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Gary Lineker’s constant ‘heart failure’ jokes to Glenn Hoddle...
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As long as jokes are inclusive, I don't really see the problem. The years of joking about Shearer not winning the FA Cup were great - I think he just likes to have a running joke.
@Eyepopper is bald
Christ, what a salty little bitch.
Leave MOTD alone you blasphemous bunch!
Linekers ˝jokes˝ will age well if he die of heart attack before Hoddle.
I understand your point and I didn't really take into account the scope of the audience the joke might hit.
Close the thread.
Missing the point completely. If Lineker and Hoddle was having a private conversation then all they would have to consider are each other. If their conversation is on a program such as MOTD then it's completely different. If I was on a TV show supposed to be about football, and was mocking someones appearance, race, sexuality or anything else, it's not 'ok' if the person I am joking about is fine with it. Can he mock Ian Wright for being black on MOTD if he is fine with it? Of course not. Having said that, I don't think this is that big of a deal and I don't think we should we get all our pitchforks out, but I've heard these jokes quite a few times on match of the day now, and I don't think it has any place on that program.
For me it is all about the intended target of a joke.... If Lineker is targeting anyone who has had heart problems with his joke then of course, that is bang out of order. However, if, more likely he is targeting Hoddle to be the 'punch line' of his joke then that is completely fine and if anybody takes offense to this then you really are a misery.
Apparently our parents / grandparents fought for freedom of speech, i am not sure they would have bothered if they could see what people are taking offense over in todays world.
''I put my life on the line for you to moan about a harmless little joke, grow the fukc up'' would be my train of thought.
Apparently our parents / grandparents fought for freedom of speech, i am not sure they would have bothered if they could see what people are taking offense over in todays world.
''I put my life on the line for you to moan about a harmless little joke, grow the fukc up'' would be my train of thought.
He was.
Enlighten me...
When Lineker takes the piss out of Shearer for not winning the FA cup, is he taking the piss out of everyone who’s never won the FA cup?
There are very few things in this world more patronising and insufferable than taking offense ON BEHALF of other people.
Offense is taken not given. That is a direct quote from the ultra PC Ricky Gervais so if you are offended then you can feck off.
Look at the thread title...now tell me how taking the piss out Hoddle for having heart problems a) “Not targeting anyone who has had heart problem” (what I originally responded to that resulted in some idiotic emoji) and b) have anything to do with Shearer winning the FA Cup?
Flowsnakes
It offends my intelligence that people get bothered by this.
Take that!
Take that!
I'm offended he didnt refer to them both as "cnuts."
Gervais is far from ultra PC and the quote is an argument aimed at people that are.
I always thought the joke now on MOTD was when they rolled out lawro.
Completely hairless mate
Um...because it isn’t?
You think making a joke about Hoddle’s heart condition to his face isn’t targeting a joke at someone who’s had a heart problem?
Well yeah but we aren’t talking about other people.
“If Lineker is targeting anyone who has had heart problems with his joke then of course, that is bang out of order.”
anyone
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any person or people.
"there wasn't anyone there"
Can't we even joke anymore? Any joke is somehow deemed offensive nowadays. I fecking hate these leftist, liberal, PC snowflakes. They're the poison of today's society.
Is @izzydiggler on a wind up?
From another thread...
From another thread...
Sorry to be that guy, I'm just a bit confused is all.
About what? I'm not offended or wound up by the joke (although mocking someone publicly over a recent serious health issue is pretty crass). It was a response to the claim that Lineker hadn't mocked someone with a heart problem, which he clearly has.
Always knew Pep was a precious flowsnake.
Reading it back, I think I, and maybe others, thought you were suggesting that he was intentionally mocking everyone who'd had a heart attack, rather than just Hoddle.
Can you clarify? @rcoobc also asked about it.
Not sure why people would think I was suggesting everyone, when I replied to something saying anyone.
But for clarification's sake, I didn't mean everyone
Thanks. From my side, it was the way the thread was going which made me think that.Not sure why people would think I was suggesting everyone, when I replied to something saying anyone.
But for clarification's sake, I didn't mean everyone
I apologise for getting mixed up.
No apology necessary, let's just get on with the quiz.
I get offended by the term ' Gammon ' as it is obviously directed at Caucasians and is therefore racist.
So no problem, then, if I refer to black Africans as ' Smoked Irishmen ' which is actually what they were called in Liverpool during the 1950s.
Ah ffs, some of the snowflakes getting all offended in here!!!!! 
I had a massive heart attack last year just before the World Cup, and have heart failure. It's common for someone to make a comment like Linekar did and it's often in the form of a joke. As humans we often mask our biggest fears with humour...I very much doubt Linekar was trying to be offensive, or making fun, or light of things. He was just saying....exciting sh1t does cause heart attacks if someone already has problems....and for those who have been offended by his words really need to take a long hard look at themselves and kop on!
In fact, I was released from hospital the day the World Cup started with the strict instructions to take it easy and not get excited...."But England's playing in the World Cup Doc!" I said....He scribbled out a prescription for a bottle of Xanax and told me to take a couple about an hour before the game starts! I could barely muster up a cheer everytime we scored! Was kinda like a very polite old timely..."Well done chaps" Normally I'd be bouncing round the place! Xanax work!
Snowflakes should try a few next time they get offended!
I had a massive heart attack last year just before the World Cup, and have heart failure. It's common for someone to make a comment like Linekar did and it's often in the form of a joke. As humans we often mask our biggest fears with humour...I very much doubt Linekar was trying to be offensive, or making fun, or light of things. He was just saying....exciting sh1t does cause heart attacks if someone already has problems....and for those who have been offended by his words really need to take a long hard look at themselves and kop on!
In fact, I was released from hospital the day the World Cup started with the strict instructions to take it easy and not get excited...."But England's playing in the World Cup Doc!" I said....He scribbled out a prescription for a bottle of Xanax and told me to take a couple about an hour before the game starts!
I could barely muster up a cheer everytime we scored! Was kinda like a very polite old timely..."Well done chaps" Normally I'd be bouncing round the place! Xanax work!Snowflakes should try a few next time they get offended!