Franco Mastantuono | signed for Madrid

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He's just had a shocker in the 59th minute. Through on goal, 2 attackers on 1, and he's completely fluffed it. Then he puts his hands on his head, as do the supporters.

He'll fit in perfectly.
 
17 years old in the fastest and most physical league in the world in a niche position for an unstable club with a coach who may not see Christmas unless things dramatically improve as soon as next season starts ?

Looks a great prospect and just seen his free kick but we don’t even have a solid foundation let alone in a place for luxury wonder kids. We need a keeper, a right wing back, a left wing back, a Casemiro replacement, an Eriksen replacement, a left sided 10 and a striker whilst sailing close PSR wise.
We just signed dorgu - give him a chance for christs sake.
 
This will be one of those players who goes to a rival and we all remember that time we were linked to him and did nothing. I’m basing this purely off what I’ve read from River fans on Reddit who are of course going to be bias. But he’s a huge huge talent, the best to come through their club in a long time and sometimes you just have to bite the bullet and go for them. We can’t let Chelsea be the only club in England hoovering them all up.
 
I remember Facundo Pellistri looking like a world beater from his time with Penarol. Hard to tell how these folks will translate
 
I remember Facundo Pellistri looking like a world beater from his time with Penarol. Hard to tell how these folks will translate
He looked like a decent enough dribbler with not much creativity, vision, passing range or end product. This kid looks a different level of talent.
 
Looks a lovely player. The suggested prices feels a bit insane.

Google tells me that River Plate as a club is valued at about 89 million euros. He must be bloody important to them if he's worth 50% of the entire club at 17!
 
I remember Facundo Pellistri looking like a world beater from his time with Penarol. Hard to tell how these folks will translate
He absolutely did not look a world beater. Amad looked a world beater in the clips of him ripping the Atalanta team a new one in training, Pellistri looked like he had some potential if he could get his decision making in order and learn to put in an excellent cross. But far from a world beater.
Looks a lovely player. The suggested prices feels a bit insane.

Google tells me that River Plate as a club is valued at about 89 million euros. He must be bloody important to them if he's worth 50% of the entire club at 17!
He’s worth what someone will pay for him. I think both Echeverri and Anselmino (who are the latest PL arrivals from Argentina) had their clauses triggered. Those were in the €20-25m range I believe. I think Mastantuono is similar value to Echeverri, and I think River would sell for less than the clause
 
If the fvcker ends having a great carreer, this goal will be among his best no doubt...anyway this was not the game to show up motherfvcker.
 
Would you prefer him to Eze then, personally can only see us signing one even IF we won Europa. The trouble is I fear the same with the striker situation when we NEED two.
 
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He absolutely did not look a world beater. Amad looked a world beater in the clips of him ripping the Atalanta team a new one in training, Pellistri looked like he had some potential if he could get his decision making in order and learn to put in an excellent cross. But far from a world beater.

He’s worth what someone will pay for him. I think both Echeverri and Anselmino (who are the latest PL arrivals from Argentina) had their clauses triggered. Those were in the €20-25m range I believe. I think Mastantuono is similar value to Echeverri, and I think River would sell for less than the clause
No, his release clause is higher than Echeverri's, who kind of forced his way out of the club (horrible decision, now he doesn't even play for City). Mastantuono did no such thing, he's 2 years younger and his release clause is one of about 45 M (dollars). I'm not allowed to post media, but here's a link to his goal: https: //x.com/Ben_Mattinson_/status/1916568879964524907
 
17 years old in the fastest and most physical league in the world in a niche position for an unstable club with a coach who may not see Christmas unless things dramatically improve as soon as next season starts ?

Looks a great prospect and just seen his free kick but we don’t even have a solid foundation let alone in a place for luxury wonder kids. We need a keeper, a right wing back, a left wing back, a Casemiro replacement, an Eriksen replacement, a left sided 10 and a striker whilst sailing close PSR wise.
He looks fecking ridiculously talented.
 
Ah I wish we can convince the guy. Need a bit of transfer excitement in my life and Cunha and Delap just aren't cutting it. He seems to be the real deal and it'd be incredible to actually sign a gem from South America before he goes off into the extended City feeder club network or one of the Madrid clubs.
 
No, his release clause is higher than Echeverri's, who kind of forced his way out of the club (horrible decision, now he doesn't even play for City). Mastantuono did no such thing, he's 2 years younger and his release clause is one of about 45 M (dollars). I'm not allowed to post media, but here's a link to his goal: https: //x.com/Ben_Mattinson_/status/1916568879964524907

Your welcome gallina hahah...felicitaciones la puta que te pario! ja.

PD: Golazo del pendejo, es el nuevo Beto con esta progresión

 
The problem is City already signed that and left him on loan at the same club, Claudio Echeverri - where he was usually picked instead of Mastantuono. He is a bit older but River, having him on loan had no reason to play him over Mastantuono unless he would get them more points.



Compared to him, Mastantuono has some qualities that might see him play wide (More speed, not quite the same ball control and technique) so might not even end up as a 10. He has played 10 games on the right wing and 2 as an AM. Claudio Echeverri has been at City this season since Jan and hasnt played for the first team or the youth teams...

Having said all of that he's a talented young player who can run with the ball and has scored some nice freekicks. He's easily good enough to be a signing for us. He doesnt need to be anywhere near Argentina's best bet for their next great #10 for that.


You think Echeverri is more naturally talented?
 
Your welcome gallina hahah...felicitaciones la puta que te pario! ja.

PD: Golazo del pendejo, es el nuevo Beto con esta progresión
Jaja gracias loco :). La verdad que pinta bien el loco, nos va a durar poco me parece.
 
You think Echeverri is more naturally talented?

