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Should be Gravenberch vs Bellingham or Musiala vs Hudson Odoi. Id take Hudson Odoi and Gravenberch but everyone can ball.
Hopefully he can get some proper playing time in the first team.He’s struggled to break through for Celtic. There were reports that he was looking to leave. Then there were rumblings that he was going to play a lot more this season but he picked up a fairly bad injury in pre-season. Still plenty of time for him though.
I see what you mean. He is overly cautious. But a semi-final and then a final must be at least partly due to him. He could be one of those that’s good but a tiny bit short at the business end.Probably not, no. He’s way too defensive & doesn’t play to the teams strengths. I actually think England made the final in spite of him, rather than due to him.
I'd say he's comfortable aheady of Coman already.But Musiala is already giving Sané, Coman and Gnabry a really good battle for the starting positions in the squad, which might be a bit harder than to get in the Dortmund squad.
He probably would if he played the same position als Musiala, given Sané's sketchy form and Coman's perpetual injury (and also form) problems. He wouldn't as a CM because Kimmich and Goretzka are just about as good a midfield duo as you can find at the moment.Would Bellingham start regularly for Bayern?
Bellingham could potentially replace Kimmich, Goretzka or Müller in Bayerns system. That would be a tougher task than replacing the often inconsistent and injured wingers Bayern have.It's an interesting question which leads me to a different one: Would Bellingham start regularly for Bayern?
I'm thinking Musiala, though I've only seen him play the one time in the Barca game, wouldn't look out of place in Dortmund's starting lineup?
He probably would if he played the same position als Musiala, given Sané's sketchy form and Coman's perpetual injury (and also form) problems. He wouldn't as a CM because Kimmich and Goretzka are just about as good a midfield duo as you can find at the moment.
I need to see a lot more of Musiala. Thanks for the responsesBellingham could potentially replace Kimmich, Goretzka or Müller in Bayerns system. That would be a tougher task than replacing the often inconsistent and injured wingers Bayern have.
So I don't think Bellingham would start very often there, but I also think this woulf be no indication of a quality gap between him and Musiala.
Stop. You need help. This is an addiction.I think we should buy Bellingham so we can fairly judge them under fair and even conditions.
Good shout. He's not playing for a CL club so he seems to be flying under the radar outside of Germany.When we are talking about 18 year olds in the Bundesliga... Florian Wirtz *scnr*
bellingham is one of the most promising players out there if he starts I can't be surprised
My thinking was based off the players Bayern currently have. That he could make regular appearances but not necessarily dislodge one of their startersbellingham is one of the most promising players out there if he starts I can't be surprised
Its a strange one because he spent most his childhood in England and his mates are all here. Wonder why he opted for Germany when he mostly played for England youth?Haha. A very well reasoned and thought out choice
Maybe he wanted to win stuff? Or maybe it's for personal reasons that we can't possibly know.Its a strange one because he spent most his childhood in England and his mates are all here. Wonder why he opted for Germany when he mostly played for England youth?
He gave an interview to the Athletic touching on this question. It sounds like he loves both countries, but the easier or clearer pathway weighed it in Germany's favour?Its a strange one because he spent most his childhood in England and his mates are all here. Wonder why he opted for Germany when he mostly played for England youth?
I have a heart for Germany and a heart for England. Both hearts will continue to beat.
"In the end I listened to my feeling that it was the right decision to play for Germany. Still, it wasn't an easy decision for me in the end.
"I had a very good and honest conversation with Joachim Low," Musiala revealed. "We met personally in Munich.
"At this meeting, Mr. Low showed me a very clear path for me in the national team. Mr. Low and Mr. Bierhoff were very interested in me, wanted to understand my motivations and to get to know me as a person. I was impressed with how well informed they were.
"Mr. Low worked out and analysed my playing style as well as my strengths and weaknesses very well and clearly. He also sees me in my strongest position in attacking midfield in the future and appreciates my qualities there. So I would definitely say that Mr Low, Mr Bierhoff, but also Hansi Flick and my teammates at Bayern had a positive part in my decision."
I'm not far from Croydon. I'll ask aroundMaybe he wanted to win stuff? Or maybe it's for personal reasons that we can't possibly know.
