charlenefan
Far less insightful than the other Charley
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Adam McKola of Full Time DevilsThis United supporter whining to Gary sounds like most of the people on this website, while Neville sounds more like me
Glad you could join us for this.This United supporter whining to Gary sounds like most of the people on this website, while Neville sounds more like me
Me too...I just hope all the doom and gloom patrol get a good look at how bad they soundGlad you could join us for this.
You can get all the action in the first 5-8 minutes. I thought I couldn't be arsed to watch either then I skimmed the video and got hooked when I saw it was Gary and a fan arguing the exact topics we argue here everyday with the exact exchanges we give each other. Worth watching.For those of us too lazy to watch what are the key takeaways to moan about?
- I also disagree with his lack of urgency but I think he's only taking this view because the club is taking an approach that agrees with him (young, British and as he says, likeable) hence why he has more patienceGary excusing the mismanagement of the club as a natural cycle
well done McKola for pressing him
Disrespectful from Neville in some ways. Fair enough on the fact that the Glazers dont care about protests but he could have shown some empathy with United fans complaints
Neville seems to be pedalling a myth that United fans are upset that we arent buying 100m world beaters when that's a distortion of the 5 key questions
Is it just me or is the sound badly out of synch? I think they even had issues with audio during the Liverpool v Norwich match.
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Not quite, I think Bruno Fernandes wins that one...Neville nailed it on Herrera. Decent enough player but no better than a lot of central midfielders out there. Genuinely think he has been the most over-rated player on this website that I have ever come across.
I wonder what the reaction would have been if we'd bought a 'Herrera replacement' rather than Maguire.Neville nailed it on Herrera. Decent enough player but no better than a lot of central midfielders out there. Genuinely think he has been the most over-rated player on this website that I have ever come across.
You mean FullTimeDevils, right?Gary was great there. When I've watched reddevilsunited, Mckola always seemed a more reasonable one of the bunch but here he sounded more like the moaning bunch of the caf. Its almost like he decided not to listen to Gary's points and just argue, sort of what you see here.
Possibly, certainly in terms of those that played for the club though.Not quite, I think Bruno Fernandes wins that one...
oh yeah, fulltimedevils! thought reddevilsunited sounded wrong.You mean FullTimeDevils, right?
I totally share your opinion, he seems the most reasonable on there. He's also infinitely better than Howson... I cannot stand that guy and shut it off every time I see his head or hear the droll of his voice.
We should of got both, i think was the point. Absolutely zero reason not to buy at least 1 midfielder, we saw plenty of good ones from Europe exchange hands, but it seems because they weren't English enough we weren't interested, which quite frankly, is a ridiculous stance to take.I wonder what the reaction would have been if we'd bought a 'Herrera replacement' rather than Maguire.
I think this is a really honest and niece little piece of debate. Very unfamiliar to the usual setting.
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I also agree with wat GNev was saying - I like the fact that there now seems to be some structure to our transfer business (though we still need to sharpen up our act, which may be difficult while it's down to Ed to push things along). I'm not sure what Mckola actually thought we should have been doing instead, apart from going down the path of recruiting panic replacements for the people who had left.Gary was great there. When I've watched reddevilsunited, Mckola always seemed a more reasonable one of the bunch but here he sounded more like the moaning bunch of the caf. Its almost like he decided not to listen to Gary's points and just argue, sort of what you see here.
That's actually what people wanted to happen when they wanted us to bring in a DOF. If Ole has managed to unite the board and club with his vision then it can only be a good thing. It seems there may be some structure in the works. About the owners, I honestly don't care that much about them. We have a lot of money and are spending it. They are just clueless and need guidance, hopefully they'll have that and make good use of it. I would much rather Ed bring the big guns out for a perfect player like Sancho, while "supervised" by the club than him on his own struggle to sign random names on a list only to overpay for some big name player he heard was good in the last minute.That's still somewhat frustrating as a fan, but I think for once there's actually a plan and vision that the club feels committed to beyond "back the manager, give him loads of money, hope he picks the right players, and if he fails sack him".
Maybe operate on a plan that should have been formulated months before the window even opened? Lukaku and Herrera were obviously leaving before last season finished, Solskjaer said they'd be replaced with players coming in....maybe it might have been prudent to work on getting the right players with the time available. Panic replacements didn't have to be made.I also agree with wat GNev was saying - I like the fact that there now seems to be some structure to our transfer business (though we still need to sharpen up our act, which may be difficult while it's down to Ed to push things along). I'm not sure what Mckola actually thought we should have been doing instead, apart from going down the path of recruiting panic replacements for the people who had left.
The point about success going in cycles was reasonable as well - how boring would football become if that wasn't the case - but I do wonder whether money has changed the game in ways that make it harder for clubs to catch up if they fall behind.
It’s so true and easy to see this is the case.Neville's mate is in charge and he's a nationalist, so he's always going to defend the farcical transfer window we had, then when it goes wrong it'll be Pogba, Martial and Lindelof's fault.
I don't disagree, but I didn't hear Mckola making that point.Maybe operate on a plan that should have been formulated months before the window even opened? Lukaku and Herrera were obviously leaving before last season finished, Solskjaer said they'd be replaced with players coming in....maybe it might have been prudent to work on getting the right players with the time available. Panic replacements didn't have to be made.
Overrated or not he was our second best midfielder and arguably our most consistent and we will miss him, regardless of his standing amongst other midfielders in the game.Neville nailed it on Herrera. Decent enough player but no better than a lot of central midfielders out there. Genuinely think he has been the most over-rated player on this website that I have ever come across.
Herrera is a strange one to gauge. I could never quite figure out how good/bad he was for us. Fair play to him on his big contract at PSG though, he is certainly punching above his weight on that wage.Possibly, certainly in terms of those that played for the club though.