It was a terrible finish. He was rubbish.
Florian Wirtz | Der Fußballgott | Der Fluch ist gebrochen!
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Chiesa has been the better transfer.
It’s nearly Christmas, Florian. Come on, do a goal or something.
Wirtz not getting a goal is hilarious.
He will get one eventually but "Not today Zurg"
He will get one eventually but "Not today Zurg"
watch this space. The PL will change the rules next season to award an assist to the player who shoots wide, and the ball deflects for an own goal
Own goal
Was hitting the corner flag and bouncing back into goal like in the comics.
Overall, just a really underwhelming player.
Watched him tonight and there’s strong parallels with Sancho (except he doesn’t appear completely bollock-less and work shy).
He’s obviously very good technically, but without any real pace, power or physicality, he can’t really showcase his technique on a regular basis. He’ll produce flashes and moments, like Sancho has, but I can’t see him ever coming close to justifying his fee with consistent performances because he’s not going to miraculously grow 3 inches or get a yard of pace quicker.
He’s obviously very good technically, but without any real pace, power or physicality, he can’t really showcase his technique on a regular basis. He’ll produce flashes and moments, like Sancho has, but I can’t see him ever coming close to justifying his fee with consistent performances because he’s not going to miraculously grow 3 inches or get a yard of pace quicker.
Still no contributions!
0 goals 0 assists 13 PL games.
'Flo it was it an own goal' says the Sky interviewer barely able stop herself laughing.
Some cheek to try and claim that goal.
Is he any weaker or slower than Bruno Fernandes?
Slight, technical players have succeeded in this league before. While he’s no Sancho, there’s no real bite or decisiveness to his play, even in his better games where he just look to pass the play on in a superfluously technical manner, there’s no zip, no urgency, no ferocity of action where he goes in for the ball and looks to quickly transition it into a defense splitting pass or a shot. He’s just too measured and patient imo, and while that might have worked with a collective that is performing and he gets to get on the ball constantly until he sees the perfect moment, I don’t think the pace of the PL allows for that kind of approach. His failure thus far is as much, if not more, on his mindset as his physical shortcomings.
Thought he was ok tonight. Better than most but some of them were awful (I'm sick of watching Gakpo cut inside and ruin every attack). I think my biggest issue is that he simply doesn't look like a 100 million pound player. Maybe he gets there in time but when you pay that for someone, you expect results straight away.
It's often forgotten that we made two bids before finally agreeing to pay what we did for him. Liverpool didn't value him at that final price initially.
I do think he's one of our better attackers this season. I'd rather see him on the pitch than Salah, Gakpo, Isak or Mac Allister currently.
It's often forgotten that we made two bids before finally agreeing to pay what we did for him. Liverpool didn't value him at that final price initially.
I do think he's one of our better attackers this season. I'd rather see him on the pitch than Salah, Gakpo, Isak or Mac Allister currently.
What an assist for the OG
TBF it is funny his first goal was later corrected as an OG
0 goals 0 assists 13 PL games.
So you're saying he's one game away from double double 0 7?
Worse than Elanga
He lacks intensity more than he lacks pace. But he’s not fast. Bruno’s pace is underrated- far from slow. But there is no fight in Wirtz, no determination and no real strength either.
Physically, he’s a little slower than Sancho with similar intensity levels but a higher workrate. Doesn’t sound great.
That is damning for the others. I think Chiesa is currently a better player. Perhaps he should start on the right? Would be very fee goals is everyone were to play like Wirtz. He’s a nothing player to me. He’s like Mikithariyan with less pace and even worse output.
How many players have ever been sold on the first bid? Not sure what point you’re trying to make, but no club goes in with a first offer that is the maximum they are willing to pay. You paid what you paid and he’s nowhere near worth that.
If he’s been one of your better attackers it explains your struggles, but it’s an absolute damning of others. Nothing more. Wirtz has been mediocre. For an £132.7 million transfer fee (add ons included.Then transferred to euros but expressed in sterling to replicate how our fees are reported) it’s incredibly underwhelming.
As is the lack of scrutiny surrounding his impact. Antony had done more at this stage for us and was getting slated.
Come on - of course the price Liverpool THINK he was worth is the actual price. It makes perfect sense, that is if you are completely delusional.
Antony is an interesting one - he had done A LOT more!
Yeah imagine the pressure if we had signed him. The internet would implode as well, compare the scrutiny Pogba received Vs Wirtz (though maybe that's not a fair comparison as their profile levels were different)
Where are our resident German posters this morning?
After about half an hour of the game last night, him and Isak tried to press a couple of times. The lack of intensity in the press was evident - Sunderland's defenders had an age to evade it. But aftwewards, both Isak and Wirtz looked absolutely gassed.
I think physically he is unsuited to how Slot wants him to play. He's being asked to do too much off the ball, so that when he gets the ball he's already a bit fatigued, which leads to errors and a lack of spark.
Wirtz just can't handle the physical side of the league. It seems nor can Isak when the team is not built around him. Liverpool have signed the wrong players for the style that have brought them relative success over the last decade. It's great to see.
Took the day off still celebrating what they think was his goal. Hopefully they stay away from the Internet for a few days.
Your initial offer in a negotiation isn't what you value the player, it's the lowest amount you think you might get away with paying for him.
Ah, finally some sense. He shouldn’t he judged on his actual transfer fee but the BV (buyer’s valuation) just like Antony was, right?
Thankfully we don’t need to change much in here because even if he was valued at £50m an output of 0/0 after more than a third of the season for the title winners is a bit shite, isn’t it?
I agree our players get judged quicker and more harshly, but then whose fault is that? Liverpool have been annoyingly excellent in the transfer market for a sustained period, we’ve acted like a p*ssed monkey in a sh*t farm for over a decade. A long body of evidence suggests if we’ve paid top dollar for a player, they’ll be dreadful.
But we've been mismanaged and shit for years, last winning the league 12 years ago. So it's easy for the media to be critical as we have made so many mistakes
If we were reigning champions when we signed Pogba, I'm sure he would've been given more time and patience.
TBF it is funny his first goal was later corrected as an OG
I am glad they did it. It was going no where near the goal
That is called negotiating and that’s how these things go. You start with an offer below your highest evaluation of the player and the other club asks for more than their evaluation. If you end up paying more, than you think he’s worth, you are doing bad business.
Not a Wirtz fan and I understand the banter on rivaling message boards and Schadenfreude about the "own goal", but people give to much credits on statistics. So it was an own goal? hahaha who cares, without the shot there would be no goal. Just because it is technically an own goal desn't make it less a "wirtz goal" in my humble opinion.
Sure Wirtz is a bad transfer especially for the price point, but OG or not, it was his doing.
At the end of the day, the final fee paid is the only value that matters.
Your team fecked up if you overpaid for a player despite thinking he’s not worth that much.
The OG is just banter about him still having no goal contributions in the league. He did well until the shot.
The overall performance was still pretty average.
He is a bum, simple as
Even if he got the goal, he'd still be a highly expensive bum.
Even if he got the goal, he'd still be a highly expensive bum.