jungledrums
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Give it Giggsy til the end of the season.
Give it Giggsy til the end of the season.
Both.Didn't see the game last night but i've obviously seen the score. Was they as bad as it sounds? Or were PSG as good as they looked?
If they go out the CL this early then i'm sure they'll have a new manager in no time!
It's funny you say that because Spain has the best UEFA co-efficient (English teams are regularly beaten by Spanish teams) and they were outdone by a Spanish manager who sent the team out to press very high (and 3v3, Cavani and the wingers against Busquets and the CBs) like a Spanish team does.The amount of ground covered by the players in the game is also significant. PSG players covered an average of 112k whilst Barcelona only 104k. Do that in the premiership & press them & they would be for it. I keep getting told about how great La Liga is, but I have watched some of the games there, & most of the time they are at walking pace as if they are playing a friendly.
Everybody does.I want Verratti
I think in a nutshell.
* Lucho will be sacked.
* Rakitic will go at the end of the season (he's benched for a reason, I think he's asked to leave, he's clearly better than Gomes).
* Gomes needs to be sold he's not good enough (and nothing will fix that).
* Iniesta will be close to retiring, or be a bit part player next year.
That's three midfielders gone, you also have Neymar who has been dire all season.
To fix the midfield issue, Neymar needs to be sold, Neymar hasn't been good enough all year and he won't step up when Messi retires, Barca could sell Messi but what's the point.
Messi is too important for branding reasons and obviously he's the GOAT.
Selling Neymar would allow the team to get a RB, 2 CMs and buy a LW with the additional funds with the Rakitic money. I think the Midfield is where Barca will lose the big games like PSG all standing off, against RM.
They can get a "decent but not world class" LW player who finishes chances, the midfield actually creating and dominating games is far more important than a flashy winger who is inconsistent half a season.
There's so many issues that Barca won't win the CL or the League in the next few seasons if they don't fix their midfield, it doesn't help that the dressing room is clearly gone for Lucho.
To fix the midfield issue, Neymar needs to be sold, Neymar hasn't been good enough all year and he won't step up when Messi retires, Barca could sell Messi but what's the point.
Messi is too important for branding reasons and obviously he's the GOAT.
Selling Neymar would allow the team to get a RB, 2 CMs and buy a LW with the additional funds with the Rakitic money. I think the Midfield is where Barca will lose the big games like PSG all standing off, against RM.
I think they should sell Messi this summer. He's the best player in the world but I don't think it's worth it to have the best player in the world if he unbalances the squad and makes them almost completely dependent on his performances at the same time. It just puts them between rock and a hard place.
Neymar hasn't been a top 10, let alone a top 4 attacker in this and the previous season.Barca gonna bounce back soon or later. They still have Neymar, probably 1 of 4 best attacking players in the world alongside Bale - Hazard - Griezmann after Ronaldo-Messi's reign, thing gonna change quickly once Barca and Messi allow him to be a main man with all satellites around him. Then obviously Messi hasnt finished yet, also Sergi Roberto is a very good lad owning huge potential, imo Sergi was just simply playing in wrong position. Barca midfield can restart with trio Roberto - Busquet - Messi while Neymar is moving to centre, playing with more freedom and becoming the new Messi as CF in Barca classic 433.
Hopefully this process will cost as much time as it could because I am truly a hater of Barca and Pep, but the situation now is not the end for Barca, must admit this with all x-factors they still have - the ones are capable of building Rome in one night, especially Neymar
Can they afford him? They have some ridiculous wages, and I doubt that they can spend 100m euros (+20m or so in wages) for an another attacker, unless they sell Neymar. And even if they do so, they need to fix their defense and midfield first.Compare this comment with Griezmann's comments today & it looks like Barcelona will be where he's heading
Yeah wages would be a problem, but i'm sure Barcelona would find a way to afford him!Can they afford him? They have some ridiculous wages, and I doubt that they can spend 100m euros (+20m or so in wages) for an another attacker, unless they sell Neymar. And even if they do so, they need to fix their defense and midfield first.
Actually, Messi is the reason they still have a chance of winning the league title. If you have a world class player like him - or let's just say the best player in the world - then it's just logical that you're dependent on him. Messi is the reason Barca is still seen as the best team in the world. Without him, they are 'just' a very good team. I know, he's not getting younger, but he's still 29 years old and can play at least two more years at the highest level.I think they should sell Messi this summer. He's the best player in the world but I don't think it's worth it to have the best player in the world if he unbalances the squad and makes them almost completely dependent on his performances at the same time. It just puts them between rock and a hard place.
He didnt play in the same position he has at Brazil national team you know. That period of time he won Rio 2016 Olympic at the team where he is a centre, a leader with all satellites around him instead of having to play widely as a LW serving main man Lionel.Neymar hasn't been a top 10, let alone a top 4 attacker in this and the previous season.
