A florence based journo claimed that United offered 50m euros for Chiesa but he doesn't want to leave Italy. (It did not mention when the offer was made - most probably they re trying to hike his price up)
Federico Chiesa - scouted by United - on his way to Juve
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He does seem like one who doesn’t want to leave his home country. Maybe he feels he’s still very young
Surely we'd have talked to him and his agent before making an offer to his club. If he's told us he doesn't want to come why on earth would we make a bid. Smells like bull.
I like him, but I'm all aboard the Dembouz train.
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All these loans are making me think we'll go for Sancho + someone...
Loan offer for a player who had 30+ starts in the league last season? Sounds like BS.
Be interesting to see if James plays tonight. If he does go you’d think we need two attackers...
I think it’s more of a stop gap option in case we fail to get Sancho. That way we can get someone relatively cheap and save the funds to go again for Sancho either in January or next summer.
Which tbf I'm hoping we do.. Sancho +1 additional wide forward on loan would be very good and give us strength in depth aswell.
Good point, I do think James needs a loan. He needs his confidence back and he's not going to get it playing under the pressure we have.
Or they know they're not getting Sancho and intend to go back in for him next year.
I'm not sure, both Chiesa and Dembele would have expected fees at the end, so you'd push all your cost in to one year which is not ideal.
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Agreed. He clearly lacks confidence at the moment.
Or just making it temporary so that united can get Sancho next summer.
Both can be done at 50-60 m each, maybe a bit more for Dembele. Chiesa wants Juve though as he prefers to stay in italy for the time being
The profile don’t really fit that though. Perisic would make sense for a year - if we brought in Chiesa or Dembele you’d think both of them would be under the impression that if they do well they’re here for the long term.
Dembele has 2 years left on his contract and why on earth would Fiorentina let one of their best talents out on loan without some form of payment coming in. If it's temporary, you'd more likely see Perisic and co.
Yeah, my point was just that they wouldn't be here on loan and go back at the end of the season.
I don't think Dembele is a better player than Chiesa. I'm convinced by that. Dembele has physical advantages that maybe PL might suit (aside from injuries), but Chiesa is an all-rounder. He can finish, he can pass, he's creative, has clever movement on and off the ball. He just works in a team better, and he's a more similar profile to Sancho than Dembele is.
Would love me some Chiesa, he's more business as opposed to flashy like Son and Mane for example.
He can play as backup to Martial as well. Means, we can still sign Sancho next year
Trying to loan Chiesa? I wonder what they're smoking up in Woodwards office. I've seen some eye opening loan deals/ money laundering between Series A clubs where they sell their better players to a rival quite happily, but this is next level.
Sounds good
He's going to Juventus.
Think he'll prove to be a great purchase. Wonder if we went for him and he rebuffed us.
wanted to stay in Italy, so i think yes
Always knew this boy has the level and ability to play for a top club in Europe. I would be satisfied with Chiesa as left winger for United. As a player he has same workrate as Spurs Son, but not as sharp as Son yet.
Easily play Chiesa as left winger and move Rashford back as CF and specialized Rashford as CF/Vardy type of CF...but just better one on one skill than Vardy. And Rashford is a decent header too. He scored a header against, on of his first United first team goal. United need Martial more as a left winger than Rashford as a left winger. Reason why United bought a Cavani and Vardy type of CF. A typical nr.9, not nr.10 like Martial. And Rashford is most close to Vardy than Martial. And Martial is clearly the best with one on one ability. This one on one ability is most suit on the wings, where it is most space and are set up to beating defender. I am missing the Martial and Rashford combinations back to theirs start of theirs career. It was a pleasure to watch Martial on the left and Rashford as the CF. Helping United and Van Gaal to FA glory. That time keep you up from your seats. No Bruno and Pogba. But only with two youngsters up front.
So back to Chiesa. He is now playing with a lot better teammates. In Ronaldo, Kulusevski and Dybala. Line up like this :
Kulusevski - Ronaldo/Dybala - Chiesa + Morata/Dybala/Ronaldo
This is a really good attacking 4
As a left winger. Chiesa top acceleration will suit really good. This boy keep it simple, even he is fast and really good with the ball too. Because what is the point of flashy tricks, while you can beat defenders by top acceleration and speed like Mane too?
Keep it simple, full determination, go straightforward and goal focus. Chiesa has top level on those abilities. Beside hard working and aggressive. He definitely belong to a top team.
And he will definitely have more goals and assists playing regular for Juventus. Kulusevski is best as RW or a supporting CF. So like above. Ronaldo will move in more central and Chiesa will battle for left wing spot. Best attacking 4 combination and solution. With Chiesa and Kulusevski as wingers. It will be a pleasure to watch Juventus this year. Always top guts from those two players.
Its no doubt about his workrate, skills and fighting/winning head...no surprise those abilities will lead him to a top club. Just a matter of time.
Easily play Chiesa as left winger and move Rashford back as CF and specialized Rashford as CF/Vardy type of CF...but just better one on one skill than Vardy. And Rashford is a decent header too. He scored a header against, on of his first United first team goal. United need Martial more as a left winger than Rashford as a left winger. Reason why United bought a Cavani and Vardy type of CF. A typical nr.9, not nr.10 like Martial. And Rashford is most close to Vardy than Martial. And Martial is clearly the best with one on one ability. This one on one ability is most suit on the wings, where it is most space and are set up to beating defender. I am missing the Martial and Rashford combinations back to theirs start of theirs career. It was a pleasure to watch Martial on the left and Rashford as the CF. Helping United and Van Gaal to FA glory. That time keep you up from your seats. No Bruno and Pogba. But only with two youngsters up front.
So back to Chiesa. He is now playing with a lot better teammates. In Ronaldo, Kulusevski and Dybala. Line up like this :
Kulusevski - Ronaldo/Dybala - Chiesa + Morata/Dybala/Ronaldo
This is a really good attacking 4
As a left winger. Chiesa top acceleration will suit really good. This boy keep it simple, even he is fast and really good with the ball too. Because what is the point of flashy tricks, while you can beat defenders by top acceleration and speed like Mane too?
Keep it simple, full determination, go straightforward and goal focus. Chiesa has top level on those abilities. Beside hard working and aggressive. He definitely belong to a top team.
And he will definitely have more goals and assists playing regular for Juventus. Kulusevski is best as RW or a supporting CF. So like above. Ronaldo will move in more central and Chiesa will battle for left wing spot. Best attacking 4 combination and solution. With Chiesa and Kulusevski as wingers. It will be a pleasure to watch Juventus this year. Always top guts from those two players.
Its no doubt about his workrate, skills and fighting/winning head...no surprise those abilities will lead him to a top club. Just a matter of time.
You don't get too many Italian players -especially young one's- moving abroad, them seem to stay in Italy. Honestly, i never thought for a moment he would come to us because we aren't at the top of our game or likely to finish in the top 2 or 3; maybe i'm being harsh about us.
I'm more annoyed about Juve probably winning the league again this season-nightmare & mega yawn. Atalanta all the way for me folks!!!
I'm more annoyed about Juve probably winning the league again this season-nightmare & mega yawn. Atalanta all the way for me folks!!!