If he really wants the move without offending anyone, it's much easier now after Barca agreed a fee and leaked that they wanted him gone. He could say that he wanted to stay but if it's not possible he understands that it's a business and he would like to settle everything with Barca before he make his decision.
We already have its Tielemans. Good luck with that
I agree it's a mess created by Barcelona but I don't see how it's not a sensible move for Ali and Frenkie to go public with this and wage their own campaign against Barca especially if their relationship is already broken and they want nothing to do with the club. They can state their he is not moving anywhere until he is paid through their friends in the media without ever being on quote and at the same time dragging Barca in the mud publicly which Barca would not want.
That’s only true if legally he deferred wages - something that has been questioned. Apparently he signed a new contract that backloaded his wages NOT deferred them. So legally he isn’t owed anything.
I think that's a stupid idea to be honest.
Yeah exactly this, frankly his agents were idiots. This is why players supposedly use agents in the first place, to sort out problems from tricky bastards like Barcas lawyers. Barca must have walked out of that meeting laughing.
In this case, his agent can just say that his client will see out his contract at his dream club unless they’re willing to pay the full amount.
That's mostly correct, yeah. The guaranteed amount was never in hard agreement (Romano reported it as an agreement but never made it seem like that would remain to be the case). The add-ons were always in contention; even that total amount wasn't necessarily agreed to.I remember that they were all practically in agreement that the overall fee was agreed at €85m, but many including Romano I believe, said the fixed aspect was agreed also at €65m. They were saying the the structure of the €20m add ons was still to be agreed.
Perhaps I'm remembering wrong. There's no way I'm trawling back through the thread to find out anyway
I would say the agent has already gone public via the United press pack.
So what you are saying is that if you have any problems with de Jong, call Arnold to get it murTough again.
True that but then if his client actually wants to leave Barcelona, it wouldn't be the most effective strategy.
Thats what I said. And that’s why you’re seeing reports from his end (which I believe is Romano’s source) that he wants to stay at Barca.
tbf. Fergie tried to get Carlton Palmer to United.
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Except it seems legally they dont owe him the money, so buying new players is not an issue. He accepted a new deal with back loaded payments. That's on him and his agents, if Barca have written a water tight legal contract then yeah he should fire his agent.
Well I don't think so, dragging Barca name in public to get paid helps them a lot, if they have decided to move. The I am staying until you pay me threat would still be there with the added pressure on Barca being called out publicly.
De Jong has all the power and if he insists on not signing anything they won't even be able to register already completed signings. In what world is that smart business from them?
You forgot to add Di Maria somewhere in there
Yes because our other choices are either worse, cost way more money, both or we stick with mcFred. Frankly getting Tielemans and Sangare is a much worse proposition, and lets be honest chances we get two is zero, so we swap fdj for Tielemans.... that that means a midfield of Fred and Tielemans, we will get murdered week in week out...
Why would a football agent burn his bridges with a major club like Barcelona? Frenkie may leave and never go back to Barca but the agent may have other players to sell to Barca. Easier for Frenkie to be the aggressor here.
Nah that feels more like it's coming from United. If the agent actually decides to go public the noise would be far more than just United journos.
In a lot of ways this has very little to do with United.
To be fair to Di Maria, yes he wanted to stay in Madrid and probably go PSG but those first couple of months he was great. His attitude changed when his house got burgled and Van Gaal was taking digs at him any chance he could get.
Smart business to try to sell him. The first contract they gave him was still idiotic and part of the reason why they’re in the mess they are - and make no bones they ARE in a mess.
Him going public isn't going to solve anything. The best thing they could do is hold tight for as long as possible, which will cause Barcelona problems due to them not being able to register their new recruits.
I don’t think we disagree.
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Why should Barca try to screw the football agent and his client in the first place.
He might be a bit of a meme for his negativity - whose timing usually signals a deal being complete, but for me this is also a rational viewpoint. Agreeing a fee was never really the problem right, its usually the opposite for us but he still actually has to sign a contract and accept the reality of leaving his dream club when he currently doesn't have to do either. Guess we are lucky they are currently treating him so bad, will ultimately come down to how much he wants to reunite with ETH.
But there are also quite a few clubs/managers that refused to work with him ever again. Pep, Barca, RM and Fergie.