They are really not that loaded though, are they?After this result....Teams hide your best players as the Barca vultures are gonna start circling. That said, it goes the other way too and there might be some players that might now be 'getable'. I think Rakitic would be superb in our midfield....
If you evaluate a football team, then you can't evaluate them based on 1 player or just their forward line.Messi is the reason Barca is still seen as the best team in the world.
Sigh.........this bench is better than most teams starting eleven. Shows the importance of squad depth (and the lack of it).Madrid has the best midfield, the best set of fullbacks and very good set of CB's. Then there is the question of squad depth where Madrid is arguably the nr 1 team in the world (Casilla-Coentrao-Nacho-Pepe-Danilo-Kovacic-Isco-James-Vasquez-Asensio-Morata is our bench 11).
This wasn't a case of 4-0 flatters PSG; 4-0 flatters Barca. PSG were totally dominant. There is zero chance Barca is beating PSG 4-0.Has any team come back from a 4 goal deficit in Europe? It's extremely unlikely for Barca to come back now, but not exactly impossible for them to win 4-0 at home. They could have really done with an away goal though, they are more than capable of beating PSG 3-0 at home. If PSG scores just goal at the Camp Nou, they are done.
Average age of Madrid first 11 is around 28 and Barca is 28, if you include Umtiti instead of Mascha then it's 27 (I have included players who played most mins in the league for both teams and also age at the end of current season).If you evaluate a football team, then you can't evaluate them based on 1 player or just their forward line.
Yes, Messi is the best player and the front three of Barca is the best set of forwards on paper.
But on paper, Real Madrid is the best team (I emphasize the word "team" here).
Madrid has the best midfield, the best set of fullbacks and very good set of CB's. Then there is the question of squad depth where Madrid is arguably the nr 1 team in the world (Casilla-Coentrao-Nacho-Pepe-Danilo-Kovacic-Isco-James-Vasquez-Asensio-Morata is our bench 11).
You might think Barca is nr. 1, but that aging squad with zero depth is in no way superior to Real Madrid, even if their forward line is much better then what we have at the moment.
1. The fitness of some players is an issue but the team needs more squad players who would enable the coach to get more tactical options. That team was tired physically and/or nervously.Terrible performance last neigh. PSG deserved their win and 4-0 was a fair reflection on the game. A handful of shots and only a couple on target isn't good enough at any level let alone a Champions knockout tie. There was no fight, no desire and not enough effort. I think last nights result and the manner of it reinforced my view that Luis Snroque won't continue on as Bafcelona manager. The tie is done and dusted. We won't score five without reply in the return leg. First failure to reach the last 8 since 2006-07 when Liverpool knocked us out, so we've had a good run. Can't win every year and this won't be our year.
This feels more extreme than usual though.That is how it has always been with managers at Barca.
Absolutely, Thiago Motta, Verratti and Zlatan were unavailable for the 1st leg.In 2015, they faced a PSG side crippled by injuries and bans in the first leg in paris.
The 2015 team would have at least drew this game 2-2 or something.In 2015, they faced a PSG side crippled by injuries and bans in the first leg in paris.
A welcomed trophy considering this mess we are in. If we win it that is, because everything can happen at this point.Barca might win the Copa Del Ray this year. It still a trophy.
Bad. Whole squad except Messi been pretty shite tbf. Think Enrique's time is up, doesn't look like the players give a toss.Neymar one of several looking lost last night. How's he been for them this season?
Matuidi was coming back from an injury and Aurier had been banned.Absolutely, Thiago Motta, Verratti and Zlatan were unavailable for the 1st leg.
Game over.
Thanks.Bad. Whole squad except Messi been pretty shite tbf. Think Enrique's time is up, doesn't look like the players give a toss.
Is Pepe not a starter anymore?Madrid has the best midfield, the best set of fullbacks and very good set of CB's. Then there is the question of squad depth where Madrid is arguably the nr 1 team in the world (Casilla-Coentrao-Nacho-Pepe-Danilo-Kovacic-Isco-James-Vasquez-Asensio-Morata is our bench 11).
Think it's more to do with the fact that without the sale of one of those players they won't possess the funds to purchase the necessary quality in the positions they need to bolster. Their transfer business the past few years has been largely underwhelming, since the Neymar signing I struggle to think of any players that has significantly improved them and it's beginning to catch up with them.What's all this talk about "Sell Messi/Cash in on Suarez while you can"? This isn't the NBA where you move your best guy in order to 'rebuild', they'd be lunatic to break that front three, it's the best in the world and they're in their prime - one game doesn't change that.
Bit of an overreaction in here after that heavy loss, they'll be fine in the long term. They'll replace Enrique in the summer I guess and they just need to finally buy quality players, especially for their midfield. Comes, Alcacer, Duran...all those overpriced buys in the recent windows haven't brought them forward at all, they still rely on an old Iniesta, Pique and Busquets who seems to be allowed to play every time no matter his form. If they get some quality signings (Weigl for example) they should improve.