He was shit in friendlies too. My point is, nobody is making these kind of decisions based on 1 game. ETH has seen him in training every day, he obviously knows his qualities, what he can do and what he cannot do. I want to believe Rabiot would be an addition to FdJ but in reality I think it's extremely unlikely. It's just a typical case of us panicking because we probably realised we have wasted way too much time already.
Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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This argument over the "DM" label is completely missing the point.
We lost Matic and Pogba and Fred/Mctominay are nowhere near good enough. Our first priority should have been 2 CMs, 1 is not enough.
Chasing De Jong is fine but it still leaves the question of who we're meant to be partnering him with in midfield? Someone with a minimum level of technical quality and defensive nous, of which neither Fred/Mctominay possess. We've completely neglected the 2nd CM all summer.
OK if he reverts to his first terms, then he should still be paid the 17M, because his first contract was 14M annually
Barca taking him to court surely warrants a new thread title @golden_blunder
Oh it always has been. Thing is I believe this would of been done if FDJ wanted to come.
What a despicable football club.
Actually taking court proceeding on their own player and representatives.
The things they're going to do to avoid paying that £17m.Barca taking him to court surely warrants a new thread title @golden_blunder
de Jong: Laporta you owe me £17m you chunky feck
Laporta: No senor, you owe US. Your contact was criminal. You play for free or you leave
de Jong: Yes master, i understand
Yesterday's match was so depressing it burst my enthusiasm. Lost my will to argue with anti-muppets. Desparately need something positive to hold on to.
This is the last, desperate roll of the dice as far as Barcelona is concerned. They are in trouble financially and need him to drop his wages if he stays, thus this coercive, underhanded tactic.
Get out of there Frenkie, before it's too late. Even to Chelsea at this point, Barcelona are not going to exist in a few years. You can quote me on that.
Get out of there Frenkie, before it's too late. Even to Chelsea at this point, Barcelona are not going to exist in a few years. You can quote me on that.
How would it have been done? de Jong just walking away from money he believes hes owed?
Would you walk away from that much money?
Frenkie DeCriminal
We thought it was just emotional blackmail. Turns out it might be almost actual blackmail...
Bit troubling that they apparently informed him about this three weeks ago. It's not a new development and he still doesn't seem to want out
Well all the people who took the 'Barca aren't holding up this potential deal' angle look really fecking silly now.
This will drag on more in all likelihood.
This will drag on more in all likelihood.
He may well have said that he's open to coming but he needs this sorting at Barca first.. There's probably a reason Chelsea haven't followed up their talks with an official bid too. Very messy situation.
I'm more confident after seeing this news that we'll get him
Yes but the guy has attitude problems. Can see problems in the dressing room which we need to guard againt.Sad fact is... Rabiot is still better than McFred
Arnoutovic is still better than anything we have too. Can do loads better but still!
Not sure what the article says, but maybe he does want out on his terms though and not Barca's.
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Ridiculous football club
Frenkie didn't believe it until Ornstein reported on it and quite frankly, who can blame him
His criminality :
1. Looked at Xavi funny during the team's dinner party
2. Used toilet during training when he was only allowed to do a bush wee
3. Followed instructions to play as a CB when he should have refused because he was signed as a midfielder
4. Had fun at the beach with Depay, etc and looked happy during transfer saga which is an indicator of no empathy and psychopathic tendencies. He doesn't care that nobody wants him at the club anymore
Can't wait for the spin of their propaganda gang
It’s fine, the club are doing no wrong. Just trying to sort out finances…
Frenkie would rather go to prison than United. Time to walk away, folks.
What a mess
McFred have killed the buzz for this season can't even summon the strength to enjoy that comedy that is Barca and their blindly devoted disciples. Hope FDJ enjoys his criminal hearing and the bucks he is owed and he will never get.
Don't worry Arnold and his compadres are on the way to bring us another 40 year old striker.
That's the thread titleThat's reasonable though, happens everywhere!
What an absolute mess of a saga, truly the most unique one i've seen.
You know you're fecked when a player would rather play for "Cell Block B" than United.
Small matter of the £17m he is “owed”.
So if he reverts back to his previous deal, doesn't that mean Barcelona are contractually obligated to pay him the deferred wages for 20/21 and 21/22 seasons immediately?
Does Laporta realise they’ll still need to pay up the money that De Jong agreed to be paid at a later date or do they want to cancel his contract so he can walk as a free agent?
Jason Burt says United don't expect to complete a deal at the moment, although it doesn't say that Chelsea do either.
If they void his contract and have him sign a new one, they won't be able to register himDoes Laporta realise they’ll still need to pay up the money that De Jong agreed to be paid at a later date or do they want to cancel his contract so he can walk as a free agent?
True. But there is plenty of talent in tier 2 clubs who would gladly join us but as usual we believe only 1 man can do the job and now we are too late in the window. Laimer, Kamara, Ruiz we probably close those deals no problem in May. The combined cost of less than De Jong, probably wages wise too they would get less than De jong combined all 3 of them. That would have been a big improvement on McFred.
So now he’s a fecking criminal!! Have these lads lost all credibility or what?
I hope Frenkie uses his one phone call to ring Erik
Third point kinda invalidates Chelseas interest though doesn't it?
If they're interested but yet to submit a bid, because apparently they're waiting for a green light, but are willing to pay his outstanding wages, therefore creating the green light, why haven't they done so yet?
They're interested, yes, but i don't think they're THAT interested in him. Barca have been hyping the interest up to get United to crack and pay, i'm sure of it
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