Garnacho | Officially Chelsea's problem

just needs time to settle in a new league?
 
Yeah he did act like a brat but he had a right to be pissed after how he was dropped in the final. Amorim didn't cover himself in glory. He got the selection wrong and cost us a very important game.

If tomorrow Mainoo badmouths the manager, I won't be surprised.
Garnacho has never been a solution to anything. Not selecting him to start a final is hardly surprising. He had absolutely no right to get pissed and claim he was hard done by. You play for the team or you get out. If you’re not selected you look at yourself, you don’t blame the manager. Snowflake-ass player
 
Chelsea was a bad move for him. Considering the amount of attacking options they have.
 
Tbf they’ve only got 2 good wingers, he’ll get plenty of game time.

I'm sure he'll get games, I just don't see him doing well at Chelsea and cementing himself as first choice. I could be wrong of course.
 
Chelsea was a bad move for him. Considering the amount of attacking options they have.
They’ve 2 natural Left wingers - Gittens and Garnacho . Neto is better than both though and it’s not even his best position
 
My opinions around him changes drastically over the last 12 months, and was quire happy to see the back of him. I genuinely, w/o any malice, do not think he will ever make it as an elite footballer or even a decent-ish level PL player - think McNeill - simply because of his attitude and poor execution in the final third. We will look at back at the selling price with pride a few years down the line.
 
People keep telling themselves the guy has talent :lol:

Average at best.
Clearly he has talent. You don't play 150 games for Man Utd at age 21, scoring goals and assisting without talent. His talent in certain areas has been severely overestimated by some though. He is an average dribbler, a poor finisher and makes bad decisions. I don't think he has enough talent and a good enough attitude to become top class. Probably he can be a squad player in a top 4-8 side though.
 
Clearly he has talent. You don't play 150 games for Man Utd at age 21, scoring goals and assisting without talent. His talent in certain areas has been severely overestimated by some though. He is an average dribbler, a poor finisher and makes bad decisions. I don't think he has enough talent and a good enough attitude to become top class. Probably he can be a squad player in a top 4-8 side though.

Thing is players like Garnacho get to play so many games and forget to stay humble and let the noise around them distract. If he just decided to focus on his football and not external noise, he can be coached into a very good player.

Unfortunately, he hasn't has developed a massive ego which could cost him. The issue is, at this age, he wont accept being a squad player, so I can see him in Italy or something in a few years time.
 
He'll probably end up doing the rounds at a host of clubs. He'll move, new club will realise he's not that good and drop him to the bench, he will kick up about not playing. They'll move him on and process will start all over again.
 
He has talent for sure but his attitude and environment stinks. Shows that they advised on a move to Chelsea
 
Could someone fill me in on what he did that I missed to deserve this vitriol? He clearly has attitude issues and a big ego, he is very immature, but I don't remember him slandering the club or the fans? And it's not like he was wanted here, he was pushed out, so he left.
 
Could someone fill me in on what he did that I missed to deserve this vitriol? He clearly has attitude issues and a big ego, he is very immature, but I don't remember him slandering the club or the fans? And it's not like he was wanted here, he was pushed out, so he left.

Wearing a Villa shirt whilst being a United player is a big no no.
Liking tweets or social media post criticising the manager, this happened to ETH aswell.
Brother chirping in, not his fault but the extra family baggage.

It’s clear the manager doesn’t rate him, he was right. Our new signings are clear levels above him in all aspects. You could argue Garnacho could bloom late but he wasn’t happy with being on the bench. Garnacho is a good talent, nothing exceptional.

Also to add, he does inject energy and pace into the team but even then you know it’s never going in. Has many shots but never actually scoring.
 
Wearing a Villa shirt whilst being a United player is a big no no.
Liking tweets or social media post criticising the manager, this happened to ETH aswell.
Brother chirping in, not his fault but the extra family baggage.

It’s clear the manager doesn’t rate him, he was right. Our new signings are clear levels above him in all aspects. You could argue Garnacho could bloom late but he wasn’t happy with being on the bench. Garnacho is a good talent, nothing exceptional.

Also to add, he does inject energy and pace into the team but even then you know it’s never going in. Has many shots but never actually scoring.
Giving the middle finger to fans during the post season tour.
 
I suppose he was bound struggle early on with no preseason at all. The last match he played before the transfer was back end of last season? Probably a bit harsh to expect him to hit the ground running in those circumstances.

Last night Gittens looked much more threatening than Garnacho, who huffed and puffed but honestly did nothing of note. But ultimately it does feel like, for now, Neto and Estevao are ahead of both of them in the pecking order.
 
People keep telling themselves the guy has talent :lol:

Average at best.
There’s no doubt he has talent. The problem is the people around him (his brother) and his own ego. He needs to be sat down , explained he’s not as good as he thinks he is and it’s up to him whether he wants to fix it or not.
 
I suppose he was bound struggle early on with no preseason at all. The last match he played before the transfer was back end of last season? Probably a bit harsh to expect him to hit the ground running in those circumstances.

Last night Gittens looked much more threatening than Garnacho, who huffed and puffed but honestly did nothing of note. But ultimately it does feel like, for now, Neto and Estevao are ahead of both of them in the pecking order.

Also Tyrique George?
 
Also Tyrique George?

At the moment, George is being used as our emergency CF. Don't think he's played more then a handful of minutes on the wing this season.
 
Wearing a Villa shirt whilst being a United player is a big no no.
Liking tweets or social media post criticising the manager, this happened to ETH aswell.
Brother chirping in, not his fault but the extra family baggage.

It’s clear the manager doesn’t rate him, he was right. Our new signings are clear levels above him in all aspects. You could argue Garnacho could bloom late but he wasn’t happy with being on the bench. Garnacho is a good talent, nothing exceptional.

Also to add, he does inject energy and pace into the team but even then you know it’s never going in. Has many shots but never actually scoring.
He was an exceptional talent, there's no denying that. It had been clear since his FA Youth Cup days... but all the signs show that he won't ever realise that potential. He's spiralled into the position he is at now, and it remains to be seen how his career will go now. Many think down the drain.
 
Clearly he has talent. You don't play 150 games for Man Utd at age 21, scoring goals and assisting without talent. His talent in certain areas has been severely overestimated by some though. He is an average dribbler, a poor finisher and makes bad decisions. I don't think he has enough talent and a good enough attitude to become top class. Probably he can be a squad player in a top 4-8 side though.
Same level as Adnan. People overhype them because they were the shining lights of a shit season.
 
Same level as Adnan. People overhype them because they were the shining lights of a shit season.
Yeah, it's a decent comparison. I think Januzaj had more technical talent than Garnacho, but Garnacho stuck around longer through a fairly good work ethic, when he was on the pitch. I will criticize Garnacho for a lot, but he always seemed fit and ran a lot throughout the games.