Florian Wirtz | Der Fußballgott | Der Fluch ist gebrochen!

It's at least something new from him, blatant, shameless cheating. A development. If you can't score or assist - throw yourself to the floor.
 
If he can keep conning VAR by theatrically throwing himself to the ground then he might have some uses after all.

I'm sure you can find a bloke from around the pub that could go around diving for a lot less than £116 fecking million
 
Cunha has been absolutely shite.

See how easy that was?

When a team is in form, it’s easier for everyone, of course. But good players or not, Cunha has been shite, just as Wirtz has been shite.

Show us that German measuring stick again and tell me Wirtz hasn’t been shite.

I have no idea how Cunha has been playing but I actually liked the post I quoted from you because it was refreshingly nuanced and not the usual black and white takes you read on here all the time. Wirtz definitely had decent to good matches in the EPL already. If you can't acknowledge that, you're biased as well. Calling your own player shite, too, doesn't change that.
 
I'm sure you can find a bloke from around the pub that could go around diving for a lot less than £116 fecking million
But will that bloke from the pub also have his mates on here telling us how wrong we all are about how shit he is?
 
Watching people bickering over whether Liverpool's £100m + signing has been fully crap or just below average is lovely.

This is how oppo fans must have felt watching us moan about Antony. Although Antony was a mile ahead of Wirtz at this point in his Utd career.
 
Watching people bickering over whether Liverpool's £100m + signing has been fully crap or just below average is lovely.

This is how oppo fans must have felt watching us moan about Antony. Although Antony was a mile ahead of Wirtz at this point in his Utd career.

The minute Wirtz does a complete 360 on the ball, I'll sit up and take notice.
 
I have no idea how Cunha has been playing but I actually liked the post I quoted from you because it was refreshingly nuanced and not the usual black and white takes you read on here all the time. Wirtz definitely had decent to good matches in the EPL already. If you can't acknowledge that, you're biased as well. Calling your own player shite, too, doesn't change that.

Sorry what are you babbling on about here?

Wirtz has been shite in the Premier League this season, a decent game or two doesn’t change that, in the same way it doesn’t for Cunha, nor Isak, nor VVD, nor Salah. All have been shite.

I’m not at all sure why you’re tangling yourself in knots attempting to claim anything otherwise. He’s been shit, so has his team, in a confident on form team, he should do better.
 
Transfermarket is german and it counts penalties won as assists
 
Transfermarket is german and it counts penalties won as assists
Rule was only changed after the game today as a reaction to the unfair treatment Wirtz has been receiving on RedCafe.
 
Not sure we’re watching the same game. He looked poor to me, technically.

He was very good. Even the English commentators ob Sky said as much. Ekitike stole the show, though. Huge performance not only because of the goals
 
He was very good. Even the English commentators ob Sky said as much. Ekitike stole the show, though. Huge performance not only because of the goals
The English commentators literally praised him for weeks recently for completing a pass. Means nothing.
 
He was very good. Even the English commentators ob Sky said as much. Ekitike stole the show, though. Huge performance not only because of the goals

What do you reckon to his complete lack of goals or assists in the Premier League thus far?
 
The English commentators literally praised him for weeks recently for completing a pass. Means nothing.

They know their football it seems. He's been very good in the last weeks.


What do you reckon to his complete lack of goals or assists in the Premier League thus far?

Disappointing. But I don't rate scorer stats as much as most on here anyway. It makes him an easy target for opponent fans, though.
 
They know their football it seems. He's been very good in the last weeks.




Disappointing. But I don't rate scorer stats as much as most on here anyway. It makes him an easy target for opponent fans, though.
You must have a very low bar for what ‘very good’ consists of, then. Looks completely average.
 
They know their football it seems. He's been very good in the last weeks.




Disappointing. But I don't rate scorer stats as much as most on here anyway. It makes him an easy target for opponent fans, though.
Yeah, but you might expect at least on goal contribution in four months, for a player in excess of £100m.

Your level of bias is staggering. Haven’t seen this level since that Pochettino fanboy who was booted off here a couple years ago.
 
They know their football it seems. He's been very good in the last weeks.
Talksport were raving about how good he was at half time, too.

In the 20 second slot that they’d allocated to not talk about about Salah!
 
They know their football it seems. He's been very good in the last weeks.




Disappointing. But I don't rate scorer stats as much as most on here anyway. It makes him an easy target for opponent fans, though.

It's more the assists, or lack thereof, that must be worrying. He is a creator after all.

He seems to be overwhelmed and hiding while showing small glimpses of his technique.
 
Didn't watch, but I see all the algorithms seem to rate his performance today, and it's not like they actually rate him in general 'cause his PL average is terrible across the board