Football rule changes

[roonster09]

1. Accidental handball goal won't stand
2. Substituted players can leave the field anywhere
3. No attacking players in the wall
4. Coaches will receive cards

https://www.skysports.com/football/...-rules-how-will-new-ifab-laws-affect-the-game

No attacking players in the wall and no rebound from penalties will have bigger impact.

Also apparently they have removed "deliberate" in hand ball rule, so every hand ball is a foul. Wonder how they will implement that when hand is close to body or when players in the wall cover their face with hand/elbow.

Edit: Removed rebound from penalties rule as Sky corrected it.

 

[kouroux]

1. Accidental handball goal won't stand
2. No rebounds from penalties
3. Substituted players can leave the field anywhere
4. No attacking players in the wall
5. Coaches will receive cards

https://www.skysports.com/football/...-rules-how-will-new-ifab-laws-affect-the-game

No attacking players in the wall and no rebound from penalties will have bigger impact.

Also apparently they have removed "deliberate" in hand ball rule, so every hand ball is a foul. Wonder how they will implement that when hand is close to body or when players in the wall cover their face with hand/elbow.

You mean they don't have to walk all across the pitch towards the pitch, high five their replacement ? I thought this was already in place.

 

[roonster09]

You mean they don't have to walk all across the pitch towards the pitch, high five their replacement ? I thought this was already in place.

Yeah, surprising it took this much time to change the rule. I have seen players using closest line to get off when they are trailing but this rule is a very good change.

 

[Bratt]

Except for the penalty rebound rule, they all seems like good additions to me.

 

[The Cat]

1. Accidental handball goal won't stand
2. No rebounds from penalties
3. Substituted players can leave the field anywhere
4. No attacking players in the wall
5. Coaches will receive cards

https://www.skysports.com/football/...-rules-how-will-new-ifab-laws-affect-the-game

No attacking players in the wall and no rebound from penalties will have bigger impact.

Also apparently they have removed "deliberate" in hand ball rule, so every hand ball is a foul. Wonder how they will implement that when hand is close to body or when players in the wall cover their face with hand/elbow.

Roy Keane got yellow carded on the weekend didn't he?

 

[roonster09]

Roy Keane got yellow carded on the weekend didn't he?

5. Coaches will receive cards
Currently, coaches only receive verbal warnings for misconduct, but the change will see them receiving yellows and reds as players do.

It will likely be similar to the EFL law adopted last year, where managers can also receive a one-game suspension.

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[kouroux]

Yeah, surprising it took this much time to change the rule. I have seen players using closest line to get off when they are trailing but this rule is a very good change.

Yeah, specially when they're injured, I never thought it was an obligation to go towards the halfway portion of the pitch.
About the penalty rebound, this is unneccesarry, refs (specially linos) need to stop being pussies regarding the players who enter the penalty box before the pen is even kicked.
If a player of the team benefiting does that then book him and scratch the pen, if a player from the team defending does that, book him and retake the pen. Very simple.

 

[GHam]

To stop time-wasting, when a player is taken off they will no longer have to leave the field at the halfway line and can leave the pitch at the nearest point.

Yeah, they won't have to, but they still will. If they can, then why not?

 

[AgentP]

So will these rules be immediately implemented?

 

[Kostov]

1. Accidental handball goal won't stand
2. No rebounds from penalties
3. Substituted players can leave the field anywhere
4. No attacking players in the wall
5. Coaches will receive cards

https://www.skysports.com/football/...-rules-how-will-new-ifab-laws-affect-the-game

No attacking players in the wall and no rebound from penalties will have bigger impact.

Also apparently they have removed "deliberate" in hand ball rule, so every hand ball is a foul. Wonder how they will implement that when hand is close to body or when players in the wall cover their face with hand/elbow.

These two are very stupid imo.

No rebounds? Why is that? The game is continuing and where are they going to restart playing?

And players leaving the field anywhere will cause confusion imo. The way it is is fine.

 

[ROFLUTION]

Why is that penalty rule necessary?

Others are OK, but that seems like change, just for the sake of change. Too much fiddling around with the beautiful game at the moment for me.

