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I can’t believe some are actually believing the nonsense of de Jong not wanting to leave. It’s clear that sport who are basically a mouthpiece for Barca are trying to save face. It must be hard for them and their inflated egos to accept the place they sit currently in having to sell one of their prime assets on the cheap. Let’s put the cynicism aside and enjoy the fact we’re getting a world class midfielder in his prime who is ten Hag’s top target.
 

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English Twitterati are trying to spin the news as a Barca PR disaster; the Spanish press are trying to portray the story in exactly opposite direction.

But if this deal doesn't work out, we lose out more than any involved party, IMO.
Barcelona easily lose out more because they’re broke, and they’ll need to sell off more tv rights etc… which long term will cripple them
 

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These boards are for discussion. If enough posters are consistently, repetitively and wholly negative it will ruin discussion.
I got converted of the need to do so.
Just hope it's not taken too far.
 

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I can't believe this throng has waited so long for the Frenkie swan song, only for the pundits to get it completely wrong. Unfortunately Frenkie is too headstrong and further links only serve to prolong the inevitable - instead we sign Pierre-Emerick Aubameyong. Bring back David and his sarong :(.
 

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Well In life we also have the unintelligent.

Those of you who believe this new narrative might want to check yourselves once the deal is done. As clearly…. Some of you talk like your smart.
It's not about believing the "new narrative" or not. It's about celebrating once the deal is done. It's not done yet.

A club can't force a player to accept a transfer, as you, in your infinite ingenuity, are well aware of.

I believe FDJ will sign, but to see it as a done dealio is a little premature.
 

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I can’t believe some are actually believing the nonsense of de Jong not wanting to leave. It’s clear that sport who are basically a mouthpiece for Barca are trying to save face. It must be hard for them and their inflated egos to acc'-ept the place they sit currently in having to sell one of their prime assets on the cheap. Let’s put the cynicism aside and "_ the fact we’re getting a world class midfielder in his prime who is ten Hag’s top target.
We will find out the actual story in a couple of days.

If after such a story, Barca actually sell FDJ in exactly the quoted price, what story will the mouthpiece run then?

"FDJ didn't want to leave (as we told previously), and yet Barca shoved him off to United on the cheap because of financial reasons!"
 

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It's true though. We have a fixed budget.

With the fair chunk of it going on FDJ. If we use more of that budget on FDJ leaves less for others and that includes £15M on a LB.

How hard is that to understand?
For one because it's bollocks, journalists and are talking nonsense when they push out these numbers but believe them if you wish. We have annualised budgets not some war chest of cash waiting to be spent, replacing Telles with this lad no doubt reduces that annual spend through wages.

If we're after Antony and Martinez from Ajax that'll be a huge cost. We haven't sat and gone well we budgeted for X position so let's use this spare cash lying around for this luxury position without knowing what we'll need to spend. What impact will their wages, payment structure, agent fees have on our annual expenditure? If Ajax demand up front payment for instance it make a huge difference.

It's not football manager lads.
 

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We will find out the actual story in a couple of days.

If after such a story, Barca actually sell FDJ in exactly the quoted price, what story will the mouthpiece run then?

"FDJ didn't want to leave (as we told previously), and yet Barca shoved him off to United on the cheap because of financial reasons!"
And in the end who cares, ten Hag gets his primary target and a player he views is key to the rebuild.
 

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It's not about believing the "new narrative" or not. It's about celebrating once the deal is done. It's not done yet.

A club can't force a player to accept a transfer, as you, in your infinite ingenuity, are well aware of.

I believe FDJ will sign, but to see it as a done dealio is a little premature.
True. I mean Messi the sun idiot. Why didn’t he stay and see out his contract. :lol:
 

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I thought when I saw Sam Luckhurst's piece about United agreeing a deal for De Jong first thing this morning that we'd have more news by now and others would have jumped on. But, nothing?
 

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I thought when I saw Sam Luckhurst's piece about United agreeing a deal for De Jong first thing this morning that we'd have more news by now and others would have jumped on. But, nothing?
Yeah I'm tucking my Jong back in for now
 

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I thought when I saw Sam Luckhurst's piece about United agreeing a deal for De Jong first thing this morning that we'd have more news by now and others would have jumped on. But, nothing?
He also tweeted an article from two years ago describing how good frenkie is. Go hype yourselves up some more while killing time.
 

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Well if you're going to invent conversations to come to a conclusion that I didn't discuss I'm not sure what point I'm supposed to respond on. An extra 15mil you've invented for what reason I've no idea, no one discussed paying more for FDJ.

The idea that we'd be waiting on FDJ savings to sign a LB whilst the funds for CB and RW (positions you think are a priority) are not dependent is ridiculous.

We've always picked up young cheap players with potential when the opportunity arises. They don't limit other signings, this is something the club have briefed plenty of timed.

If we were waiting on anything it would be to get a buyer for Telles first.
Quite funny that you say I invented conversations when I used the word "Could" rather than a definite of how the conversation went. I was using a hypothetical. Funny that you getting onto me on that when you said " We most certainly didn't need to wait" which seems to point that you know United finances inside out and know how much we can / cannot spend.

The signings going forward were dependent on what we can get Frenkie for who was the top top priority, other positions have alternatives.

I.e We went for Nunez as forward, was too expensive so looking at Antony
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We went for Timber as CB but LIsandro and Pau Torres are alternatives.

Ofcourse it matters, we dont go around buying 10 cheap players do we?
 

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Can't quote media but where did Rich Fay say this? It's not on his Twitter.
Taken from this I presume

United have agreed deals in principle to sign both Frenkie de Jong from Barcelona and Feyenoord defender Malacia as part of their summer rebuild under new manager Erik ten Hag.

The respective deals are subject to the players completing medicals, with United having agreed a €15m (£12.9m) with Feyenoord for Malacia and a €65million (£56.14m) deal plus add-ons with Barcelona for De Jong.
https://www.manchestereveningnews.c...ester-united-fernandez-transfer-news-24351255
 

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Can't quote media but where did Rich Fay say this? It's not on his Twitter.
In this article:

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United have agreed deals in principle to sign both Frenkie de Jong from Barcelona and Feyenoord defender Malacia as part of their summer rebuild under new manager Erik ten Hag.


The respective deals are subject to the players completing medicals, with United having agreed a €15m (£12.9m) with Feyenoord for Malacia and a €65million (£56.14m) deal plus add-ons with Barcelona for De Jong.
 

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Why are we wasting so much time on a player that doesn't want to come here?
 

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This is not done until it’s done anyway, as positive as it’s been, I’ve not taken anything for granted.

Romero’s link may not even relate to Frank, could be another player, but regardless, I’ve been in the cautiously optimistic camp.
 
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