Florian Wirtz | Der Fußballgott

[IrwinwasbetterthanCarlos]

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Liverpool fans still in denial when he’s joining Dortmund on a loan with an option in 18 months…

 

[erikcred]

But he's really good though, I'm enjoying the situation at Liverpool atm, but Wirtz technical level isn't really in doubt. It's all in his head at the moment, if he can deal with the pressure and Liverpool as a team can find some form he's a top talent.
I always thought he's more a Pep/ Barca kind of player though, like a Pedri or Iniesta profile.

Have you seen Salah getting fouled all these years? Say what you will about him, but refs pretty much turn a blind eye to fouls on him outside the box.

Now, imagine those tactics on Wirtz. He can be super skilled with the ball at his feet, but he needs to figure out how to stay on his feet and come out of tackles with the ball. So far he's been somewhat of a chicken when up against PL defences. You can see this reflected in his performances in Europe compared to those in the league.

I do agree with the last bit of your post. He'd probably have fit in much better at City. But I don't think he'd have been pulling up any trees in his first season there either.

 

[Trex]

Have you seen Salah getting fouled all these years? Say what you will about him, but refs pretty much turn a blind eye to fouls on him outside the box.

Now, imagine those tactics on Wirtz. He can be super skilled with the ball at his feet, but he needs to figure out how to stay on his feet and come out of tackles with the ball. So far he's been somewhat of a chicken when up against PL defences. You can see this reflected in his performances in Europe compared to those in the league.

I do agree with the last bit of your post. He'd probably have fit in much better at City. But I don't think he'd have been pulling up any trees in his first season there either.

Part of Salah's game is to hold the ball up back against center back though. That's not what Wirtz do he's silky and quick footed.

There have been many players in the EPL who play without the physical contest on the ball. Eriksen at his prime in Tottenham, Mata for us and Chelsea, Mahrez is another example, even Bruno at the moment . He's a technical dribbler and also a creative passer, he may not be as good as prime De bruyne in England but he can be much much better than what we've seen.

I don't really want to be defending a Liverpool player because I like how this is turning out for them so far.

 

[AndrewMac]

He literally had a decent game, again in a completely stupid position on the wing. His pass before the second goal was class and he had many very good passes and dribblings, couldve also scored on two occasions with a bit more luck. Why lie?

I don't get it. I've seen a few of your fans keep quoting he played well. He was awful. A few nice touches here and there might make you up a youtube compilation, but his overall game was just so average, not that of a hundred million pound player.

 

[Dave Smith]

I don't get it. I've seen a few of your fans keep quoting he played well. He was awful. A few nice touches here and there might make you up a youtube compilation, but his overall game was just so average, not that of a hundred million pound player.

This is true. Quite a lot of Dippers are still in the denial stage.

 

[strongwalker]

Pair Wirtz with a class act like Sane, and he will produce assists like ford makes cars. Looking bad for Mo, Hugo and Alexander here

 

[hasanejaz88]

Pair Wirtz with a class act like Sane, and he will produce assists like ford makes cars. Looking bad for Mo, Hugo and Alexander here

Flo's passing is magic, making Sane score 1-on-1's

 

[Mike Smalling]

Clearly more comfortable playing with other farmers.

 

[strongwalker]

Flo's passing is magic, making Sane score 1-on-1's

the pass for the 4-0 looked as if he used the inside of the boot to play a pass that curved as if it was played by the outside... or was it the other way around?

 

[Acrobat7]

Should have moved to the Slovakian league.

 

[Wand of a right foot]

Wirtz is a Mesut Ozil type luxury player who is not suited to the PL unless he plays for a pass and move team like Arsenal or City.

 

[ForEverEleven]

Was quite decent wasnt he.

 

[FriedClams]

Was quite decent wasnt he.

In the premier league? No, far far from it

 

[Acrobat7]

Was quite decent wasnt he.

Mate, it’s Slovakia.

 

[B20]

I don't get the second assist. How did he hit it like that?

 

[G3079]

I don't get the second assist. How did he hit it like that?

What do you mean? He just plays it with the inside of the boot, and the ball curves to the left as per usual. Doesn't look odd in any way to me?

Edit: made a gif:

 

[weetee]

What do you mean? He just plays it with the inside of the boot, and the ball curves to the left as per usual. Doesn't look odd in any way to me?

Edit: made a gif:

Yea, good pass but would have been more noteworthy if he would have used the left there. But he‘s only human after all.

 

[G3079]

Yea, good pass but would have been more noteworthy if he would have used the left there. But he‘s only human after all.

If he had used his left foot the ball would have curved the other way around and the Slovakian defender would have possibly gotten to it, rather than have it pass behind the back of his head:

Maybe he isn't human after all

 

[erikcred]

I don't get the second assist. How did he hit it like that?