 

[roonster09]

These two are very stupid imo.

No rebounds? Why is that? The game is continuing and where are they going to restart playing?

And players leaving the field anywhere will cause confusion imo. The way it is is fine.

Player leaving won't cause confusion. Player will leave the field which refs and linesman can check and once they are off, other player will be subbed in.

 

[Kostov]

Player leaving won't cause confusion. Player will leave the field which refs and linesman can check and once they are off, other player will be subbed in.

So in order for the new player to come in, the one that is going off will have to hurry and not waste time, or otherwise his team plays with 10 men? That looks actually smart.

 

[roonster09]

So in order for the new player to come in, the one that is going off will have to hurry and not waste time, or otherwise his team plays with 10 men? That looks actually smart.

Not sure about card but I'm assuming the refs will ask player to get off the field using nearest line.

 

[kiristao]

Player leaving won't cause confusion. Player will leave the field which refs and linesman can check and once they are off, other player will be subbed in.

It could be used to waste even more time. At Old Trafford, If the player being substituted is near the North East corner flag, he could decide to walk off at the South West Corner flag insisting that he needs to go straight down the tunnel because of a muscle strain. If the idea was to save time wasting, then there should be a time limit within which the player has to leave the pitch once his number goes up or else the next player cannot come in till the ball goes out of play.

 

[roonster09]

It could be used to waste even more time. At Old Trafford, If the player being substituted is near the North East corner flag, he could decide to walk off at the South West Corner flag insisting that he needs to go straight down the tunnel because of a muscle strain. If the idea was to save time wasting, then there should be a time limit within which the player has to leave the pitch once his number goes up or else the next player cannot come in till the ball goes out of play.

According to article, Ref can invoke that rule, to ask players to get off using nearest line. So I think it's up to refs, how they play this rule.

 

[RochaRoja]

Except for the penalty rebound rule, they all seems like good additions to me.

The penalty rebound change is ridiculous.

I was thinking after the Arsenal pen the other day that maybe the concept of penalty kicks in general is outdated. A foul in the penalty area often doesn’t seem to be a serious enough of an offense to punish with such a high probability chance. I’d like to see a standard direct free kick given for ordinary fouls in the penalty area and reserve penalty kicks for professional fouls (regardless of where they take place on the pitch).

 

[Mb194dc]

Why change pen rebounds? Only thing I can think is encroachment is never enforced properly so this just nullifys it.

So the rest of teams will be in GK position when penalties are taken?

 

[Snow]

For people that only read the OP without the explanations from Dermoth Gallagher in the link: Read the article

Every rule change for me seems good. They are making the rules simpler and more clear which will make the referee's job easier. However rule 1 and 2 need to be clarified better but their aim is good.

To stop time-wasting, when a player is taken off they will no longer have to leave the field at the halfway line and can leave the pitch at the nearest point.

Yeah, they won't have to, but they still will. If they can, then why not?

Because they won't be able to if the rule is properly enforced. More yellow cards for time-wasting so expect an above average amount of yellow cards to begin with when players still try to time-waist. After a bunch have been carded they'll get the message and go off the pitch where they are closest to go off.

Why change pen rebounds? Only thing I can think is encroachment is never enforced properly so this just nullifys it.

So the rest of teams will be in GK position when penalties are taken?

Look at Aubameyang's penalty against Spurs. Verthongen got ahead of him when he received a pass after rebound and that was because he was already about 3m inside the penalty box when the penalty was taken. Removing the rebound factor makes the act of taking the penalty simpler and thus take less time because of the players outside the box.

 

[roonster09]

For people that only read the OP without the explanations from Dermoth Gallagher in the link: Read the article

Every rule change for me seems good. They are making the rules simpler and more clear which will make the referee's job easier. However rule 1 and 2 need to be clarified better but their aim is good.

Yeah handball rule should be made clear. If players in the wall use their hands to cover face/balls, will the ref give handball? (that would be very harsh).

