is helping Dems (in the senate hearing, the critics were mostly Republicans lead by Cruz). The vast majority of Facebook employees are very liberal.
I agree though that the small punishments allow the big tech companies to do what they want and just pay the fines. The solution is probably increasing the fines. Breaking them is ludicrous in my opinion (though I admit that I am biased in this).
Trump recently had a private meeting with Zuck and they now have a team of consultants made up of prominent Republican members. They are definitely backing Republicans in this election and it’s going to be payment in kind. They will remain deregulated and that is far more valuable to them than ad payments of a few million.Facebook will do adds for anyone (heck, isn’t Bloomberg the one who is doing most of the adds, which are anti-Trump), and I don’t think that they care too much who gets elected as long as it isn’t Warren.
Zuck is not a Republican, his donations have been close to 50-50, and just 18 months ago Republicans were losing their shit how Facebook is discriminatory against them and it is helping Dems (in the senate hearing, the critics were mostly Republicans lead by Cruz). The vast majority of Facebook employees are very liberal.
I agree though that the small punishments allow the big tech companies to do what they want and just pay the fines. The solution is probably increasing the fines. Breaking them is ludicrous in my opinion (though I admit that I am biased in this).
Big companies meet everyone, donate to everyone and support everyone. Would be idiotic for them to not collaborate with Republicans.Trump recently had a private meeting with Zuck and they now have a team of consultants made up of prominent Republican members. They are definitely backing Republicans in this election and it’s going to be payment in kind. They will remain deregulated and that is far more valuable to them than ad payments of a few million.
I think they won’t care who wins unless it is Warren, with whom they will need to fight in the courts.
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Facebook's future growth is with the right. One of their big growth markets is India, a very right-wing country, and where the ruling party has a well-funded and sophisticated online propaganda network on both facebook and facebook-owned whatsapp. In India, fb is used by young people in good numbers, and young Indians are more right-wing than their parents. In the west, their age profile is shifting upwards and there doesn't seem to be anything they can do to change that. As we know, the older generation in the west is far more conservative.Facebook will do adds for anyone (heck, isn’t Bloomberg the one who is doing most of the adds, which are anti-Trump), and I don’t think that they care too much who gets elected as long as it isn’t Warren.
Zuck is not a Republican, his donations have been close to 50-50, and just 18 months ago Republicans were losing their shit how Facebook is discriminatory against them and it is helping Dems (in the senate hearing, the critics were mostly Republicans lead by Cruz). The vast majority of Facebook employees are very liberal.
I agree though that the small punishments allow the big tech companies to do what they want and just pay the fines. The solution is probably increasing the fines. Breaking them is ludicrous in my opinion (though I admit that I am biased in this).
In line with that, we have seen facebook respond to public criticism relating to CA by appointing Bush officials to its fact-checking and integrity board, who have then cleared Breitbart as a legitimate news source alongside liberal favourites like NYT, etc. Zuck also has a big photo-op with Modi.
If they play up Zuckerburg's supposed liberal bona-fides, they are risking their own market and base. The only reason to do so is the very small possibiility that a Dem House, a Dem senate, and either Warren or Bernie as president might actually do something about it. But honestly that is not a likely event.
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Why are you biased?Facebook will do adds for anyone (heck, isn’t Bloomberg the one who is doing most of the adds, which are anti-Trump), and I don’t think that they care too much who gets elected as long as it isn’t Warren.
Zuck is not a Republican, his donations have been close to 50-50, and just 18 months ago Republicans were losing their shit how Facebook is discriminatory against them and it is helping Dems (in the senate hearing, the critics were mostly Republicans lead by Cruz). The vast majority of Facebook employees are very liberal.
I agree though that the small punishments allow the big tech companies to do what they want and just pay the fines. The solution is probably increasing the fines. Breaking them is ludicrous in my opinion (though I admit that I am biased in this).
Shutting it down is absurd, but a fine of just 40m is a joke too.
