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could be a smokescreen for Sancho, letting Dortmund know we have other irons in the fire if they continue to play hardball over the transfer fee.It doesn't fit in with the culture of new player Ole is targetting, plus even if Bale's wages are subsidized partly by Real, his presence on 600k per week could cause issues in the moral esp if he got injured or wasn't playing well.
So who thinks that BVB will fall for this, if it's a smokescreen and decoy to encourage them to blink first?
 

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Its been well documented that alot of Manchester United operating manual was in "SAF's head"; a system he developed and refined over 20+ years. Once he left, alot of it left with him, so it doesn't work without him at its centre.

To be fair, Woodward has done an excellent job of creating a real life youth scouting structure, which is really starting to pay dividends, especially now he has a pro youth coach in OGS.

Buying established players seems to be a much more specialised brief: we look for youngish players with already high technical ability who want to play for the club. That wont generate such a massive shortlist.
All depends on one man... the downside of this is so obvious, but yes Woodward is very keen lately on unfreezing funds for quite promising ones, Mejbri and Stevanović cost the club close to 25 millions, it's still serious sum for early footballers even today.

We just need that one smart signing for RW and what's funnier SAF years ago was prepared for that eventuality by trying Zaha as long term project. Who knows what the player would be today with the one man institution still in charge.
 

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How many of the people here who want him are Welsh :D
Must be some.
Even half his wages would be 15 mil / per annum and considering his injury record he will be costing us 500.000 per game even if he somehow manages to play (only) 30 games. And this is not even taking into account a lack of professionalism and being out of form.
We wouldn't pay per annum. We'd pay until June.

Like someone else said, this move makes zero financial sense to him. He'll be voluntary doing more work for the same money. If he truly wants to come, then that kills the poor motivation/professionalism theory.
 

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Dont think we lose much here, 15M a year, get him and see how he does. if he plays well we can extend the loan deal for another year.
 

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Iam so glad that you are from the future to let us know that United signed him, they decided to pay his full salary and then he got injuried and there's no break in the contract. What about his personality as well? there seem to be a hell of alot of people that know him personally on here apparently...
I am so glad you are from the future who already saw Utd sign him and then he was injury free all season and won us a few cups.

Jokes aside, everyone here is framing an opinion based on media reports, watching him play, watching him sit on stands, personal bias etc.
No one knows the FACTS.
Someone saying "This is going to be very productive loan deal" cannot claim the moral points over someone who claims "This is going to be a disaster"
Everyone is just speculating.
 

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This one is for you @Santoryo

Don't know who this guy is and can't tell whether he's credible or not but if this is true than praise the Lord and all things good in this world.



:lol: :lol: :lol:

Good, now off to the Brooks thread
I can finally start spending the rest of my day in peace without feeling restless and in despair :angel:
 

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Rio's £30m and Carrick's £18m were massive amounts of £ in those days and raised many eye brows. Also, many were totally underwhelmed with Carrick as a signing.
My point was that we were able to get good players from mid table clubs and that seems impossible these days. For example, James Maddison and Grealish signing five year deals...
 

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His pinned tweet is a video interview he did with Bale’s agent so I think we know who “the source close to Bale” is.
I figured it was his agent just from the tone of it. Didn't he say more or less exactly the same thing a year ago?
 

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Another one bites unsurprisingly the dust. This is the summer 2013 all over again.
I might not come to pass, but if Naveen Ullal, whoever he is, said Bale was definitely joining, would you be think it's 100% on?
 

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My point was that we were able to get good players from mid table clubs and that seems impossible these days. For example, James Maddison and Grealish signing five year deals...
We signed Maguire and Wan Bissaka a year ago.
 

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I might not come to pass, but if Naveen Ullal, whoever he is, said Bale was definitely joining, would you be think it's 100% on?
He recently interviewed Bale's agent so I'd say yes.
This was never on anyway. That cnut refused us many times in the past as well.
 

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We wouldn't pay per annum. We'd pay until June.

Like someone else said, this move makes zero financial sense to him. He'll be voluntary doing more work for the same money. If he truly wants to come, then that kills the poor motivation/professionalism theory.
:lol: Bless him!

He will still get paid his full wages plus would actually be playing football when fit to keep himself in form for the Euros. That will probably be his motivation for any loan deal.

Zidane after all is not giving him that luxury after he has behaved the way he did.
People can blame RM all they want and yes they denied him his transfer last minute, but a contract is a contract and he is still contracted to RM.
Compare Bale’s behaviour to someone like Becks who after RM announced he would never play for them again forced them to change their decision just by being professional and working hard.
 

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I'm utterly mad probably, but why am I still excited at the thought of Bale playing for United? It's got Sanchez mkII written all over it, but I keep thinking back to that goal against the vermin in the CL final :drool:
 

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Bale potentially re-joining Spurs.

Bale - Kane - Son as a front 3 sounds very good.
 

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People talking like Bale is no longer good enough to play for Real Madrid. That's just not the case and not the reason they want him gone. They gave him a weekly wage they should have never agreed to and have probably regretted it ever since.