 

[Bratt]

No attacking players in the wall? I don’t understand this one ! Define an attacking player ! Pereira is attacking but what if he’s playing in a CM role ?
Are you going to have central defenders in the wall (smalling , lindelof) and then have (mata , martial , rashford ) in the box up against the likes of Opposition Centre backs and attacker’s ! Isn’t it more likely it’ll be crossed in because there will be a significant height advantage ? This makes no sense

No players from the team who takes the free kick, as they’re all attacking players in that situation.
The team defending the free kick may have as many players they want in the wall, including strikers.

 

[roonster09]

No attacking players in the wall? I don’t understand this one ! Define an attacking player ! Pereira is attacking but what if he’s playing in a CM role ?
Are you going to have central defenders in the wall (smalling , lindelof) and then have (mata , martial , rashford ) in the box up against the likes of Opposition Centre backs and attacker’s ! Isn’t it more likely it’ll be crossed in because there will be a significant height advantage ? This makes no sense

Sorry but had to

It means from the team taking the set piece.

 

[Red00012]

No players from the team who takes the free kick, as they’re all attacking players in that situation.
The team defending the free kick may have as many players they want in the wall, including strikers.

Ah ok that makes more sense !!

 

[Snow]

Yeah handball rule should be made clear. If players in the wall use their hands to cover face/balls, will the ref give handball? (that would be very harsh).

Like Gallagher says, in the case of the change the ref will give handball if they gain an advantage doing so. With VAR you can determine whether the advantage was gained or not and you have the benefit of hindsight. If you're in a wall and it hits your hand it's a handball if it's deliberate. Sky did a poor job of explaining that part but if you look at the BBC you see what they are addressing:

The changes mean gaining control or possession and then scoring as a consequence of handling the ball will not be allowed - neither will a goal scored directly from handling the ball, regardless of intent.
Another change to the laws of the game means that if the player's arms extend beyond a "natural silhouette", handball will be given, even if it is perceived as accidental.

"We've changed it to say the body has a certain silhouette," said Elleray. "If the arms are extended beyond that silhouette then the body is being made unnaturally bigger, with the purpose of it being a bigger barrier to the opponent or the ball.
"Players should be allowed to have their arms by their side because it's their natural silhouette."

So a hand covering face would be a foul. Hitting the hands covering the balls wouldn't as that's a natural stance for standing in a wall and isn't advantageous. Similarly having your hands slightly out from your body but down the sides and getting hit by a cross isn't a handball.

 

[Red00012]

Sorry but had to

It means from the team taking the set piece.

Sorry just woke but slow this morning !

 

[roonster09]

Like Gallagher says, in the case of the change the ref will give handball if they gain an advantage doing so. With VAR you can determine whether the advantage was gained or not and you have the benefit of hindsight. If you're in a wall and it hits your hand it's a handball if it's deliberate. Sky did a poor job of explaining that part but if you look at the BBC you see what they are addressing:

So a hand covering face would be a foul. Hitting the hands covering the balls wouldn't as that's a natural stance for standing in a wall and isn't advantageous. Similarly having your hands slightly out from your body but down the sides and getting hit by a cross isn't a handball.

Thank you. This is clearer than Sky version.

 

[Adisa]

1. Accidental handball goal won't stand
2. No rebounds from penalties
3. Substituted players can leave the field anywhere
4. No attacking players in the wall
5. Coaches will receive cards

https://www.skysports.com/football/...-rules-how-will-new-ifab-laws-affect-the-game

No attacking players in the wall and no rebound from penalties will have bigger impact.

Also apparently they have removed "deliberate" in hand ball rule, so every hand ball is a foul. Wonder how they will implement that when hand is close to body or when players in the wall cover their face with hand/elbow.

Very stupid. Especially the second. Once a pen is save or hits the bar, it's back in play. The any hand ball is also stupid.

 

[Marcelinho87]

Goalkeeper also allowed one foot off of the line during penalties.

A Goal kick to be awarded upon a rebound?

 

[Adisa]

Removing the rebound factor makes the act of taking the penalty simpler

I'm not the sharpest tool in the box but that doesn't make sense. How does removing the rebound make taking a pen easier?

 

[duffer]

No attacking players in the wall? What's the point of that one?

