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Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
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Seriously, how do you know he doesn't want to come to United?
Depends how much they had to pay on the 30th, perhaps they aren't that bad financially for the foreseeable.
It sounds like take a pay cut and you can stay otherwise leave.
Barca fans have some interesting analogies I'll give them that
If he leaves, then how is him saying he'll stay saving face?
They can't force him to leave. They also can't force him to take a pay cut.
Has to go one way or the other this week it feels. He’ll surely be in the tour party on Friday if it’s going to happen?
It's insane.
Likewise, you have no idea if they want rid desperately or not. Words from the guy who runs the club and the manager say otherwise
They might be ok with letting him go for a big sum to make it worthwhile but he's a top player. Could be a game of bluff and Barca are desperate but also not. So much conflicting information is reported on Barca's so called money problems.
You use the word "seriously"?
He's said it countless times already, Koeman was quoted only days ago saying he spoke with him and was adamant he wants to stay at Barca.
The player and everyone around him has stated repeatedly he does not want to leave and join United.
Or supporters are so incredibly arrogant its beyond frustrating that they just puff out the chests and say were United, who wouldn't want to join... we're an absolute mess.
By saying they offered a new deal but Frankie cared more about the wages. Ergo, not his fault.
Face saved.
We know how bad the financial situation is, been very widely reported mate in case you missed that...
So lets say Laporta is making up other teams that are in for him to force our hand, while using us and his desire to not join us to sign a new contract on lower wages. Damn thats a level up from days when players used us to get new contracts.
Nope, but they managed to talk quite a few first team players last season into cuts didn't they?
Sounds like they are doing it again here.
Barcelona is such a weird club. I hope after FDJ we don't deal with them.
Economic levers and TV rights the feck kinda bs is this either sell or don't.
Weirdos
Economic levers and TV rights the feck kinda bs is this either sell or don't.
Weirdos
Have a beer mate sounds like you need one
Because he'll blame it on Javier Tebas (La Liga President) just like he did with Messi leaving.
Find me a quote with FDJ stating he unequivocally doesn't want to come to United.
the levers thing is BSing to their fans, not to usOn me 2nd, cheers!
Ok, but not sure many players take a wage cut in whilst they're in their prime though, so Barca fans must be a bit thick not to see through this if he does end up joining us.
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It’s a bluff. He’s dropped another club being interested at the same time as he’s mentioned De Jong’s not for sale. Trying to get that last little bit of money off us.
You just made that up in your own head, Koeman hadn’t claimed to have spoken to him at all. He simply referenced the interview whilst with Holland where he said he wanted to stay at Barca.
Yeah, if he wasn't for sale he'd have said that and stopped there.
I thought Virgil lives in Ole's houes.
It just says 'a house'. Just one he owns not necessarily the one he used to live in.
Barça fans have their heads completely in the sand regarding their financial situation. The daft cnuts believed Messi was responsible for like 80% of their revenue or some bollocks, just to make them feel better about his massive contract for a bloke who “loved” the club
He has said repeatedly he doesn't want to leave, that means not being at United... unless there's some other alternate I'm not aware of.
How many times does a person have to say it to make some of you lot realize he's quite happy where he is?
That was a classicBarça fans have their heads completely in the sand regarding their financial situation. The daft cnuts believed Messi was responsible for like 80% of their revenue or some bollocks, just to make them feel better about his massive contract for a bloke who “loved” the club
Agreed. He'll sign in a few days.
This is how negotiations work, especially in the late stages. You want to get your side into the strongest position.
We'll still sign him.
How and why would Laporte save face?
Everyone knows we have been negotiating with Barcelona and that Barcelona have financial difficulties.
Therefore, why would he say that FDJ is not leaving in order to save face? The whole idea that "he has no choice but to say that FDJ is staying" make no sense.
There is something more to this news. FDJ doesn't want to come here and now with Ronaldo leaving, I'm sure he doesn't want to come here even more.
I don't even see why FDJ taking a slight paycut to stay at his dream club is unbelievable to some and when he really really doesn't want to come to United.
Everyone knows we have been negotiating with Barcelona and that Barcelona have financial difficulties.
Therefore, why would he say that FDJ is not leaving in order to save face? The whole idea that "he has no choice but to say that FDJ is staying" make no sense.
There is something more to this news. FDJ doesn't want to come here and now with Ronaldo leaving, I'm sure he doesn't want to come here even more.
I don't even see why FDJ taking a slight paycut to stay at his dream club is unbelievable to some and when he really really doesn't want to come to United.
You playing daft? Where does he say he spoke to him ? He even references that “a couple of days ago (the Netherlands interview), he said he wants to stay”.
Koeman hasn’t fecking spoken to him, nor is he claiming to.
Going on like they'd never sell a shirt to a tourist againThat was a classic
To be fair it does seem like he's talking about the other interview there. At no point does he say "I spoke to him"
So he’s not signing? What the feck
He's still signing.
He is, it's all good
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