aeh1991
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I think this boy has some special talent and we should get him if we decide to sell Garnacho. Also suits the R10 role.
Fair enough. As I say, I know very little about the guy, but do like the idea of raiding the best young talent in South America.Vinicius and Rodrygo were absolute certs barring injury. As good as Mastantuono looks, I've read from people that watch him regularly that there are a lot of fundamental things he needs to work on so for the price they are looking to sell him, that presents a big risk. It's been a very long time since the 'next Maradonna/Messi' coming from Argentina (Thiago Almada, Echeverri, Presstianni) lived up to their expectations past youth level so its fair to be cautious.
I guess it comes down to the structure, £38m seems like a ridiculous sum to blow on a prospect given our current squad and financial position, but if they accept instalments spread over 5 years? it is what £7.6m this summer, for one of the hottest prospects, all of a sudden it becomes a different proposition.Vinicius and Rodrygo were absolute certs barring injury. As good as Mastantuono looks, I've read from people that watch him regularly that there are a lot of fundamental things he needs to work on so for the price they are looking to sell him, that presents a big risk. It's been a very long time since the 'next Maradonna/Messi' coming from Argentina (Thiago Almada, Echeverri, Presstianni) lived up to their expectations past youth level so its fair to be cautious.
Vinicius and Rodrygo were absolute certs barring injury. As good as Mastantuono looks, I've read from people that watch him regularly that there are a lot of fundamental things he needs to work on so for the price they are looking to sell him, that presents a big risk. It's been a very long time since the 'next Maradonna/Messi' coming from Argentina (Thiago Almada, Echeverri, Presstianni) lived up to their expectations past youth level so its fair to be cautious.
I mean Enzo is the one who is a bit older and has done more. He hasnt lived up to his big price tag and initial potential when he helped Argentina win the world cup but overall with 6 goals and 7 assists in the league, he's been pretty good this season and looks a solid good player and only slightly behind Cole Palmer's 2.6 key passes per 90 mins, with Enzo being 2.5
A player would only need to be half, or a third as good as Messi or Maradonna for it to be worth signing him. And its not as if Rodrygo is Pele or Ronaldinho so its a bit weird to hold Argentine's to such a standard else not be interested.
I think that’s revisionism to be honest. I’ll have to dig out the links but while Vini was seen as having huge potential, there were also verified reports that Madrid were shocked when he first came at how he couldn’t even do some of the basics, and that it took a year of intense extra coaching to bring him up to standard. He was by no means seen as a certainty, just a high potential player with a ton of media hype. Ronaldo (the Brazilian one) famously said that upon leaving Brazil Vinicius couldn’t even control a football with his left foot, let alone dribble with it. I don’t doubt Mastantuono has deficiencies to be improved but barring the Messi’s of this world, I’m pretty sure ALL young players do; and there is rarely ever such a thing as a cert.Vinicius and Rodrygo were absolute certs barring injury. As good as Mastantuono looks, I've read from people that watch him regularly that there are a lot of fundamental things he needs to work on so for the price they are looking to sell him, that presents a big risk. It's been a very long time since the 'next Maradonna/Messi' coming from Argentina (Thiago Almada, Echeverri, Presstianni) lived up to their expectations past youth level so its fair to be cautious.
Unfortunately I don’t think we can make these sorts of signings for at least two seasons. Our finances now necessitate us getting up the table and unless we have a crazily transformative season and end up in the CL, we’ll need to only make shrewd signings that impact the first team squad with immediacy.I really think this is the type of signing we need in addition to cunha/Mbuemo types. Like a really really special player. If not him, someone else. Need to add a genius element
I really think this is the type of signing we need in addition to cunha/Mbuemo types. Like a really really special player. If not him, someone else. Need to add a genius element
This is what I've been saying. A Yoro level talent but in the attack. Unfortunately, like others have said, the priority has to be on building a base of senior players to allow these youngplayers room to develop, otherwise we end up with another Garnacho or Hojlund.I really think this is the type of signing we need in addition to cunha/Mbuemo types. Like a really really special player. If not him, someone else. Need to add a genius element
This is what I've been saying. A Yoro level talent but in the attack. Unfortunately, like others have said, the priority has to be on building a base of senior players to allow these youngplayers room to develop, otherwise we end up with another Garnacho or Hojlund.
Garnacho is getting pelters.Who doesn’t love getting excited by a young winger even if they are inconsistent.
So was Yoro...Out of our league
Fair pointSo was Yoro...
Mainly because of his attitude.Garnacho is getting pelters.
So was Yoro...
And he'd be at Real if they were willing to pay his feeSo was Yoro...
Then it is not at any costIMO we should be in for him at any cost, but not more than £17m.
Perhaps we should go for theses teams shiny toys from last year not they've lost their lustre. Wonder if the likes of Moscardo would be available for cheap. Tchouameni/Camavinga or even Endrick might be available?The teams in for him reveal his tier. Now it’s a loss.
No offence to us, but that’s one hell of a drop at the moment. I think it’s a sound strategy (remember Bayern picking up Robben?), but not a viable one for us at the moment.Perhaps we should go for theses teams shiny toys from last year not they've lost their lustre. Wonder if the likes of Moscardo would be available for cheap. Tchouameni/Camavinga or even Endrick might be available?
Well he's not, he's here.And he'd be at Real if they were willing to pay his fee