Agent Muller, Neuer, Goretzka, Kimmich, Flick, Sule, Boateng, Gnabry, Sane.Maybe he wanted to win stuff? Or maybe it's for personal reasons that we can't possibly know.
pretty darn convincing. They wanted him more. Didn't think these national coaches went after players like thisHe gave an interview to the Athletic touching on this question. It sounds like he loves both countries, but the easier or clearer pathway weighed it in Germany's favour?
Some personal reasons, he also mentioned that Brexit played a role in the decision to leave the UK.Its a strange one because he spent most his childhood in England and his mates are all here. Wonder why he opted for Germany when he mostly played for England youth?
Tis indeed a strange one. I think his father is the Brit parent as well (by way of Nigeria) .Its a strange one because he spent most his childhood in England and his mates are all here. Wonder why he opted for Germany when he mostly played for England youth?
Its a strange one because he spent most his childhood in England and his mates are all here. Wonder why he opted for Germany when he mostly played for England youth?
“I’ve thought about this question a lot,” he says. “What is best for my future? Where do I have more chances to play? In the end, I just listened to the feeling that over a long period of time kept telling me that it was the right decision to play for Germany, the land I was born in. Still, it wasn’t an easy decision for me.”
We can stop whenever we want. We just don’t want to.Stop. You need help. This is an addiction.
I'm sure you are. You're again tirelessly giving your best to ruin the league for everyone bar Bayern fansWe can stop whenever we want. We just don’t want to.
Somebody said Wirtz? Hope we’re after him, too. Seems very promising.
It's not that long ago that he moved there, as he is a Cologne youth product. If someone makes a swift move there is still hope that he is not infected by the Vizekusen curse.You can get the player out of Leverkusen, but you can't always get the Leverkusen out of the player. Wirtz kind of has that hanging over him still.
Is this the German version of Spursy? Christ we took a big risk signing Havertz.It's not that long ago that he moved there, as he is a Cologne youth product. If someone makes a swift move there is still hope that he is not infected by the Vizekusen curse.
Arguably worse.Is this the German version of Spursy? Christ we took a big risk signing Havertz.
It's his formative years though. Brandt still hasn't recovered from it and perhaps never will. Henrichs and Castro seem to be suffering from long-kusen as well.It's not that long ago that he moved there, as he is a Cologne youth product. If someone makes a swift move there is still hope that he is not infected by the Vizekusen curse.
Every German club is like Spurs except Bayern. We're all competing for the second place over hereIs this the German version of Spursy? Christ we took a big risk signing Havertz.
You did.Is this the German version of Spursy? Christ we took a big risk signing Havertz.
Kroos, Carvajal, Vidal and Havertz have been doing fine, though. Maybe you shouldn't join Dortmund if you want to win stuffIt's his formative years though. Brandt still hasn't recovered from it and perhaps never will. Henrichs and Castro seem to be suffering from long-kusen as well.
Sure, the cup winner is a club you should not join if you want to win stuff? WTF?Kroos, Carvajal, Vidal and Havertz have been doing fine, though. Maybe you shouldn't join Dortmund if you want to win stuff
Apologies. You can go there if you want to have a shot at the DFB Pokal once in a while, sure.Sure, the cup winner is a club you should not join if you want to win stuff? WTF?
Well you're long of making his point. None of those players stayed at Leverkusen long. That's the only, if you stay long enough you get infected and never recover. Tah is now so infected no team wants himKroos, Carvajal, Vidal and Havertz have been doing fine, though. Maybe you shouldn't join Dortmund if you want to win stuff
That's a very controversial topic among Leverkusen fans. The comfort zone is usually brought up by fans who think that all we need to win a title is a bit more ambition to win titles.All jokes aside it's a legitimate problem at Leverkusen and their fans call it "Komfortzone", players don't have pressure to succeed, they don't have pressure from the stands they have no/less pressure from the media and they do not really face pressure of being dropped and that makes it harder for them to develop their mentality.
Bayern are the benchmark in this regard, because everything is turned up to maximum volume and they can just about drop anyone who is still susceptible to such problems, Leverkusen more or less can't and the dial is low. E.g. if Musiala's success ever gets to his head Bayern will just drop him, like they even did with Sane. However if Wirtz develops some attitude or lazyness he will keep on playing.