 

[Snow]

I'm not the sharpest tool in the box but that doesn't make sense. How does removing the rebound make taking a pen easier?

Because of what all the other players besides the taker and keeper are doing. As the rules are currently written now, the way the refs handle penalties is highly inconsistent.

The referee shall confirm the following requirements
before the penalty kick is taken:

• the kicker is identified
• the ball is properly placed on the penalty mark
• the goalkeeper is on the goal line between the goal posts and facing the kicker
• the team-mates of the kicker and the goalkeeper are:
  • outside the penalty area
  • outside the penalty arc
  • behind the ball

The last point is the problematic one. Players simply can't be refrained from running early into the box and then sometimes a goal is denied because someone did (Verthongen against Arsenal last weekend). So either you enforce the rule everytime you take the penalty which means more VAR time and way more re-takes or you make it simple and abolish the rebound.

 

[Adisa]

Because of what all the other players besides the taker and keeper are doing. As the rules are currently written now, the way the refs handle penalties is highly inconsistent.
The last point is the problematic one. Players simply can't be refrained from running early into the box and then sometimes a goal is denied because someone did (Verthongen against Arsenal last weekend). So either you enforce the rule everytime you take the penalty which means more VAR time and way more re-takes or you make it simple and abolish the rebound.

I understand but the rebound might also be to the takers advantage. The rule to me, only seems to be giving advantage to the team defending the penalty. Either the taker scores or it's curtains.

 

[Wal2Fra]

The handball one is tough as sometimes the players have no control when it takes a funny bounce like agueros goal vs Arsenal. Same with a ball hitting the hand from 2 yards away, are these all going to be called now?

The penatly one kind of makes sense. You had your chance and you missed. When the keeper pulls of a great save for it to be tapped straight in, there is no reward.

Subs leaving anywhere doesn't change anything because time wasted should be added on anyway. If he takes 20 seconds to leave the fiekd add it on...

The attackers in the wall, not sure about that one. If the attacker is not in the wall then he is free from a man in the wall so has a positional advantage. Not every team uses this tactic so not sure the reason they want to do anything with it.

Coaches receiving cards seems pointless. Tell them off then send them to the stands if it continiues, why add cards which mean the exact same thing...

 

[RochaRoja]

Why change pen rebounds? Only thing I can think is encroachment is never enforced properly so this just nullifys it.

So the rest of teams will be in GK position when penalties are taken?

Basically because the officials are too lazy to check for encroachment.

I guess it’s been done because of VAR as actually enforcing the rule would lead to penalties being retaken at least five times before it’s done properly.

 

[Kostov]

Not sure about card but I'm assuming the refs will ask player to get off the field using nearest line.

No no I meant, he is told to go of by the nearest line, and automatically his team is a player down, and he has to hurry so his replacement comes in as fast as possible. Now how will the ref handle some bellends, is another story.

 

[Snow]

I understand but the rebound might also be to the takers advantage. The rule to me, only seems to be giving advantage to the team defending the penalty. Either the taker scores or it's curtains.

There is probably some advantage being taken away from the attacking team but I don't know how many goals are scored from a penalty rebound. It might be an insignificant number where this rule change would make the whole process much smoother.

 

[Revan]

I don't like the no rebound from penalties, like the no attackers in the wall, and find the other three pointless.

 

[Snow]

I don't like the no rebound from penalties, like the no attackers in the wall, and find the other three pointless.

You could just read about the points of the rule change instead of assuming the pointless. That way you'd see the point...

 

[Revan]

Goalkeeper also allowed one foot off of the line during penalties.

A Goal kick to be awarded upon a rebound?

To balance things it should be an automatic goal if the keeper doesn't stay in line.

 

[deef]

Why is that penalty rule necessary?

Others are OK, but that seems like change, just for the sake of change. Too much fiddling around with the beautiful game at the moment for me.

I'm all in favor of this rule... A penalty is the biggest advantage you could get, if you miss you shouldn't get a second change through a rebound.

Also it takes away the annoying pushing around the area and the question if a penalty should be repeated because a defender was running in the box too early.