Madrid have some really bang average forwards in their squad. Bale is nowhere near the worst of them even now at 31.
 

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People talking like Bale is no longer good enough to play for Real Madrid. That's just not the case and not the reason they want him gone. They gave him a weekly wage they should have never agreed to and have probably regretted it ever since.

Madrid have some really bang average forwards in their squad. Bale is nowhere near the worst of them even now at 31.
That's a damning indictment on him then if he can't buy a game in that squad and has fallen out completely with a manager not known for falling out with players in spite of being one of the team presidents favorites wouldn't you think?
 

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Well, let's say Bale comes in and takes Greenwood's place, Greenwood could end up like Angel Gomes asking to leave. Every situation has a risk vs reward thing. But on the reward side, competition could actually be good for Greenwood.

Actually William would have made much more sense for us than Bale because William has been playing regularly, but well, there's not much time to go until the window closes, so Ed better sign someone quick!

But yeah, sometimes I get lost on expecting youth players to be developed and getting us back to ''The United way''... maybe we have to accept that the game has changed and it's not like it used to be under Fergie when we could get a Carrick from Tottenham and a Ferdinand from Leeds every once in a while for a good price...
That scenario is more about managing youth player contracts to be honest, we should never be in a situation where a junior player we rate highly has that kind of bargaining power. I think it's fair to say as well that whilst Ole wanted to keep Gomes, he's hardly seen in the same bracket as Greenwood. Greenwood is under contract until 2024 ( i think) if you include the +1 option) so we are well positioned with him - I'd also say no fan would think Greenwood is our long term solution to RW hence the need for someone like Sancho (or a good stop gap) because the gap between us and Liverpool needs to be addressed.
 

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Not sure of his level at the moment but I rather take him on a one/two year loan on 250-280k wages than pay exorbitant money for Sancho. Believe he will end up at Tottenham though as that is a more Mourinho type signing.
 

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I expect the most realistic destination is Spurs. Woodward and the club might be slow in learning from their mistakes but they eventually do. There's a reason why they didn't let Mourinho do what he wanted in his 3rd season and sell Martial for example.
 

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That's a damning indictment on him then if he can't buy a game in that squad and has fallen out completely with a manager not known for falling out with players in spite of being one of the team presidents favorites wouldn't you think?
Face clearly doesn't fit. Wages, injury concerns and apparently his Spanish is still quite poor for somebody who has been there 6 years.

He can still do a job as a temporary fix for us. Even if he's only fit for 30-35 games next season that gives Greenwood or Rashford some rest.
 

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I personally think Spurs are the only ones interested. We just shifted a massive chunk of wage off the books with Sanchez. Even if it was for just a year, why would we just put it straight back on there with Bale?
 

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That's a damning indictment on him then if he can't buy a game in that squad and has fallen out completely with a manager not known for falling out with players in spite of being one of the team presidents favorites wouldn't you think?
The manager had it in for him from day one though. He was forced to play him by the president who believed in bale
 

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When did Bale sign this huge contract he currently has with Madrid? How much was he on with the original/first contract when he first moved in 2013?
 

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I personally think Spurs are the only ones interested. We just shifted a massive chunk of wage off the books with Sanchez. Even if it was for just a year, why would we just put it straight back on there with Bale?
Yeah, Bale doesn't fit the profile of signing Ole likes. Seems our name is put out there to put pressure on Spurs.
 

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Yeah, Bale doesn't fit the profile of signing Ole likes. Seems our name is put out there to put pressure on Spurs.
Does Ighalo fit the profile of signings then? For a stop gap solution, Bale on 1 year loan is a good option.
 

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Yeah, Bale doesn't fit the profile of signing Ole likes. Seems our name is put out there to put pressure on Spurs.
Conversely with the Reguilon transfer, it looks like Spurs are being used to get us to strike a deal.
 

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Bale potentially re-joining Spurs.

Bale - Kane - Son as a front 3 sounds very good.
Given the finanical situation under pandemic even Real Madrid can't afford Bale and James on the bench anymore, and that's why they let James left for free. If Spurs can get Bale with subsidized salary that would be a win win situation for all 3 parties. If I am Bale i will go to a club that want me more, so Spurs seems a better fit than Man Utd.
 

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Spurs seems likely to me even though it's Levy. They need some signings and a good alternative is paying Bale 7-10m for one year, Jose really wants him and he's an explayer of Spurs, London, easy to jet off to many a golf course.
 

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Does Ighalo fit the profile of signings then? For a stop gap solution, Bale on 1 year loan is a good option.
Difference is Ighalo was a boyhood United fan, dreamed of playing for us (genuinely wanted to be here) and is on nowhere near the wages Bale is on. Bale turned us down a number of times in the past and is on exorbitant wages. There'd be the sense with him that he never wanted to be here and the wages would end up pissing off a number of people in the dressing room a la Sanchez. Wouldn't say Ighalo and Bale are comparable at all.

Conversely with the Reguilon transfer, it looks like Spurs are being used to get us to strike a deal.
I agree.
 
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