Echeverri it's more of the typical little dribbler, faster, more explosive. Yet he is not of the bulky, powerful type and that soemtimes plays against these type of felals with the cksntant fouling, like it happened with Aimar that swims between the style of Echeverri and Franco
 
Jaja gracias loco :). La verdad que pinta bien el loco, nos va a durar poco me parece.

Yeah, yet it would be silly if he goes right now with these nutters, no matter if they pay the 38 million pounds, he has to be patient, mature, suffer some lows even. Right now he does not have to go anywahere to save any team at all.
 
It would make sense if the fee is similiar to Echeverri. With the signing of Leon we could be looking more at the S. American market.

Purely based on his highlights he looks like he is good at getting out of congested areas in the midfield and central attacking areas. His striking seems ok, not stand out. Looks like a play maker. One highlight showed him pressing intensely, but didnt see more of that.

Again based on highlights Im not seeing a generational talent but at 17-18 a prospect in the same mold as amad.

Am I missing something?
 
Ah I wish we can convince the guy. Need a bit of transfer excitement in my life and Cunha and Delap just aren't cutting it. He seems to be the real deal and it'd be incredible to actually sign a gem from South America before he goes off into the extended City feeder club network or one of the Madrid clubs.
Yeah we are crying out for more attacking excitement to join Cunha and this guy could fit the bill
 
Exactly and I’d hate to see us do what we’ve been doing for a decade in ignoring what we have coming through the academy in order to buy an exotic sounding wonder kid, from the videos I’ve seen he looks potentially great but we’ve already got Amad as well as Lacey and Mantato coming through.
It’s not just “exotic sounds”, though. The problem you’ll have with guys like Lacey, Mantato, and whoever else we have — they may very well have comparable potential and quality at youth level — but the actual senior level experience will separate. Mastuondo’s season right now playing at the highest (senior) level might not be something some of our excellent youth players see for another 2-3 years.
 
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yeap....

he is very similar to Alonso (the oldie one, the argie) as a player. Bad news for me being a Boca fan, good news for teh NT if the praise doesn't get him and he manages his carreer with some wisdom.
 
I remember Facundo Pellistri looking like a world beater from his time with Penarol. Hard to tell how these folks will translate

Pellistri has never and will never look like a world beater. The way people were wishing him to be amazing into existence was always admirable but silly.
 
You think Echeverri is more naturally talented?

Yes but in certain ways. More technical and better in tight spaces, like playing as a #10 against a well organized team defending which is something the big foreign clubs and of course City would value more

Mastantuano seems more athletic which might suit the premier league more and could be a freekick specialist having already scored a great one, looks a bit more versatile too as he has most experience playing wide

Not sure who is more creative or a bigger goal threat. Their assists and goals are close and no idea about key passes stats for example. Both very good young players for me
City have a bit of an interesting recent history with argentine youngsters. Most of them have gone missing or been out on loan and not made it there but then Julian Alvarez was a great success. A good example is Sarmiento

https://www.skysports.com/football/...r-who-has-played-for-argentina-at-youth-level

He went on loan a few times but whenever he would go back to City he wouldnt play in the youth teams and never made it to the first team. Finally left in the summer at 22 years old, back to Argentina and has only played twice according to transfermarkt. But I thought he was going to be a really good dribbler back then before City signed him



Echeverri not playing since they signed him in Jan, well its a bit too early to worry the same thing is happening but if he still hasnt played for their youth teams or first team at all in a year it could be something similar.
 
The freekicks and long range shooting should be practically a 100% transferrable skill to the premier league
 
We should make a move for this guy unless by some miracle we could lure Eze/Semenyo to supplement Cunha and Delap (Europa League win dependent)
 
That's not what they said. As someone just reading through the thread, it's very obvious to me and I thought "clear strawman" before even seeing them reply. Don't then also turn to gaslighting when you're called out on it. That was not their opinion, you put words in their mouth and twisted what they said.

Their point isn't difficult to grasp. We will continue to invest in both starters and potential future talent. We've always done this, it's very normal.

Garnacho is one of many examples. As is Amad. The idea being that you can get a player in for a few million up to an Amad level fee, to prevent paying 60/70/80 for that player 2/3 years later.

Obviously there has to be a balance but you need to invest in both, with the plan being that if you get the youth investment correct you don't then need to be buying 3-5 starters every summer. If all you buy is players to go in the starting 11 then, with the price of players as it is, you're going to spend a fortune consistently to keep turning that over.

I know many fans like to fantasise every transfer window about the club buying 5-9 players to go into the starting 11 and they enjoy making horrendous looking squad lists, featuring the new multiple teams the new look squad can formulate, but it never actually goes like that in the real world.
A few million isn't 40 million though.

We've a limited budget. You can't have everything. You can spend a few quid on planning for the future, but the best plan is to be competitive and win things. Spending 40 million on a kid with no expectations is daft. It's a total gamble. City or Madrid can do it, because they've got an 11 in place already. We don't.

Why spend a third of our transfer budget on a future gamble?! Spend it on not finishing 14th next season, fecks sake.
 
He appears to be quality. Watching the game at the moment.

A few million isn't 40 million though.

We've a limited budget. You can't have everything. You can spend a few quid on planning for the future, but the best plan is to be competitive and win things. Spending 40 million on a kid with no expectations is daft. It's a total gamble. City or Madrid can do it, because they've got an 11 in place already. We don't.

Why spend a third of our transfer budget on a future gamble?! Spend it on not finishing 14th next season, fecks sake.

That's exactly the mentality you need to succeed. Then you see the likes of Rodrygo, Vinicius, Alvarez and you wonder why you didn't offer when you could...I guess it's a better idea to offer 40+M on Onana, or 80M on Maguire, or 100 on Antony
 
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