I’ve done a fair bit of research on Facebook and co and the likes of Cambridge Analytica, Aggregate IQ ect for an ethics module at Uni and when I have a bit more time I’ll put some of it into digestible posts on here but my main take away from it was that all the tech companies are absolutely fine with breaking the law and committing unethical behaviour because the profits and benefits will always dwarf the punishments.
Facebook are going to be doing what CA and AIQ did for Trump in 2016 for all republicans but it’s kept in house this time and imbedded deeply in their black box algorithms. It’s a zero sum game for them because they can make sure their man wins and when he does they are completely shielded from the consequences of their actions.
Facebook will do adds for anyone (heck, isn’t Bloomberg the one who is doing most of the adds, which are anti-Trump), and I don’t think that they care too much who gets elected as long as it isn’t Warren.
Zuck is not a Republican, his donations have been close to 50-50, and just 18 months ago Republicans were losing their shit how Facebook is discriminatory against them and it is helping Dems (in the senate hearing, the critics were mostly Republicans lead by Cruz). The vast majority of Facebook employees are very liberal.
I agree though that the small punishments allow the big tech companies to do what they want and just pay the fines. The solution is probably increasing the fines. Breaking them is ludicrous in my opinion (though I admit that I am biased in this).
Trump recently had a private meeting with Zuck and they now have a team of consultants made up of prominent Republican members. They are definitely backing Republicans in this election and it’s going to be payment in kind. They will remain deregulated and that is far more valuable to them than ad payments of a few million.
Big companies meet everyone, donate to everyone and support everyone. Would be idiotic for them to not collaborate with Republicans.
I think they won’t care who wins unless it is Warren, with whom they will need to fight in the courts.
Relevant to this discussion, although I really don’t like Kaiser framing herself as the innocent voice of reason in all this.Facebook's future growth is with the right. One of their big growth markets is India, a very right-wing country, and where the ruling party has a well-funded and sophisticated online propaganda network on both facebook and facebook-owned whatsapp. In India, fb is used by young people in good numbers, and young Indians are more right-wing than their parents. In the west, their age profile is shifting upwards and there doesn't seem to be anything they can do to change that. As we know, the older generation in the west is far more conservative.
In line with that, we have seen facebook respond to public criticism relating to CA by appointing Bush officials to its fact-checking and integrity board, who have then cleared Breitbart as a legitimate news source alongside liberal favourites like NYT, etc. Zuck also has a big photo-op with Modi.
If they play up Zuckerburg's supposed liberal bona-fides, they are risking their own market and base. The only reason to do so is the very small possibiility that a Dem House, a Dem senate, and either Warren or Bernie as president might actually do something about it. But honestly that is not a likely event.
https://www.independent.co.uk/voice...ook-fake-news-brexit-vote-leave-a9304421.html
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I really dislike her and the way she’s trying to become the face of the the people. She just switched sides at the opportune moment.Relevant to this discussion, although I really don’t like Kaiser framing herself as the innocent voice of reason in all this.
https://www.independent.co.uk/voice...ook-fake-news-brexit-vote-leave-a9304421.html
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Why do you consider it ludicrous?Facebook will do adds for anyone (heck, isn’t Bloomberg the one who is doing most of the adds, which are anti-Trump), and I don’t think that they care too much who gets elected as long as it isn’t Warren.
Zuck is not a Republican, his donations have been close to 50-50, and just 18 months ago Republicans were losing their shit how Facebook is discriminatory against them and it is helping Dems (in the senate hearing, the critics were mostly Republicans lead by Cruz). The vast majority of Facebook employees are very liberal.
I agree though that the small punishments allow the big tech companies to do what they want and just pay the fines. The solution is probably increasing the fines. Breaking them is ludicrous in my opinion (though I admit that I am biased in this).
Yep, she was brilliant as Dustin in stranger things and I’m not going to take that away from her but I cant look past the Cambridge Analytica stuff.I really dislike her and the way she’s trying to become the face of the the people. She just switched sides at the opportune moment.
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I’m afraid that reference is lost on me, sorry.Yep, she was brilliant as Dustin in stranger things and I’m not going to take that away from her but I cant look past the Cambridge Analytica stuff.
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