Messi frantically taking notes…

 

[rimaldo]

oh look, he’s wailing on some farmers again whilst liverpool fans gesture at their stricken bodies.

 

[Mike Smalling]

oh look, he’s wailing on some farmers again whilst liverpool fans gesture at their stricken bodies.

You might say Liverpool fans have been rendering their garments, which are made from shells.

 

[Berbasbullet]

I don't get the second assist. How did he hit it like that?

The lengths you lot are going to.

 

[rimaldo]

The lengths you lot are going to.

“No! It’s definitely late night Salsa lessons as she comes back the next morning with messed up hair and discharge in her knickers from all the exercise.”

 

[weetee]

If he had used his left foot the ball would have curved the other way around and the Slovakian defender would have possibly gotten to it, rather than have it pass behind the back of his head:

Maybe he isn't human after all

If he had a left foot he wouldn‘t have to stop, even move a bit away from the goal, to play with his stronger foot.. instead he could have just kept his pace and hit a low cross. I‘ve seen (superhuman) players doing that before!

 

[Sakasaka]

“No! It’s definitely late night Salsa lessons as she comes back the next morning with messed up hair and discharge in her knickers from all the exercise.”

What a lovely image to start the day !

 

[Fargo]

The people who say that Wirtz isn't PL-ready haven't seen him play that often.

He can do almost anything, he just needs to be used properly. At Liverpool, he rarely gets into the positions he had at Leverkusen. Slot currently has no plan for how to get the most out of his obviously very talented attack.

It's therefore more of a coaching problem than a player problem. Of course, Wirtz hasn't exactly been in top form since his arrival, but it's not being made easy for him either. It doesn't help that Salah is in even more terrible form and isn't providing him with any useful passes.

I do admit though that he would probably look better in a team like Arsenal so maybe Liverpool isn't the right team for him after all.

 

[Gabriel Djemba-Bebe]

The people who say that Wirtz isn't PL-ready haven't seen him play that often.

He can do almost anything, he just needs to be used properly. At Liverpool, he rarely gets into the positions he had at Leverkusen. Slot currently has no plan for how to get the most out of his obviously very talented attack.

It's therefore more of a coaching problem than a player problem. Of course, Wirtz hasn't exactly been in top form since his arrival, but it's not being made easy for him either. It doesn't help that Salah is in even more terrible form and isn't providing him with any useful passes.

I do admit though that he would probably look better in a team like Arsenal so maybe Liverpool isn't the right team for him after all.

I'll admit that outside of Liverpool games, I have only seen him play 5 or 6 other times. But can he really do "almost anything"? Can he ping a pass? Can he outmuscle a defender on his shoulder? Can he even hit a powerful shot? All I see is a neat and tidy footballer who isn't too dissimilar from Van De Beek.

 

[andersj]

I'll admit that outside of Liverpool games, I have only seen him play 5 or 6 other times. But can he really do "almost anything"? Can he ping a pass? Can he outmuscle a defender on his shoulder? Can he even hit a powerful shot? All I see is a neat and tidy footballer who isn't too dissimilar from Van De Beek.

Not sure he can do «almost anything», but he is alot hetter den Van de Beek. I think he potentially looks like Mount at his best, but with a bit more flair. And that is not a bad player.

Probably not a player worth £120 mill and huge wages. But still.

 

[BayernFan87]

I'll admit that outside of Liverpool games, I have only seen him play 5 or 6 other times. But can he really do "almost anything"? Can he ping a pass? Can he outmuscle a defender on his shoulder? Can he even hit a powerful shot? All I see is a neat and tidy footballer who isn't too dissimilar from Van De Beek.

 

[Ish]

In the bundesliga, I was told Sancho could do almost anything as well!

 

[GGMUFinest]

The people who say that Wirtz isn't PL-ready haven't seen him play that often.

He can do almost anything, he just needs to be used properly. At Liverpool, he rarely gets into the positions he had at Leverkusen. Slot currently has no plan for how to get the most out of his obviously very talented attack.

It's therefore more of a coaching problem than a player problem. Of course, Wirtz hasn't exactly been in top form since his arrival, but it's not being made easy for him either. It doesn't help that Salah is in even more terrible form and isn't providing him with any useful passes.

I do admit though that he would probably look better in a team like Arsenal so maybe Liverpool isn't the right team for him after all.

He most definitely cannot do everything. I can’t, for the life of me, grasp the hype around him. Sancho’s end product was equal to Wirtz’s in 39/40 fewer games, and he was nothing but an abject failure in England. A lot of German football fans seem to be under the illusion that he was a sure thing coming to England, when in reality it’s the most ferocious and unforgiving football league in the world.

This is only going to be exacerbated for him when he realises there’s no winter break in England like there is in Germany. Games come thick and fast, and you don’t get to play sides like Augsburg, Heidenheim, and Mainz every week. He has looked nothing short of bewildered in this league and was flat-track bullied by a player who has been converted to a right-back by Pep and shoehorned back into midfield a matter of weeks ago.

