Yes but what annoys me is that no one will use that as a reason to boycott a tournament or even show activism against it.
that is blatant hypocrisy.THIS!!! 100% fecking this.
There won't be one thread on boycott USA 2026.
Well, it’s the people in power deciding actually, just as they currently do in Iran, and previously in the UK woman couldn’t vote either, it just was that way, so thank God woman like Moss Side’s Emmeline Pankhurst exist and the World aint just full of therealtboy’s bowing down to the rich and powerful.
Maybe the corrupt people from the West shouldn’t have accepted their bribes?
And like Colonial Britain. See a trend bud?
Good post.
Are you telling an Irishman Colonial Britain is bad to win an argument ?
You can be against homophobia and islamophobia at the same time, you know.
Actually you can't.
You’ll be looking for a long time to find people here with think Colonial Britain was a good thing that we should’ve continued with because it was our culture.
This may be hard for you to comprehend but in my experience the people fighting for LGBT rights also tend to stick up for the rights of other minorities.
Find one person saying both those things.
I am.
Am I supposed to know where you’re from?
Well you do know the reason it's illegal to be homosexual in the middle East right ? Well illegal for Muslims anyway ?
Actually the second group in my experience are much more likely to not call the law against homosexuality horrific.
This isn't a case of different but somewhat valid societal outlooks coming into conflict, where we might say that the person visiting a country should adapt to their norms to be respectful to their host's culture.
Aye. Like European means anything beyond geography.
Who is sticking up for the awful shit though?
I do. I grew up in Catholic Ireland, same thing.
All countries have done awful shit which people through protest got changed.
No it isn’t. Find me this many posts from the Russia WC then though. If you don’t find even 10% as much then would that make it hypocritical?Who is sticking up for the awful shit though?
It’s not fecking hypocritical if we are against all of that awful shit is it man?
Absolutely nothing. It’s common in Middle Eastern countries for men to hold hands while walking in a cultural manner of friendship. Believe it or not, you’ll even see some resting their head in the lap of their friend. You won’t get executed.
It may be "their country" but the historical and cultural epicenter of football is inherently western, as evidenced by where the bulk of good players and clubs are located; as is FIFA, as are most traveling fans. Therefore the social norms that undergird football tournaments will also be in sync with pluralistic values synonymous with Europe, irrespective of where a WC is hosted.
You ever been there? I'm guessing not, else you'd never say this. Qatar shits on most countries. When was the last time you were able to leave your home unlocked or your possessions unattended in public spaces? Qatar is a beautiful country with wonderful people, majority of whom are expats.
Or, or... maybe those who find Qatar so offensive shouldn't go?
Even if that was true, it's still unclear to me what your point is. Surely what we would take away from the situation is "we should have criticized Russia more" and not "we should criticize Qatar less"?
Precisely. It's their country, anyone who goes there is a guest. You wouldn't expect to go into someone's home and tell them how to live. If you find their way of life so offensive, don't go.
Do you offer meat to vegan friends when you invite them to your house? Or pork to muslims?
No one here is a guest in their country. We are criticizing it remotely, which is where a vast majority of fans will be watching from.
some posters are patheticI said anyone who goes is a guest.
That doesn't mean the policy won't be criticized from the outside, as well it should.
I don't know why people make this argument when it's such obvious, common sense defying nonsense.