 

[Adz_99]

The Bundesliga lot out in force today after an impressive showing against the mighty Slovakia.

Can't wait to watch him stink out the joint again on the weekend.

 

[Rooney in Paris]

If he could "do anything", he certainly wouldn't be in the situation he is currently. That he's being misused by Slot is certainly a valid point, but if he were actually one of the best players in the world as was made out, he'd find a way to impact games at least somewhat. I think people are maybe underplaying just how bad he's been so far.

 

[MaMa given red]

I do admit though that he would probably look better in a team like Arsenal so maybe Liverpool isn't the right team for him after all.

Have you seen Arsenal play recently?

The majority of their goals come from corners.

 

[BayernFan87]

If he could "do anything", he certainly wouldn't be in the situation he is currently. That he's being misused by Slot is certainly a valid point, but if he were actually one of the best players in the world as was made out, he'd find a way to impact games at least somewhat. I think people are maybe underplaying just how bad he's been so far.

Is he really THAT bad?
I watched 4 or 5 Liverpool games over 90 minutes and highlights from most of the other games so far and I wouldn't say that Isak, Salah or Gakpo look any better.
Szoboszlai and Ekitike are their only good attacking players so far this season imo.

I'm wondering why Wirtz is getting so much more "hate" than Isak? Both have been expensive signings, both have been underwhelming so far, but one is already used to the country and the league and the other isn't. Yet the latter is being criticized far more.
Why? Because it's also an opportunity so shit on the Bundesliga?
Because there's not PLDF defending Isak?

 

[Rooney in Paris]

Is he really THAT bad?
I watched 4 or 5 Liverpool games over 90 minutes and highlights from most of the other games so far and I wouldn't say that Isak, Salah or Gakpo look any better.
Szoboszlai and Ekitike are their only good attacking players so far this season imo.

I'm wondering why Wirtz is getting so much more "hate" than Isak? Both have been expensive signings, both have been underwhelming so far, but one is already used to the country and the league and the other isn't. Yet the latter is being criticized far more.
Why? Because it's also an opportunity so shit on the Bundesliga?
Because there's not PLDF defending Isak?

Because Isak didn't have a pre-season and has had injuries (I think?) There's nothing nefarious about it.

As to your first question - yes.

And there's been loads of criticism of Salah (and Mac Allister and Van Dijk for example).

 

[Rolaholic]

The Bundesliga lot out in force today after an impressive showing against the mighty Slovakia.

Can't wait to watch him stink out the joint again on the weekend.

Using International play and his Bundesliga pedigree to make the case for why he's 'PL ready' moreso than the dozen or so sample size we've seen of him within the PL is definitely odd

 

[Gabriel Djemba-Bebe]

Is he really THAT bad?
I watched 4 or 5 Liverpool games over 90 minutes and highlights from most of the other games so far and I wouldn't say that Isak, Salah or Gakpo look any better.
Szoboszlai and Ekitike are their only good attacking players so far this season imo.

I'm wondering why Wirtz is getting so much more "hate" than Isak? Both have been expensive signings, both have been underwhelming so far, but one is already used to the country and the league and the other isn't. Yet the latter is being criticized far more.
Why? Because it's also an opportunity so shit on the Bundesliga?
Because there's not PLDF defending Isak?

Isak has already had back-to-back world-class seasons in the Premier League, so there is the assumption that he will begin to replicate his Newcastle form once he gets fully fit, as he has proven himself to be capable at this level. Whereas Wirtz isn't Premier League proven and also joined Liverpool at the start of the window so he doesn't have the lack of fitness excuse that Isak has been afforded.

'The uploader has not made this video available in your country'. I'll take your word for it though.

 

[romufc]

Is he really THAT bad?
I watched 4 or 5 Liverpool games over 90 minutes and highlights from most of the other games so far and I wouldn't say that Isak, Salah or Gakpo look any better.
Szoboszlai and Ekitike are their only good attacking players so far this season imo.

I'm wondering why Wirtz is getting so much more "hate" than Isak? Both have been expensive signings, both have been underwhelming so far, but one is already used to the country and the league and the other isn't. Yet the latter is being criticized far more.
Why? Because it's also an opportunity so shit on the Bundesliga?
Because there's not PLDF defending Isak?

No, its not about shitting on Bundesliga... do you see anyone having saying anything about Ekitike?

The reason Wirtz is getting more heat is because he was there all pre season, compared to Isaak who has been injured and missed pre season.

If isaak plays 12 PL games without a G/A, the knives will be out dont you worry about that.

 

[Wumminator]

If Wirtz can do almost anything - is it too much to ask he gets a goal or assist in the 15 or so games he’s played outside of Germany this year?